Canadian Politics

[Order of Maesters]

The redistribution process is largely non-partisan.

My region (Lower Mainland BC) has been butchered but that’s predicated on challenging demographics and a poorly defined mandate from the commission, not partisan influence.

North Saskatchewan going liberal and Algoma going conservative was not something I expected, it otherwise hasn't changed much

I am surprised this is surprising - its just based on math.

In the case of Desnethe - Missinippi - Churchill River, the fact is much of the arable, rural land in the riding - traditional conservative heartlands where most of their vote in the riding is present - are being shifted elsewhere. The remainder is a fairly sparsely populated region that has a very large Indigenous population. This area broke for the Liberals fairly convincingly in 2021, as you can see in the polling precinct results. No guarantee they win it in 2025 due to changing vote patters but it does make things easier for them.

If things haven't changed much, how exactly would you claim it appeared gerrymandered per your first post?

North Saskatchewan going liberal and Algoma going conservative was not something I expected, it otherwise hasn't changed much

338 still shows Desnethé–Missinippi–Churchill River as being a safe Tory hold, with the NDP and Liberals both in a race for second. Then again, it doesn't seem like 338 has updated the constituency borders to reflect the changes made in the redistribution, given that Saskatoon-Grasswood is still a thing, and not Saskatoon South, so...

338's numbers won't be truly helpful until they update the map. Since the new boundaries will only come into force (i.e. apply in the next election) if the election is held after April 2024 (which is highly likely) than I suspect we can anticipate that they will shift the map shortly thereafter.

[ARIsyan-]

North Saskatchewan going liberal and Algoma going conservative was not something I expected, it otherwise hasn't changed much

I am surprised this is surprising - its just based on math.

In the case of Desnethe - Missinippi - Churchill River, the fact is much of the arable, rural land in the riding - traditional conservative heartlands where most of their vote in the riding is present - are being shifted elsewhere. The remainder is a fairly sparsely populated region that has a very large Indigenous population. This area broke for the Liberals fairly convincingly in 2021, as you can see in the polling precinct results. No guarantee they win it in 2025 due to changing vote patters but it does make things easier for them.

If things haven't changed much, how exactly would you claim it appeared gerrymandered per your first post?

338 still shows Desnethé–Missinippi–Churchill River as being a safe Tory hold, with the NDP and Liberals both in a race for second. Then again, it doesn't seem like 338 has updated the constituency borders to reflect the changes made in the redistribution, given that Saskatoon-Grasswood is still a thing, and not Saskatoon South, so...

338's numbers won't be truly helpful until they update the map. Since the new boundaries will only come into force (i.e. apply in the next election) if the election is held after April 2024 (which is highly likely) than I suspect we can anticipate that they will shift the map shortly thereafter.

I am actually curious as to where you can access the polling precinct results, a search didn't give me anything.

And I'm just saying more or less it seems to benefit the tories but not as much as some other proposed plans

[Greater Cesnica]

I am surprised this is surprising - its just based on math.

In the case of Desnethe - Missinippi - Churchill River, the fact is much of the arable, rural land in the riding - traditional conservative heartlands where most of their vote in the riding is present - are being shifted elsewhere. The remainder is a fairly sparsely populated region that has a very large Indigenous population. This area broke for the Liberals fairly convincingly in 2021, as you can see in the polling precinct results. No guarantee they win it in 2025 due to changing vote patters but it does make things easier for them.

If things haven't changed much, how exactly would you claim it appeared gerrymandered per your first post?



338's numbers won't be truly helpful until they update the map. Since the new boundaries will only come into force (i.e. apply in the next election) if the election is held after April 2024 (which is highly likely) than I suspect we can anticipate that they will shift the map shortly thereafter.

I am actually curious as to where you can access the polling precinct results, a search didn't give me anything.

And I'm just saying more or less it seems to benefit the tories but not as much as some other proposed plans

I even put the link in the OP

https://www.election-atlas.ca/fed/

[ARIsyan-]

I am actually curious as to where you can access the polling precinct results, a search didn't give me anything.

And I'm just saying more or less it seems to benefit the tories but not as much as some other proposed plans

I even put the link in the OP

https://www.election-atlas.ca/fed/

bro think's anyone actually reads the OP lmao/j

[Greater Cesnica]

I even put the link in the OP

https://www.election-atlas.ca/fed/

bro think's anyone actually reads the OP lmao/j

It's so over

[Order of Maesters]

Federal government's decision to invoke Emergencies Act against convoy protests was unreasonable, court rules

Interesting decision, at odds with the Inquiry, which is a legislative requirement under the Act.

We shall see how the appeal holds up.

[El Lazaro]

Dear Canadians, is this true? When is it taking effect? Would I have to learn normal French or the Quebeckean language in order to talk to people from Alberta?

[Soviet Haaregrad]

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Dear Canadians, is this true? When is it taking effect? Would I have to learn normal French or the Quebeckean language in order to talk to people from Alberta?

It's '70s era fear-mongering.

[El Lazaro]

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Dear Canadians, is this true? When is it taking effect? Would I have to learn normal French or the Quebeckean language in order to talk to people from Alberta?

It's '70s era fear-mongering.

Isn’t Trudeau your current president??? And don’t say it was referring to that Pierre guy, they are obviously political rivals and not the same person. Pierre Trudeau makes as much sense as Mitt Obama, whatever putting their names together is supposed to mean. To be fair, he did evoke the War Measures Act when Pierre was kidnapped by the FLQ in the October Crisis, so I am not entirely convinced of the existence of a secret Francophone cabal either.

Ok, serious question for a change, is Pierre the French-Canadian equivalent to Joe/John or is the number of Pierre’s in politics an odd coincidence?

[Port Carverton]

It's '70s era fear-mongering.

Isn’t Trudeau your current president??? And don’t say it was referring to that Pierre guy, they are obviously political rivals and not the same person. Pierre Trudeau makes as much sense as Mitt Obama, whatever putting their names together is supposed to mean. To be fair, he did evoke the War Measures Act when Pierre was kidnapped by the FLQ in the October Crisis, so I am not entirely convinced of the existence of a secret Francophone cabal either.

Ok, serious question for a change, is Pierre the French-Canadian equivalent to Joe/John or is the number of Pierre’s in politics an odd coincidence?

No, that would be Jean. (Pronounced as a nasal 'Jahn')

[Kaumudeen]

It's '70s era fear-mongering.

Isn’t Trudeau your current president??? And don’t say it was referring to that Pierre guy, they are obviously political rivals and not the same person. Pierre Trudeau makes as much sense as Mitt Obama, whatever putting their names together is supposed to mean. To be fair, he did evoke the War Measures Act when Pierre was kidnapped by the FLQ in the October Crisis, so I am not entirely convinced of the existence of a secret Francophone cabal either.

Ok, serious question for a change, is Pierre the French-Canadian equivalent to Joe/John or is the number of Pierre’s in politics an odd coincidence?

Pierre is French for Peter, which is a common name in Romance language communities due to St. Peter's connection to Catholicism (A lot of Italian Americans for example are called Peter, Mexicans Pedro etc.)

[Soviet Haaregrad]

It's '70s era fear-mongering.

Isn’t Trudeau your current president??? And don’t say it was referring to that Pierre guy, they are obviously political rivals and not the same person. Pierre Trudeau makes as much sense as Mitt Obama, whatever putting their names together is supposed to mean. To be fair, he did evoke the War Measures Act when Pierre was kidnapped by the FLQ in the October Crisis, so I am not entirely convinced of the existence of a secret Francophone cabal either.

Ok, serious question for a change, is Pierre the French-Canadian equivalent to Joe/John or is the number of Pierre’s in politics an odd coincidence?

Pierre Trudeau is the father of Justin Trudeau. Pierre Trudeau was the current Prime Minister when the book you brought up was published.

[Luziyca]

Trudeau and Singh are quietly planning electoral reform legislation.

Disappointingly, from what the article says, it's not so much "we're finally going to reform the election system" that Trudeau promised nearly a decade ago, but more "let's expand the voting period to three days; allowing voters to cast their ballots from any polling place in the riding, and improving the process for sending mail-in ballots," but I'm sure Poilievre will be claiming "oh nos the evil Trudope and Singh are goings to change the electoral system to benefit them and forever perpetuates the tyranical and oppressive Liberal-NDP coalition that cracked down on our freed0ms we must fights to maintain FPTP as is!!!!11111" in no time.

As I've said many times since Trudeau dropped that promise (and made me vow to never support the Liberal Party so long as he's still leader for that one), I'm gonna have to see it before I believe it.

[ARIsyan-]

Trudeau and Singh are quietly planning electoral reform legislation.

Disappointingly, from what the article says, it's not so much "we're finally going to reform the election system" that Trudeau promised nearly a decade ago, but more "let's expand the voting period to three days; allowing voters to cast their ballots from any polling place in the riding, and improving the process for sending mail-in ballots," but I'm sure Poilievre will be claiming "oh nos the evil Trudope and Singh are goings to change the electoral system to benefit them and forever perpetuates the tyranical and oppressive Liberal-NDP coalition that cracked down on our freed0ms we must fights to maintain FPTP as is!!!!11111" in no time.

As I've said many times since Trudeau dropped that promise (and made me vow to never support the Liberal Party so long as he's still leader for that one), I'm gonna have to see it before I believe it.

Still not gonna make voting day a holiday lmao

[Luziyca]

Alberta is unveiling American-style transphobic laws that among other things:

• Ban people under the age of 16 from using their chosen names and pronouns (and requiring schools to inform the parents of students who are 16 or 17 of that decision before it can be used at school)
• Ban the use of puberty blockers for those under the age of 16 (and even then, 16 and 17 year olds would require permission from their parents, a physician and a psychologist before they can start hormone therapy)
• Ban top and bottom surgeries for all children under the age of 17 (even if bottom surgery is only performed on adults anyway)
• Require that parents opt their children in to every individual lesson about sex education, sexual orientation, and/or gender identity

Fucking hell.

[Kaumudeen]

Alberta is unveiling American-style transphobic laws that among other things:

• Ban people under the age of 16 from using their chosen names and pronouns (and requiring schools to inform the parents of students who are 16 or 17 of that decision before it can be used at school)
• Ban the use of puberty blockers for those under the age of 16 (and even then, 16 and 17 year olds would require permission from their parents, a physician and a psychologist before they can start hormone therapy)
• Ban top and bottom surgeries for all children under the age of 17 (even if bottom surgery is only performed on adults anyway)
• Require that parents opt their children in to every individual lesson about sex education, sexual orientation, and/or gender identity

Fucking hell.

I really don't care about the law. But I'm pretty sure there are far more important things in the education system that need to be fixed.

[ARIsyan-]

Alberta is unveiling American-style transphobic laws that among other things:

• Ban people under the age of 16 from using their chosen names and pronouns (and requiring schools to inform the parents of students who are 16 or 17 of that decision before it can be used at school)
• Ban the use of puberty blockers for those under the age of 16 (and even then, 16 and 17 year olds would require permission from their parents, a physician and a psychologist before they can start hormone therapy)
• Ban top and bottom surgeries for all children under the age of 17 (even if bottom surgery is only performed on adults anyway)
• Require that parents opt their children in to every individual lesson about sex education, sexual orientation, and/or gender identity

Fucking hell.

I mean the top surgery ban seems to be especially concerning if it's not related to gender transitional therapy. What if a young girl has cancer and needs to have her breasts removed? What if that is a transgender boy who has cancer?

The first one is the dumbest one yet because banning nicknames is just a violation of children's rights, even if it isn't a name change.

Puberty blockers are still dubious in terms of their safety for use, but I certainly doubt that the province consulted the medical community before the ban.

The final one is already pretty standard across Canada but I oppose it nonetheless.

[Free Conservative Provinces of Canada]

Alberta is unveiling American-style transphobic laws that among other things:

• Ban people under the age of 16 from using their chosen names and pronouns (and requiring schools to inform the parents of students who are 16 or 17 of that decision before it can be used at school)
• Ban the use of puberty blockers for those under the age of 16 (and even then, 16 and 17 year olds would require permission from their parents, a physician and a psychologist before they can start hormone therapy)
• Ban top and bottom surgeries for all children under the age of 17 (even if bottom surgery is only performed on adults anyway)
• Require that parents opt their children in to every individual lesson about sex education, sexual orientation, and/or gender identity

Fucking hell.

I mean the top surgery ban seems to be especially concerning if it's not related to gender transitional therapy. What if a young girl has cancer and needs to have her breasts removed? What if that is a transgender boy who has cancer?

The first one is the dumbest one yet because banning nicknames is just a violation of children's rights, even if it isn't a name change.

Puberty blockers are still dubious in terms of their safety for use, but I certainly doubt that the province consulted the medical community before the ban.

The final one is already pretty standard across Canada but I oppose it nonetheless.

Yeah, everything on that list is so stupid. I would just move away at that point because of this corrupt government. This is why I will never live in literal Alberta. The laws there are absurd and look like they were made by some authoritarian. Every damn politician is corrupt these days. Ugh. Every law of that list has to be removed.

[ARIsyan-]

I mean the top surgery ban seems to be especially concerning if it's not related to gender transitional therapy. What if a young girl has cancer and needs to have her breasts removed? What if that is a transgender boy who has cancer?

The first one is the dumbest one yet because banning nicknames is just a violation of children's rights, even if it isn't a name change.

Puberty blockers are still dubious in terms of their safety for use, but I certainly doubt that the province consulted the medical community before the ban.

The final one is already pretty standard across Canada but I oppose it nonetheless.

Yeah, everything on that list is so stupid. I would just move away at that point because of this corrupt government. This is why I will never live in literal Alberta. The laws there are absurd and look like they were made by some authoritarian. Every damn politician is corrupt these days. Ugh. Every law of that list has to be removed.

This is surprising coming from the free conservative provinces of canada lmao, but it shows that these laws don't even resonate with most conservatives themselves. In fact they didn't ask for this during the election campaign.

[Port Carverton]

Yeah, everything on that list is so stupid. I would just move away at that point because of this corrupt government. This is why I will never live in literal Alberta. The laws there are absurd and look like they were made by some authoritarian. Every damn politician is corrupt these days. Ugh. Every law of that list has to be removed.

This is surprising coming from the free conservative provinces of canada lmao, but it shows that these laws don't even resonate with most conservatives themselves. In fact they didn't ask for this during the election campaign.

It's not that surprising when you consider that conservatives in this country have tried to stay near the center on various issues.

[Free Conservative Provinces of Canada]

Yeah, everything on that list is so stupid. I would just move away at that point because of this corrupt government. This is why I will never live in literal Alberta. The laws there are absurd and look like they were made by some authoritarian. Every damn politician is corrupt these days. Ugh. Every law of that list has to be removed.

This is surprising coming from the free conservative provinces of canada lmao, but it shows that these laws don't even resonate with most conservatives themselves. In fact they didn't ask for this during the election campaign.

I'm kind of a libertarian-conservative type person. Like Poilievre.

[Kaumudeen]

This is surprising coming from the free conservative provinces of canada lmao, but it shows that these laws don't even resonate with most conservatives themselves. In fact they didn't ask for this during the election campaign.

It's not that surprising when you consider that conservatives in this country have tried to stay near the center on various issues.

What have Canadian Conservatives "conserved" aside from US interference and big business monopolies in Canada?

[Shrillland]

BC's Advanced Education Minister resigns after saying Israel was founded on "a crappy piece of land"

She will remain a part of the NDP caucus.

[Kaumudeen]

BC's Advanced Education Minister resigns after saying Israel was founded on "a crappy piece of land"

She will remain a part of the NDP caucus.

She basically said Palestinians didn't do anything with the land. I bet if she said it about Ukranians or Indigenous she would be blacklisted.

[ARIsyan-]

BC's Advanced Education Minister resigns after saying Israel was founded on "a crappy piece of land"

She will remain a part of the NDP caucus.

That's fair, I don't think what she said warrants being blacklisted but she should certainly not be a member of the executive council. The difference between her and Sara Jama is that Jama signed a statement denying rapes that Hamas committed during the October seventh attack, which I would say is worse than describing a country as being resource poor.