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by The Free Joy State » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:57 pm
by Katganistan » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:07 pm
Juristonia wrote:Katganistan wrote:
It's down to training. Many people with toy or teacup dogs think they don't need to be trained or socialized, or that it's 'cute' when they growl or bark because they're tiny precious angels who can't do serious damage.
Yup
9 out of 10 times we get a wee lapdog at the shelter, it's because its owners treated it like a cute little prop, rather than an actual animal who does animal things, and then eventually, surprise surprise, the dog's behaviour goes south, and they don't want it anymore and it becomes our problem.
by The Rich Port » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:24 pm
by Juristonia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:19 pm
Katganistan wrote:Juristonia wrote:Yup
9 out of 10 times we get a wee lapdog at the shelter, it's because its owners treated it like a cute little prop, rather than an actual animal who does animal things, and then eventually, surprise surprise, the dog's behaviour goes south, and they don't want it anymore and it becomes our problem.
It's why I am waiting until I am retired to adopt a dog from a shelter -- so I have plenty of time to train and socialize it.
Ifreann wrote:Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.
by Giovenith » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:40 pm
by Neutraligon » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:38 pm
Giovenith wrote:From what I've read, it seems to be a self-perpetuating cycle. Pitbulls do seem to have a certain degree of genetic aggression, but that's because they're being brought up and bred specifically for that trait by assholes, and even then it's not so bad that most can't usually be trained out of it. The threat that pitbulls pose as opposed to any other dog is negligible, and if anything, banning them would make more aggressive as now the only people raising and breeding them would be the criminals making them aggressive in the first place with no counter by people raising loving and gentle ones.
On a related note, I do have a huge pet peeve for people who defend pitbulls — "It's not the breed, it's how you raise them!" — yet also shit on small dogs as irredeemably vicious. What happened to "it's how you raise them" then? I've met plenty of sweet, friendly small dogs. Yes, even Chihuahuas. I also used to stereotype them as "yappy" brats, but then once I adopted one and met other people with them, I realized I was just buying into a stupid mentality of hating on "cutesy" things because they're cutesy.
All dogs have unique challenges, but it's generally not a problem if you bother to get off your ass and teach them right.
by Giovenith » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:40 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Giovenith wrote:From what I've read, it seems to be a self-perpetuating cycle. Pitbulls do seem to have a certain degree of genetic aggression, but that's because they're being brought up and bred specifically for that trait by assholes, and even then it's not so bad that most can't usually be trained out of it. The threat that pitbulls pose as opposed to any other dog is negligible, and if anything, banning them would make more aggressive as now the only people raising and breeding them would be the criminals making them aggressive in the first place with no counter by people raising loving and gentle ones.
On a related note, I do have a huge pet peeve for people who defend pitbulls — "It's not the breed, it's how you raise them!" — yet also shit on small dogs as irredeemably vicious. What happened to "it's how you raise them" then? I've met plenty of sweet, friendly small dogs. Yes, even Chihuahuas. I also used to stereotype them as "yappy" brats, but then once I adopted one and met other people with them, I realized I was just buying into a stupid mentality of hating on "cutesy" things because they're cutesy.
All dogs have unique challenges, but it's generally not a problem if you bother to get off your ass and teach them right.
Most of the issues people have with small dogs is because owners do not properly train them due to them being cute/small.
by Katganistan » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:50 pm
Juristonia wrote:Katganistan wrote:It's why I am waiting until I am retired to adopt a dog from a shelter -- so I have plenty of time to train and socialize it.
I don't know what it's like over there, but over here, the socialising bit at least gets (to an extent) done before a animal's even allowed to be put up for adoption again.
by Katganistan » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:52 pm
Giovenith wrote:From what I've read, it seems to be a self-perpetuating cycle. Pitbulls do seem to have a certain degree of genetic aggression, but that's because they're being brought up and bred specifically for that trait by assholes, and even then it's not so bad that most can't usually be trained out of it. The threat that pitbulls pose as opposed to any other dog is negligible, and if anything, banning them would make more aggressive as now the only people raising and breeding them would be the criminals making them aggressive in the first place with no counter by people raising loving and gentle ones.
On a related note, I do have a huge pet peeve for people who defend pitbulls — "It's not the breed, it's how you raise them!" — yet also shit on small dogs as irredeemably vicious. What happened to "it's how you raise them" then? I've met plenty of sweet, friendly small dogs. Yes, even Chihuahuas. I also used to stereotype them as "yappy" brats, but then once I adopted one and met other people with them, I realized I was just buying into a stupid mentality of hating on "cutesy" things because they're cutesy.
All dogs have unique challenges, but it's generally not a problem if you bother to get off your ass and teach them right.
by The Free Joy State » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:54 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Giovenith wrote:From what I've read, it seems to be a self-perpetuating cycle. Pitbulls do seem to have a certain degree of genetic aggression, but that's because they're being brought up and bred specifically for that trait by assholes, and even then it's not so bad that most can't usually be trained out of it. The threat that pitbulls pose as opposed to any other dog is negligible, and if anything, banning them would make more aggressive as now the only people raising and breeding them would be the criminals making them aggressive in the first place with no counter by people raising loving and gentle ones.
On a related note, I do have a huge pet peeve for people who defend pitbulls — "It's not the breed, it's how you raise them!" — yet also shit on small dogs as irredeemably vicious. What happened to "it's how you raise them" then? I've met plenty of sweet, friendly small dogs. Yes, even Chihuahuas. I also used to stereotype them as "yappy" brats, but then once I adopted one and met other people with them, I realized I was just buying into a stupid mentality of hating on "cutesy" things because they're cutesy.
All dogs have unique challenges, but it's generally not a problem if you bother to get off your ass and teach them right.
Most of the issues people have with small dogs is because owners do not properly train them due to them being cute/small.
by Katganistan » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:55 pm
The Free Joy State wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Most of the issues people have with small dogs is because owners do not properly train them due to them being cute/small.
Not training them, and also -- in the case of some miniature breeds -- not allowing them to act like a dog (dressing them up and carrying them in a bag, rather than walking them and giving adequate mental stimulation). Bored dogs can become destructive.
by Juristonia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:58 pm
Katganistan wrote:Well, plenty of time to work on having good doggy manners, and to bond with it, then. And also to adequately meet its needs.
I don't think it fair to leave a dog at home for eight hours without walks and expect it to hold it that long.
Ifreann wrote:Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.
by Kowani » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:00 pm
Juristonia wrote:Katganistan wrote:Well, plenty of time to work on having good doggy manners, and to bond with it, then. And also to adequately meet its needs.
I don't think it fair to leave a dog at home for eight hours without walks and expect it to hold it that long.
That's the kind of responsible nonsense that would put us out of business if everyone did it.
by Katganistan » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:02 pm
Juristonia wrote:Katganistan wrote:Well, plenty of time to work on having good doggy manners, and to bond with it, then. And also to adequately meet its needs.
I don't think it fair to leave a dog at home for eight hours without walks and expect it to hold it that long.
That's the kind of responsible nonsense that would put us out of business if everyone did it.
(no, but really. Good)
by The Free Joy State » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:12 pm
Katganistan wrote:The Free Joy State wrote:Not training them, and also -- in the case of some miniature breeds -- not allowing them to act like a dog (dressing them up and carrying them in a bag, rather than walking them and giving adequate mental stimulation). Bored dogs can become destructive.
I feel bad for pocketbook pups.
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:34 am
Ifreann wrote:But you haven't demonstrated any need for these things. Clearly they should be banned as well. Is there even any need to have dogs at all? Or any kind of pet?
Ifreann wrote:Do we need the internet?
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Valentinaa » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:30 pm
by Fahran » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:48 am
Valentinaa wrote:we need to stop breeding them
there should be a control on the numbers of pitballs, being created. I think if there is a pregnant female pit ball they should be sprayed and neutered, and anyone being found breeding them should be charged.
Valentinaa wrote:i think there should be a pitball termination program to eliminate the species of dog, they are not pugs, they are not golden retrievers, they are a danger to the daily lives of other animals and humans aswell,
Valentinaa wrote:and if charges dont work and people keep having them i would say shoot them and have the government give you a reward for shooting them,
Valentinaa wrote:but of course these would only be used in cases where the spraying and criminalising didn't work to decrease the numbers of these aggressive beasts.
Valentinaa wrote:And i know I know these views are unpopular, but this is just how i would deal with these creatures.
by Ors Might » Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:15 am
Valentinaa wrote:we need to stop breeding them
there should be a control on the numbers of pitballs, being created. I think if there is a pregnant female pit ball they should be sprayed and neutered, and anyone being found breeding them should be charged.
i think there should be a pitball termination program to eliminate the species of dog, they are not pugs, they are not golden retrievers, they are a danger to the daily lives of other animals and humans aswell, and if charges dont work and people keep having them i would say shoot them and have the government give you a reward for shooting them, but of course these would only be used in cases where the spraying and criminalising didn't work to decrease the numbers of these aggressive beasts.
And i know I know these views are unpopular, but this is just how i would deal with these creatures.
by Mettaton-EX » Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:32 am
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