So basically you want a comfortable aristocracy?
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by Chan Island » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:44 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Ostroeuropa » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:45 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:46 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:47 am
by Chan Island » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:47 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Souseiseki » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:47 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Souseiseki wrote:
you are not the top few percent
even if you're actually rich, which i will assume you are not, you are still not the top few percent
Mate 2/3rds of the country don't have more than 1000 pound in their bank. I'm in the top few percent because I saved up 5 grand.
It's just that the jump between top 10% and top 1% is fucking massive, and the jump between top 1 and top 0.1 is even more bigger by orders of magnitude.
by Ostroeuropa » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:48 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:49 am
by Shrillland » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:49 am
by Ostroeuropa » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:50 am
Souseiseki wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
Mate 2/3rds of the country don't have more than 1000 pound in their bank. I'm in the top few percent because I saved up 5 grand.
It's just that the jump between top 10% and top 1% is fucking massive, and the jump between top 1 and top 0.1 is even more bigger by orders of magnitude.
for reference i am interpreting top few percent as 1%-3%
by Chan Island » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:52 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Chan Island » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:53 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Souseiseki wrote:
for reference i am interpreting top few percent as 1%-3%
I think it's worth mentioning that even the peak of our society is fucked over because of just has comically lopsided our society is.
The top 1% have more in common with the bottom 1% than they d0 with the top 0.1
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:54 am
Chan Island wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
I think it's worth mentioning that even the peak of our society is fucked over because of just has comically lopsided our society is.
The top 1% have more in common with the bottom 1% than they d0 with the top 0.1
Isn't it literally like 2000 people who own like everything? It's absolutely insane how lopsided society has become.
by Hirota » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:54 am
Well, that might be excessive, but there is something about rich Belgian Princesses and other assorted posh types having to walk a mile in working class shoes that would give any person with just some socialist leanings a warm fuzzy feeling.Greed and Death wrote:Hirota wrote:I know right? As soon as the XR protester on top of the train starts kicking out then violence is inevitable.
But the idea of posh idiots with too much time on their hands targetting electic public transport for primarily working class commuters in Shadwell is stupid and self-defeating.
The XR protesters are going too far. I propose they be rounded up and imprisoned for 100 years on a reduced calorie diet in the coal region. Their diet may be increased and their sentenced reduced by mining coal.
by Dumb Ideologies » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:55 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:55 am
by Ostroeuropa » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:57 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:57 am
by Hirota » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:57 am
I own my own house, does that make me wealthier than most millionaires?
by Ostroeuropa » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:58 am
by Chan Island » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:58 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Ostroeuropa » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:59 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:00 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I would imagine the vast majority of them are people who just happen to have owned a house in London for a long while and it's risen in value. They might be property rich but not cash rich.
Exactly. So it's not evidence against mass robbery by the ruling classes taking the wealth produced by the rest of us and leaving us with basically nothing.
by The Blaatschapen » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:00 am
Chan Island wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
I think it's worth mentioning that even the peak of our society is fucked over because of just has comically lopsided our society is.
The top 1% have more in common with the bottom 1% than they d0 with the top 0.1
Isn't it literally like 2000 people who own like everything? It's absolutely insane how lopsided society has become.
by Ostroeuropa » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:01 am
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
Exactly. So it's not evidence against mass robbery by the ruling classes taking the wealth produced by the rest of us and leaving us with basically nothing.
I don't think people can really be blamed for investing in property. You buy a second house, rent it out, and it all starts from there. At some point you then quit your job and become a fulltime landlord, which my Dad pretty much does now.
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