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Who do you intend to vote for in the next Federal General Election?

Liberals
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Conservatives
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29%
NDP
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Bloc Quebecois
15
6%
Greens
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5%
PPC
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None of the above (please explain why in the thread)
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Postby Nilokeras » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:40 pm

The Marlborough wrote:If you expect me to the positions, in regards to China's behavior, of anyone bearing the image of that man seriously, think again.


...Is this about my shitposting Lenin avatar?



If only he were part of some sort of organization with the power to order the RCMP to do things and/or create legislation to solve this problem. Oh well!
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Postby Shrillland » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:11 am

I hadn't noticed this, but the lovely town of Asbestos, QC, is voting on a name change: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/set-to-be-renamed-asbestos-que-grapples-with-history-identity/ar-BB1a7Wb9?li=AAggNb9
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:25 am

A new Conservative effort to set up a committee to investigate mishandling of Covid funds by the government is now going to be a confidence vote: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/liberals-say-tory-effort-to-set-up-covid-19-committee-will-be-a-confidence-matter/ar-BB1acodS?li=AAggFp5

So if they vote to create the council, Canada goes to the polls likely in early December.
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Postby Anatoliyanskiy » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:28 am

Shrillland wrote:A new Conservative effort to set up a committee to investigate mishandling of Covid funds by the government is now going to be a confidence vote: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/liberals-say-tory-effort-to-set-up-covid-19-committee-will-be-a-confidence-matter/ar-BB1acodS?li=AAggFp5

So if they vote to create the council, Canada goes to the polls likely in early December.


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In all seriousness however, the worst thing Canada needs right now is an election. We definitely do not need an election in our current situation. This is quite obviously a power grab by the conservatives, as they realize they could probably form government if they got an election in. I mean, I support creation of a council, but why a confidence vote?
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Postby Luziyca » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:42 am

Shrillland wrote:A new Conservative effort to set up a committee to investigate mishandling of Covid funds by the government is now going to be a confidence vote: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/liberals-say-tory-effort-to-set-up-covid-19-committee-will-be-a-confidence-matter/ar-BB1acodS?li=AAggFp5

So if they vote to create the council, Canada goes to the polls likely in early December.

Why would you make that a confidence vote? I just want to vote in the provincial election in peace, god dammit, and I don't want that ruined by a federal campaign starting just as we're about to vote!
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:43 am

Anatoliyanskiy wrote:
Shrillland wrote:A new Conservative effort to set up a committee to investigate mishandling of Covid funds by the government is now going to be a confidence vote: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/liberals-say-tory-effort-to-set-up-covid-19-committee-will-be-a-confidence-matter/ar-BB1acodS?li=AAggFp5

So if they vote to create the council, Canada goes to the polls likely in early December.


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In all seriousness however, the worst thing Canada needs right now is an election. We definitely do not need an election in our current situation. This is quite obviously a power grab by the conservatives, as they realize they could probably form government if they got an election in. I mean, I support creation of a council, but why a confidence vote?


The same reason they prorogued with the original WE Charity investigation, which this proposed committee is also going to look into. Trudeau seems more prepared to bring Canadians to the brink than have the Liberals held accountable, at least that's how it seems.
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Postby Luziyca » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:47 am

Shrillland wrote:
Anatoliyanskiy wrote:
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In all seriousness however, the worst thing Canada needs right now is an election. We definitely do not need an election in our current situation. This is quite obviously a power grab by the conservatives, as they realize they could probably form government if they got an election in. I mean, I support creation of a council, but why a confidence vote?


The same reason they prorogued with the WE Charity mess. Trudeau seems more prepared to bring Canadians to the brink than have the Liberals held accountable, at least that's how it seems.

Probably.

I honestly think once the pandemic comes to an end, Trudeau should resign. But right now, especially with two provincial elections happening in a few weeks, I feel it is a stupid idea to have a no-confidence motion that risks delaying these elections, though that's because today's the first day of advance voting in Saskatchewan, and I feel that if the provincial election got shunted to April, then the NDP would have less chance of winning than they do now.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:49 am

Luziyca wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
The same reason they prorogued with the WE Charity mess. Trudeau seems more prepared to bring Canadians to the brink than have the Liberals held accountable, at least that's how it seems.

Probably.

I honestly think once the pandemic comes to an end, Trudeau should resign. But right now, especially with two provincial elections happening in a few weeks, I feel it is a stupid idea to have a no-confidence motion that risks delaying these elections, though that's because today's the first day of advance voting in Saskatchewan, and I feel that if the provincial election got shunted to April, then the NDP would have less chance of winning than they do now.


I don't think the vote will take place in the House tomorrow, they'll wait until next week when the elections are over.
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Postby Luziyca » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:53 am

Shrillland wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Probably.

I honestly think once the pandemic comes to an end, Trudeau should resign. But right now, especially with two provincial elections happening in a few weeks, I feel it is a stupid idea to have a no-confidence motion that risks delaying these elections, though that's because today's the first day of advance voting in Saskatchewan, and I feel that if the provincial election got shunted to April, then the NDP would have less chance of winning than they do now.


I don't think the vote will take place in the House tomorrow, they'll wait until next week when the elections are over.

"A vote on the motion will take place later this week, potentially on the one-year anniversary of the Liberals being re-elected with a minority government."

This seems to me that it'll be voted on this week, while my provincial election is on October 26th. So, I feel that if the NDP does not support the Liberals on the matter, then my provincial election will get moved to April, assuming Trudeau immediately goes to the Governor-General to request an election.
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Postby Anatoliyanskiy » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:09 am

Oh, let's not forget about the York and Toronto Centre by-elections, which will be happening the same day the Saskatchewan Provincial election is happening as well, with the BC one only finishing two days before and the government still being formed. Why are so many elections happening so fast!? that's four elections happening within days of each other. A bit strange, don't you think?
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:13 am

Anatoliyanskiy wrote:Oh, let's not forget about the York and Toronto Centre by-elections, which will be happening the same day the Saskatchewan Provincial election is happening as well, with the BC one only finishing two days before and the government still being formed. Why are so many elections happening so fast!? that's four elections happening within days of each other. A bit strange, don't you think?


Yeah, but those aren't especially newsworthy save for Annamie Paul showing us that loyalty to a riding isn't all that it's cracked up to be by the trouncing she'll get at the Liberals' hands.
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Postby Anatoliyanskiy » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:59 am

Shrillland wrote:
Anatoliyanskiy wrote:Oh, let's not forget about the York and Toronto Centre by-elections, which will be happening the same day the Saskatchewan Provincial election is happening as well, with the BC one only finishing two days before and the government still being formed. Why are so many elections happening so fast!? that's four elections happening within days of each other. A bit strange, don't you think?


Yeah, but those aren't especially newsworthy save for Annamie Paul showing us that loyalty to a riding isn't all that it's cracked up to be by the trouncing she'll get at the Liberals' hands.


Good point. The exact opposite is happening with Maxime Bernier, who is running the the York Centre one, because he is desperately trying to get his party a seat even though they averaged around fifth place in every riding in the last election, despite running candidates in almost all of them. He too will get trounced by the Liberals.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:43 pm

I'll admit as much that as an outsider looking in, that Canadian politics is a bit queer to me. Why so much Liberalism and the emphasis on affording so many accomodations, special rights and etc. for minority groups and wanting to maintain multiculturalism instead of more nationalist policies?

If I had Canadian citizenship and the means to run for office, I'd run on a platform of being like the Donald Trump of Canada. Would support bringing back the Residential Schools for the first nation peoples and would push for immigration from developing countries to be closed off in favor of immigration from other rich countries, if not the US, and look to loosening the gun laws by a lot to bring it closer to how guns are in the US.

I would also explore how to integrate Quebec into the rest of Canada so that it isn't culturally separate enough as to be more French than English anymore. The Chinese model of how they govern Tibet is what I'd be keen on importing, provided it can be modified as to be compatible with Canadian law but still accomplish the objective of making Quebec like the rest of Canada over the long term, before my time in office would end.
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Postby Refuge Isle » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:32 pm

Saiwania wrote:I would also explore how to integrate Quebec into the rest of Canada so that it isn't culturally separate enough as to be more French than English anymore. The Chinese model of how they govern Tibet is what I'd be keen on importing, provided it can be modified as to be compatible with Canadian law but still accomplish the objective of making Quebec like the rest of Canada over the long term, before my time in office would end.

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Postby The Marlborough » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:16 pm

What is happening in Nova Scotia and the two deaths in Quebec because of racist medical staff is incredibly depressing but also entirely unsurprising.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:20 pm

The Marlborough wrote:What is happening in Nova Scotia and the two deaths in Quebec because of racist medical staff is incredibly depressing but also entirely unsurprising.


That it is. For all the praise a lot of Americans love to heap on the country, Canada still has a long way to go when it comes to treating the First Nations like human beings....which is pretty much the same story throughout the Anglosphere.
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Postby The Marlborough » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:23 pm

Shrillland wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:What is happening in Nova Scotia and the two deaths in Quebec because of racist medical staff is incredibly depressing but also entirely unsurprising.


That it is. For all the praise a lot of Americans love to heap on the country, Canada still has a long way to go when it comes to treating the First Nations like human beings....which is pretty much the same story throughout the Anglosphere.

Throughout the entirety of the Americas.* Latin America doesn't get a pass, especially since the most recent attempt at a full blown genocide was in Guatemala in the 1980's.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:25 pm

The Marlborough wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
That it is. For all the praise a lot of Americans love to heap on the country, Canada still has a long way to go when it comes to treating the First Nations like human beings....which is pretty much the same story throughout the Anglosphere.

Throughout the entirety of the Americas.* Latin America doesn't get a pass, especially since the most recent attempt at a full blown genocide was in Guatemala in the 1980's.


No...I meant including Australia and the like, not the Americas in that sense. But yes, the Americas as well.
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Postby The Marlborough » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:28 pm

Shrillland wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Throughout the entirety of the Americas.* Latin America doesn't get a pass, especially since the most recent attempt at a full blown genocide was in Guatemala in the 1980's.


No...I meant including Australia and the like, not the Americas in that sense. But yes, the Americas as well.

Ah sorry, it's just that there is this push in Latin American countries to paint their histories as this blissful paradise for indigenous people and that only Anglo colonies and to a lesser extent French ones committed horrible atrocities and killed people.
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