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What's your take on manspreading?

It's necessary due to the physiological nature of men, and should be incentivized.
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I don't think it should be incentivized, but it's definitely okay to leg spread, even on crowded places.
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Manspreading is objectively bad and men should mind their own space when sitting around women.
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Postby Kynor » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:56 am

Pacomia wrote:
Saint Arsenio wrote:Exactly. We do this because usually, we don't like to sit on our man parts. I'm sorry if this offends any Females, but you just can't understand "Man-spreading" unless you've had balls before.

A quick solution is castration!

Nobody’s mentioned that insane lady who went around pouring bleach on a train or bus or something on men that were manspreading’s penises.

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Postby Great Minarchistan » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:57 am

Katganistan wrote:On a crowded subway, I have seen three men sitting together take up approximately five seats.

You're entitled to one each, not two or more. I'm not saying your legs need be pressed tightly together but if your knees are in different zip codes, be courteous and bring them in to at least the width of your hips.
This has been addressed, btw.

Three men taking five seats is about reasonable for leg spreading, tbh. Unless if seats in the american subway are really that large
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Postby Saint Arsenio » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:57 am

Katganistan wrote:
Pacomia wrote:Now where does Katganistan take public transport?

Check the link in my post.

Look at all the hostility in the answers above. Goodness. Is there a reason for hurling accusations and victim blaming simply for making a statement that your knees should reside within the same zipcode?

Honestly, men didn't used to do this on subways.

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Not all men do this though. Sometimes, we just have to do it. We don't do it to be jerks, we do it to be comfortable.
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:58 am

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The South Falls wrote:Or her hair.


Or her opinion.

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Postby Saiwania » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:58 am

This wasn't an issue in the old days such as the 1940s and before. Either people weren't offended back then, or men had the sense to occupy only one seat.
We should be getting back to that.
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Postby Pacomia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:00 am

Saiwania wrote:This wasn't an issue in the old days such as the 1940s and before. Either people weren't offended back then, or men had the sense to occupy only one seat.
We should be getting back to that.

Maybe the seats were bigger?
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Postby Purgatio » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:00 am

Saiwania wrote:This wasn't an issue in the old days such as the 1940s and before. Either people weren't offended back then, or men had the sense to occupy only one seat.
We should be getting back to that.


It was definitely the latter, as the pictures posted by Katganistan show. Clearly its not an issue. Just sit in one seat and don't spill over into the personal space of your neighbours. It's that simple. 'Manspreading' is a very new phenomenon that some men (not all obviously, I don't) have started engaging in for who knows what reasons. We'd have to ask them I guess.
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Postby Kynor » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:00 am

Saiwania wrote:This wasn't an issue in the old days such as the 1940s and before. Either people weren't offended back then, or men had the sense to occupy only one seat.
We should be getting back to that.

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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:01 am

Katganistan wrote:On a crowded subway, I have seen three men sitting together take up approximately five seats.

You're entitled to one each, not two or more. I'm not saying your legs need be pressed tightly together but if your knees are in different zip codes, be courteous and bring them in to at least the width of your hips.
This has been addressed, btw.


How about we not overthink how people sit?

And yeah, some people are assholes and take up more seats than they should, you really think preaching about manspreading is going to make them not do that?
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Postby Purgatio » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:01 am

Kynor wrote:
Saiwania wrote:This wasn't an issue in the old days such as the 1940s and before. Either people weren't offended back then, or men had the sense to occupy only one seat.
We should be getting back to that.

I don't trust you to be in the 40's


What? Why not? What a random thing to say lol
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Postby Saint Arsenio » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:01 am

Saiwania wrote:This wasn't an issue in the old days such as the 1940s and before. Either people weren't offended back then, or men had the sense to occupy only one seat.
We should be getting back to that.

Look, our comfortableness matters too. You can't understand unless like I said, you've had balls before. Sometimes it's uncomfortable to sit with our legs together. Plus, if you just politely ask us to move, we'll most likely move over. Or, you could just maybe go to another seat??
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Postby Highever » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:01 am

Katganistan wrote:Check the link in my post.

Look at all the hostility in the answers above. Goodness. Is there a reason for hurling accusations and victim blaming simply for making a statement that your knees should reside within the same zipcode?

Honestly, men didn't used to do this on subways.

Its unduly hostile to ask in disbelief where exactly you take public transit where you made the claim that the go to interaction is assault and battery? And where exactly was anyone victim blaming for anything?

Oddly enough, the pictures you posted are still how most people sit, and if they do sit a little wider, they hardly take up the exaggerated amount of space that is often claimed.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:01 am

Saiwania wrote:This wasn't an issue in the old days such as the 1940s and before. Either people weren't offended back then, or men had the sense to occupy only one seat.
We should be getting back to that.


Most men who "manspread" don't take up more than one seat.
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Postby Katganistan » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:02 am

Saint Arsenio wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Check the link in my post.

Look at all the hostility in the answers above. Goodness. Is there a reason for hurling accusations and victim blaming simply for making a statement that your knees should reside within the same zipcode?

Honestly, men didn't used to do this on subways.

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Not all men do this though. Sometimes, we just have to do it. We don't do it to be jerks, we do it to be comfortable.

I never said all men do.
But I am subject to jeering and hostility for asking for a bit of courtesy.
Funny, yeah?

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:03 am

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Okay. You can sit on the roof of the train. Watch out for the low bridges.

Or introduce gender segregated seating or better yet non mixed public transit.

So you’ll just get the Parkus wagon attached to the back of the train. Don’t worry this way you won’t have to see anything offensive
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Postby Purgatio » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:03 am

Saint Arsenio wrote:
Saiwania wrote:This wasn't an issue in the old days such as the 1940s and before. Either people weren't offended back then, or men had the sense to occupy only one seat.
We should be getting back to that.

Look, our comfortableness matter too. You can't understand unless like I said, you've had balls before. Sometimes it's uncomfortable to sit with our legs together. Plus, if you just politely ask us to move, we'll most likely move over. Or, you could just maybe go to another seat??


What city do you live in where public transport is never crowded? You really think people will ask you to move over or close your legs so they can sit next to you if there are spare seats abounding everywhere? Seriously?
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Postby Kynor » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:03 am

Purgatio wrote:
Kynor wrote:I don't trust you to be in the 40's


What? Why not? What a random thing to say lol

He looks like those guys in brown shirts
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Postby Soviet Tankistan » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:03 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Katganistan wrote:On a crowded subway, I have seen three men sitting together take up approximately five seats.

You're entitled to one each, not two or more. I'm not saying your legs need be pressed tightly together but if your knees are in different zip codes, be courteous and bring them in to at least the width of your hips.
This has been addressed, btw.


How about we not overthink how people sit?

And yeah, some people are assholes and take up more seats than they should, you really think preaching about manspreading is going to make them not do that?

People found to be occupying multiple seats without a suitable excuse should be fined and lose their seat immediately.
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Postby Katganistan » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:03 am

Saiwania wrote:This wasn't an issue in the old days such as the 1940s and before. Either people weren't offended back then, or men had the sense to occupy only one seat.
We should be getting back to that.

You've hit it square on the head.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:04 am

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Women are considered impure in Islam so touching them, specially if they're on their period, is looked down upon.


Touching women nothing to do with purity most of the time, women also have to do ablution if they touch a man.

Man straight sex must be a nightmare. Good thing gays exist
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Postby Saint Arsenio » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:04 am

Katganistan wrote:
Saint Arsenio wrote:Not all men do this though. Sometimes, we just have to do it. We don't do it to be jerks, we do it to be comfortable.

I never said all men do.
But I am subject to jeering and hostility for asking for a bit of courtesy.
Funny, yeah?

Where is the hostility, hm? I'm not being hostile towards you, or anyone here, but if I came off that way, I do apologize.
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Postby Purgatio » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:04 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Katganistan wrote:On a crowded subway, I have seen three men sitting together take up approximately five seats.

You're entitled to one each, not two or more. I'm not saying your legs need be pressed tightly together but if your knees are in different zip codes, be courteous and bring them in to at least the width of your hips.
This has been addressed, btw.


How about we not overthink how people sit?

And yeah, some people are assholes and take up more seats than they should, you really think preaching about manspreading is going to make them not do that?


If people engage in selfish and entitled behaviour and lack social consciousness about how their behaviour affects others, you are entitled to complain and rant about it. The intention isn't to 'preach' and somehow encourage these people not to do it. If someone litters in public and someone online complains that people litter, that's all it is, complaining about antisocial and socially-selfish conduct.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:05 am

Katganistan wrote:I never said all men do.
But I am subject to jeering and hostility for asking for a bit of courtesy.
Funny, yeah?


Maybe because this is such a non-issue. And it's certainly not going to be changed by a bunch of harpies preaching about "manspreading" and making humiliating chairs specifically for men.
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Postby Purgatio » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:05 am

Kynor wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
What? Why not? What a random thing to say lol

He looks like those guys in brown shirts


On what basis? You can't just assume something so inflammatory about someone you know
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For a domestic Purgation 'propagandist' view of its role in the world, see: An Introduction to Purgatio.

And for a more 'objective' international perspective on Purgatio's history, culture, and politics, see: A Brief Overview of the History, Politics, and Culture of Le Royaume du Nettoyage de la Purgatio.

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