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Accept the rule of wizard overlords

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23%
No
3
10%
Return to the glory of the tribunal, make morrowind great again
13
43%
Accept The doom of Cthulhu
7
23%
 
Total votes : 30

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Anders Was Right
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Postby Anders Was Right » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:40 pm

Down with the Chantry! Down with the Circles! MAGE RIGHTS NOW!!!!

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Magocratic Aidonaia
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Postby Magocratic Aidonaia » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:07 pm

Anders Was Right wrote:Down with the Chantry! Down with the Circles! MAGE RIGHTS NOW!!!!

Yes, but we should excercise restraint and take precautions against evil.

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Katganistan
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Postby Katganistan » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:10 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:I mean magocracy would probably be a better system of government than secular liberalism or communism, but for now I think I would say I prefer Christian monarchy.

That all depends who's in charge of the magocracy. I'd trust Minerva McGonigle with my life. But DeathEaters?

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Postby Bombadil » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:17 pm

No, wizards oppressed that bastion of science, technology and progress that was Mordor to keep Middle Earth in the agricultural and feudal age and then rewrote history to make it about some 'magical' ring..

Down with all forms of magical theocracies, whether Christianity, Wizardry or any other form.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:26 pm

Eh, if we want a horribly dysfunctional bureaucracy with added magic, the Aes Sedai are the obvious choice.
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Postby Magocratic Aidonaia » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:34 pm

Bombadil wrote:No, wizards oppressed that bastion of science, technology and progress that was Mordor to keep Middle Earth in the agricultural and feudal age and then rewrote history to make it about some 'magical' ring..

Down with all forms of magical theocracies, whether Christianity, Wizardry or any other form.

Mordor has its own wizards, and there is no reason wizards have to be opposed to technology, O don’t know any wizards who are, most of them seem to want humanity to progress.

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Infected Mushroom
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:34 pm

Such as the one led by Witch Queen Annie Holstadt?

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Ithalian Empire
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:35 pm

Kyrusia wrote:The fact this poll lacks an option to "Return to the Glory of the Tribunal" perturbs me. Why settle for House Telvanni or the Psijics when you can have the living, incarnate gods of Almalexia, Sotha Sil, and the Warrior-Poet Vivec? The considerable lack of Buoyant Armigers in this thread is also notably concerning, in general.


I am a House Dres guy myself. But I guess the Tribunal is better than what those Sixth House Cultist do. Those guys creep me out.

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Postby Cedoria » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:41 pm

Kowani wrote:
Cedoria wrote:...
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NSG is weird.

You’ve been here at least 4 years, and you’re just figuring that out now?

Nah, just felt like an apt comment to make in the circumstances.

In all seriousness, down with the Chantry.
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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:42 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Such as the one led by Witch Queen Annie Holstadt?

Okay, so that's one point against the idea...

Katganistan wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:I mean magocracy would probably be a better system of government than secular liberalism or communism, but for now I think I would say I prefer Christian monarchy.

That all depends who's in charge of the magocracy. I'd trust Minerva McGonigle with my life. But DeathEaters?

Exactly. I have no problem with there being mage representation in government office, but it can't all doled out to anyone who can cast a levitation spell or whose parents get them into the wizarding equivalent of Eton. There's no telling what forces could be unleashed on the public.

However, more mages on democractic ballots would be fine.
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Infected Mushroom
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:42 pm

Yes I think in general its a good idea. Why not?

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Postby ECKU » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:43 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Yes I think in general its a good idea. Why not?

Please don't tell me you're taking this thread seriously.
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Postby Kaystein » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:47 pm

ECKU wrote:
Magocratic Aidonaia wrote:No? I’m the guy who made the Communism threads.

Oh, you were the dude that erroneously connected everything to communism


Kind of like how wizards are really just pseudo-communists. Beware the red menace

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Magocratic Aidonaia
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Postby Magocratic Aidonaia » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:48 pm

The Free Joy State wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Such as the one led by Witch Queen Annie Holstadt?

Okay, so that's one point against the idea...

The wizards council depends on the support of the people and would try to convince wizards to act with restraint, and to protect the citizenry. Right now, people have to rely on their own wits against black magic. A wizards council is a better alternative to returning to the inquisition.

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Postby Kowani » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:53 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Such as the one led by Witch Queen Annie Holstadt?

How to sink an idea in one sentence-Exhibit A.
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Postby Europa Undivided » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:54 pm

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Postby John Constantine » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:51 pm

There are some who say Jesus was a wizard.
Nouvelle-Floride wrote:Wizards don't actually exist. Nice try, though.

Speak for yourself, mate.
Magocratic Aidonaia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:No, wizards oppressed that bastion of science, technology and progress that was Mordor to keep Middle Earth in the agricultural and feudal age and then rewrote history to make it about some 'magical' ring..

Down with all forms of magical theocracies, whether Christianity, Wizardry or any other form.

Mordor has its own wizards, and there is no reason wizards have to be opposed to technology, O don’t know any wizards who are, most of them seem to want humanity to progress.

I believe it's a reference to a Russian LOTR fanfic. Pretty good, but it can't be published due to copyright laws.
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Postby ECKU » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:52 pm

Europa Undivided wrote:(Image)

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Postby Geneviev » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:02 pm

The only wizard better than Jesus is Severus Snape.
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Europa Undivided
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Postby Europa Undivided » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:09 am

Bombadil wrote:No, wizards oppressed that bastion of science, technology and progress that was Mordor to keep Middle Earth in the agricultural and feudal age and then rewrote history to make it about some 'magical' ring..

Down with all forms of magical theocracies, whether Christianity, Wizardry or any other form.

Eh heh... The Dwarves were quite technologically advanced for their part.
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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:50 am

Kyrusia wrote:The fact this poll lacks an option to "Return to the Glory of the Tribunal" perturbs me. Why settle for House Telvanni or the Psijics when you can have the living, incarnate gods of Almalexia, Sotha Sil, and the Warrior-Poet Vivec? The considerable lack of Buoyant Armigers in this thread is also notably concerning, in general.

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Postby Page » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:53 am

If we're going to have a government based on imaginary things, one dedicated to wizards doesn't seem any worse than any of the real world theocracies, I guess. Maybe I can become a wizard, I already have the long hair and beard for it.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:54 am

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Postby New Totzka » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:56 am

Nouvelle-Floride wrote:Wizards don't actually exist. Nice try, though.

Not with that attitude they don't.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:02 am

Kowani wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Such as the one led by Witch Queen Annie Holstadt?

How to sink an idea in one sentence-Exhibit A.


Well it was not my intention but

Ok I guess?

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