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What is your favoured form of brexit?

Mays deal
28
5%
EFTA
36
6%
Some other sort of deal (please elaborate in the comments)
24
4%
Mays deal without Irish backstop
9
2%
No deal
132
23%
No deal+ (no deal minus NI and Scotland)
20
4%
I want a second referendum
208
37%
Revoke article 50 without even calling a referendum
105
19%
 
Total votes : 562

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:51 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:The Dutch could probably make a profit from the UK crashing out, which might incentivise them to say no eventually.


Not my reasoning why we shouldn't delay indefinitely, but it doesn't hurt :blush:

My reasoning is just, I want to move on, this breakup has been messy for three years now.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:58 am

Novus America wrote:The EU will grant unlimited extensions to avoid a no deal Brexit.

I doubt that this farce can be brexlayed much further, but hey, as long as the Brits are forced to pay their dues, keep freedom of movement, adhere to EU regulations and are prevented from having a vote in the Commission, why not.
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Postby Novus America » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:02 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Novus America wrote:
The EU will grant unlimited extensions to avoid a no deal Brexit.


I sincerely hope they don't.


They will though.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:04 am

Novus America wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
I sincerely hope they don't.


They will though.
The EU is not capable of decisive high risk actions.


It seems the EU and the UK have much in common then.
The Blaatschapen should resign

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Postby Galloism » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:04 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:The Dutch could probably make a profit from the UK crashing out, which might incentivise them to say no eventually.


Not my reasoning why we shouldn't delay indefinitely, but it doesn't hurt :blush:

My reasoning is just, I want to move on, this breakup has been messy for three years now.

You thought divorce was a messy affair.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:09 am

Galloism wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Not my reasoning why we shouldn't delay indefinitely, but it doesn't hurt :blush:

My reasoning is just, I want to move on, this breakup has been messy for three years now.

You thought divorce was a messy affair.


We're fighting over custody of Northern Ireland, she's always been such a problem child.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:37 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Galloism wrote:You thought divorce was a messy affair.


We're fighting over custody of Northern Ireland, she's always been such a problem child.


We don't want her, but she's got multiple personality disorder and the angry, fundamentalist, shouty personality refuses to leave our house. :(

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Postby Hirota » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:40 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
We're fighting over custody of Northern Ireland, she's always been such a problem child.


We don't want her, but she's got multiple personality disorder and the angry, fundamentalist, shouty personality refuses to leave our house. :(
Maybe the fact NI isn't particularly wanted is why she's so angry.

Pappa UK and Momma Ireland should sit down with Baby NI and tell them that their divorce is nothing to do with them and we both love you very much.

In fact, maybe some sort of shared parenting arrangement will solve Brexit? NI is Irish for weekdays, British on Weekends and most holidays. ;)

As long as NI doesn't act out from what is a traumatic event for any kid and start punching other kids and turning into a reprobate.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:43 am

Hirota wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
We don't want her, but she's got multiple personality disorder and the angry, fundamentalist, shouty personality refuses to leave our house. :(
Maybe the fact NI isn't particularly wanted is why she's so angry.

Pappa UK and Momma Ireland should sit down with Baby NI and tell them that their divorce is nothing to do with them and we both love you very much.

In fact, maybe some sort of shared parenting arrangement will solve Brexit? NI is Irish for weekdays, British on Weekends and most holidays. ;)


But when Mum's new boyfriend Scotland enters the picture, what'll that mean when Dad triggers a new custody battle claiming that Scotland's a bad influence?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:51 am

Hirota wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
We don't want her, but she's got multiple personality disorder and the angry, fundamentalist, shouty personality refuses to leave our house. :(
Maybe the fact NI isn't particularly wanted is why she's so angry.

Pappa UK and Momma Ireland should sit down with Baby NI and tell them that their divorce is nothing to do with them and we both love you very much.

In fact, maybe some sort of shared parenting arrangement will solve Brexit? NI is Irish for weekdays, British on Weekends and most holidays. ;)

As long as NI doesn't act out from what is a traumatic event for any kid and start punching other kids and turning into a reprobate.

Fucking hell I think you've solved the border!
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Postby Hirota » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:52 am

Shrillland wrote:
Hirota wrote:Maybe the fact NI isn't particularly wanted is why she's so angry.

Pappa UK and Momma Ireland should sit down with Baby NI and tell them that their divorce is nothing to do with them and we both love you very much.

In fact, maybe some sort of shared parenting arrangement will solve Brexit? NI is Irish for weekdays, British on Weekends and most holidays. ;)


But when Mum's new boyfriend Scotland enters the picture, what'll that mean when Dad triggers a new custody battle claiming that Scotland's a bad influence?
Depends if it's Rab C. Nesbit Scotland or Sean Connery Scotland.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:52 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
We're fighting over custody of Northern Ireland, she's always been such a problem child.


We don't want her, but she's got multiple personality disorder and the angry, fundamentalist, shouty personality refuses to leave our house. :(

Do you think it's time we call in supernanny America to work her magic on NI like she did all over the world?
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:16 am

Greater Loegria wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:We could make a profit by getting rid of minimum wage laws and making economic generation mandatory, everyone who isn't generating income ends up working for very little in poor conditions. This way we can solve our issues with the shortage of people taking up unskilled labour, which could result in a higher standard of living for everybody else. We'd attract so much investment that we'd become the next super-rich nation!

This kind of industrial serfdom is what got us into this colossal mess on the first place.

Humans do not exist purely to generate ‘profit’. They have souls and those souls, whether or not their bodily vessels show it or not, have intrinsic value. There are several fundamental flaws in the imposition of such a system but were it to be implemented we could very well be a rich nation that is fine and dandy for suited investors but would be a thoroughly miserable experience for the poor, as indeed it already is. It’s not entirely achievable but manufactory ought to create a working environment of social responsibility towards its labourers in return for high quality output. Workers are not servile cogs.

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:21 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
We don't want her, but she's got multiple personality disorder and the angry, fundamentalist, shouty personality refuses to leave our house. :(

Do you think it's time we call in supernanny America to work her magic on NI like she did all over the world?


Ever heard of the Good Friday Agreement?
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Postby Novus America » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:22 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Novus America wrote:
They will though.
The EU is not capable of decisive high risk actions.


It seems the EU and the UK have much in common then.


Exactly. Which is why we should prepare for the Brexit the never ends...
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:29 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Do you think it's time we call in supernanny America to work her magic on NI like she did all over the world?


Ever heard of the Good Friday Agreement?

The GFA has far too much liberal, bleeding-heart nonsense about people having rights. That won't fly in post-Brexit Britain. It's time for a new Good Brexit Agreement, in which the parties agree that everything that goes wrong with Brexit is Ireland and the EU's fault. Those parties being the Tories, the DUP, and the tabloids.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:29 am

Novus America wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
It seems the EU and the UK have much in common then.


Exactly. Which is why we should prepare for the Brexit the never ends...


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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:36 am

Wake me up when Brexember ends.
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Postby Chan Island » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:39 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Wake me up when Brexember ends.


We all gathered here today to mourn Dumb Ideologies. A great poster. A shame he never woke up.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:49 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Wake me up when Brexember ends.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:51 am

Ifreann wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Wake me up when Brexember ends.

That is not dead which can extended be,
And never again awakened was Dumb Ideologie

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:05 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49646544

So, it’s official. Labours position if it wins a general election would be to negotiate a new deal, put it to a referendum...and then campaign to remain, against their deal...

And since this clearly suggests there would be three options, would Labour use a STV vote?
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Postby Heloin » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:08 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49646544

So, it’s official. Labours position if it wins a general election would be to negotiate a new deal, put it to a referendum...and then campaign to remain, against their deal...

Well, it's nice to know that they have a position finally, even if it's the weakest one possible.

And since this clearly suggests there would be three options, would Labour use a STV vote?

HAHAHAHAHA!

...

Who knows. Maybe Labour has come to there senses and is going to finally back a none shit voting method.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:16 am

Heloin wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49646544

So, it’s official. Labours position if it wins a general election would be to negotiate a new deal, put it to a referendum...and then campaign to remain, against their deal...

Well, it's nice to know that they have a position finally, even if it's the weakest one possible.

And since this clearly suggests there would be three options, would Labour use a STV vote?

HAHAHAHAHA!

...

Who knows. Maybe Labour has come to there senses and is going to finally back a none shit voting method.


Well, having three options for an issue where the last one was 52-48 would probably result in no option getting more then 30-40%. They’re also going to hope for a high voter turnout, because if it’s low the losing side will just claim that the previous referendum takes precedent or something.
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Postby Chestaan » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:20 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Only if the owner allows it. Not all owners allow short stay rentals.

Doesn't have to be the same flat.


Doesn't have to be the same country either.
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