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Postby Ors Might » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:10 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:What a fucking sad viewpoint to hold.

Well thankfully you and your god dont get to dictate whats moral and what isnt.

Even if you don't believe in God, nature exists to enforce it. That's why STDs are so common among those who partake in immoral sexual practises.

The New California Republic wrote:You are talking nonsense. This is what you said:

And when asked for clarification on that, you said this:

So stop lying. The evidence of what you said is right there.

Well yeah and I'm correct in saying that. Two people of the same gender having sex with each other is harmful. That's an objective fact and a simple look at the sheer scale of mental health issues, drug abuse issues and disease issues that sexually active LGB people have justifies it.

Ifreann wrote:Do not turn this thread into a house of lies.

You very clearly think that gay sex is wrong and unnatural, and when asked to elaborate you referred to sodomy. There is such a thing as gay sex that is not anal sex.

Which are just as bad and also harmful.

Ors Might wrote:The Bible is not a great source of morality, nor is it one quite a few of us subscribe to. We don’t care what it says.

How is it not? It doesn't matter whether you subscribe to it or not, that doesn't stop it being objectively correct and doesn't stop people who ignore nature from facing repercussions.

Prove that it’s objectively correct.
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Postby Threlizdun » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:11 pm

Solarist VZ wrote:
Liriena wrote:"gay people bad" is not "basic morals"

"promiscuity bad" is a good moral.

Monogamous LGBTQ people exist.
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Postby Iciaros » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:11 pm

Solarist VZ wrote:
Liriena wrote:"gay people bad" is not "basic morals"

"promiscuity bad" is a good moral.


Great Kauthar wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:You are talking nonsense. This is what you said:

And when asked for clarification on that, you said this:

So stop lying. The evidence of what you said is right there.

Well yeah and I'm correct in saying that. Two people of the same gender having sex with each other is harmful. That's an objective fact and a simple look at the sheer scale of mental health issues, drug abuse issues and disease issues that sexually active LGB people have justifies it.


Y'all... y'all know that being LGB doesn't mean you're super promiscuous, right?
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Postby Ors Might » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:11 pm

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Ors Might wrote:Do children conceived via sperm donations have a right to know the provider?

I would say they do.

Why is that? What makes a blood connection so vital? I’m genuinely curious.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:11 pm

Solarist VZ wrote:
Liriena wrote:"gay people bad" is not "basic morals"

"promiscuity bad" is a good moral.

[citation needed]

And also, gay =/= promiscuous
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Postby Liriena » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:12 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Solarist VZ wrote:"promiscuity bad" is a good moral.

Monogamous LGBTQ people exist.

And sometimes it's not "promiscuity". Sometimes it's polyamory ;)
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Postby Great Kauthar » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:12 pm

Solarist VZ wrote:
Liriena wrote:"gay people bad" is not "basic morals"

"promiscuity bad" is a good moral.

And an objectively correct one.

Necroghastia wrote:Why?

The anus isn't made for stuff to be inserted into.

Necroghastia wrote:Which is totally why it can be observed amongst a large amount of the animal kingdom.

You're comparing gay people to animals? That's disgusting.

Necroghastia wrote:Better get off your computer/smartphone, then. That's super unnatural.

Technological progression is natural.

Necroghastia wrote:Nice job missing the point. Why is there a pleasure buzzer in the booty if it's unnatural?

Why do people who engage in sodomy keep getting STDs if its natural?

Necroghastia wrote:Source that the Bible is the objective truth of everything.

God.
Necroghastia wrote:Also is anal within the confines of marriage ok then? Oral? Anything other than missionary for the sole purpose of procreation?

No it isn't. I think this is like the 4th time I've said this but all forms of sex other than marital intercourse are immoral and harmful.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:13 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Scomagia wrote:I would say they do.

Why is that? What makes a blood connection so vital? I’m genuinely curious.


Medical history. Knowing who your genes came from helps a lot when doctors have to ask you questions.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:13 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Scomagia wrote:I would say they do.

Why is that? What makes a blood connection so vital? I’m genuinely curious.

Medical histories and genetics are important to know. Also, seeing the behavior of your parents, who you are definitely similar to in some ways, is important for understanding yourself.
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Postby Necroghastia » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:13 pm

Ouch, double post. Sorry.
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Postby Takiran » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:14 pm

I agree with the parents.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:14 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Which is totally why it can be observed amongst a large amount of the animal kingdom.

You're comparing gay people to animals? That's disgusting.

Strawman.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:14 pm

Liriena wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Monogamous LGBTQ people exist.

And sometimes it's not "promiscuity". Sometimes it's polyamory ;)

Polyamory rarely functions in the real world. If you want to do it, fine, but it's probably not going to make you very happy.
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Postby Necroghastia » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:15 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:Even if you don't believe in God, nature exists to enforce it. That's why STDs are so common among those who partake in immoral sexual practises.


Well yeah and I'm correct in saying that. Two people of the same gender having sex with each other is harmful. That's an objective fact and a simple look at the sheer scale of mental health issues, drug abuse issues and disease issues that sexually active LGB people have justifies it.

Totes jives with how lesbians have the lowest rates of STDs. And the mental health and drug abuse totally isn't due to people with views like yours holding positions of power and causing LGBT people no end of grief. Totally.

Which are just as bad and also harmful.


How is it harmful?

Ors Might wrote:The Bible is not a great source of morality, nor is it one quite a few of us subscribe to. We don’t care what it says.

How is it not? It doesn't matter whether you subscribe to it or not, that doesn't stop it being objectively correct and doesn't stop people who ignore nature from facing repercussions.


Source it being objectively correct. Where's the evidence for it?[/quote]
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Postby Ors Might » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:15 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Why is that? What makes a blood connection so vital? I’m genuinely curious.


Medical history. Knowing who your genes came from helps a lot when doctors have to ask you questions.


Scomagia wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Why is that? What makes a blood connection so vital? I’m genuinely curious.

Medical histories and genetics are important to know. Also, seeing the behavior of your parents, who you are definitely similar to in some ways, is important for understanding yourself.


Ah. Point taken.
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Postby EastKekistan » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:15 pm

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EastKekistan wrote:
What if Aists are extremely good at reproduction and usage of intimidation to keep people from leaving it?

That still wouldn’t work. Reproduction can only do so much if you’re a literal murder cult.

EastKekistan wrote:Tell that to most of the world.

Most of the world is foolish in that regard, yes.

Scomagia wrote:Parents absolutely have some limited rights to their children and, more importantly, children have rights to their parents.

I disagree. Children have a right to a proper, non-abusive upbringing. Legal guardians are granted powers to carry that out. The children can be removed from their custody if they fail in their responsibilities.

Aism IS a fucking murder cult, so what? Change your first name to Adam or Alice or we will behead you lmao.

When people no longer own children they cease to have children for children have become unprofitable.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:15 pm

Takiran wrote:I agree with the parents.


What about what the parents are saying do you agree with?

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Postby Great Kauthar » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:15 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:
You're comparing gay people to animals? That's disgusting.

Strawman.

It isn't. We are HUMAN beings. Homosexuals are not animals.
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Postby Ors Might » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:16 pm

EastKekistan wrote:
Ors Might wrote:That still wouldn’t work. Reproduction can only do so much if you’re a literal murder cult.


Most of the world is foolish in that regard, yes.


I disagree. Children have a right to a proper, non-abusive upbringing. Legal guardians are granted powers to carry that out. The children can be removed from their custody if they fail in their responsibilities.

When people no longer own children they cease to have children.

Mind elaborating? I’m still my parents child despite them not having legal custody over me anymore.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:16 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Strawman.

It isn't. We are HUMAN beings. Homosexuals are not animals.

He didnt compare homosexuals to animals, take your head out of your ass.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:17 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:
Solarist VZ wrote:"promiscuity bad" is a good moral.

And an objectively correct one.

Just because you use the word "objective" or "objectively" doesn't mean it's indisputable.

Great Kauthar wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Why?

The anus isn't made for stuff to be inserted into.

The anus isn't "made" for anything. It wasn't "designed" by an entity with any sort of intent. It's just something we evolved. Something that we learned to assign meaning and uses to. Some of us discovered that one of its uses was sexual pleasure and we've been having fun with it.

Great Kauthar wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Which is totally why it can be observed amongst a large amount of the animal kingdom.

You're comparing gay people to animals? That's disgusting.

In your attempt to snark at Necroghastia, you torpedoed your own appeal to nature. Impressive.

Great Kauthar wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Better get off your computer/smartphone, then. That's super unnatural.

Technological progression is natural.

But sexual progression is not.

What's the standard here?

Great Kauthar wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Nice job missing the point. Why is there a pleasure buzzer in the booty if it's unnatural?

Why do people who engage in sodomy keep getting STDs if its natural?

Why do people who breath keep getting the flu if it's natural?

Great Kauthar wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Source that the Bible is the objective truth of everything.

God.

Now you gotta prove his existence.
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Postby Ors Might » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:17 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Strawman.

It isn't. We are HUMAN beings. Homosexuals are not animals.

Human beings are animals though. Do you think we exist separately from nature? Oh god, are you one of those kinds of environmentalists?
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Postby Great Kauthar » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:17 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:It isn't. We are HUMAN beings. Homosexuals are not animals.

He didnt compare homosexuals to animals, take your head out of your ass.

He compared their behaviour to that of animals.
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Postby EastKekistan » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:18 pm

Ors Might wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:When people no longer own children they cease to have children.

Mind elaborating? I’m still my parents child despite them not having legal custody over me anymore.

Look at fertility rates in the West and NE Asia. People are selfish. Unless kids are free forced labor they are unprofitable to their parents and hence people don't want to have them.
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Postby EastKekistan » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:18 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:It isn't. We are HUMAN beings. Homosexuals are not animals.

Human beings are animals though. Do you think we exist separately from nature? Oh god, are you one of those kinds of environmentalists?

Humans are animals lol. Both libs and trads really hate this fact which doesn't make it less true.
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We are an alliance of rich, safe and clean nations. Rapid scientific development, space exploration, modern cities, skyscrapers and high-speed trains..you will enjoy ultra-modern life if you come and visit us.
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