Canadian Politics

[Dresderstan]

Depending on if you like the Liberal and Trudeau it's bad, if not it's a good thing because people will lose confidence in them and will vote them out in October.

What I mean is that, based on his policies

Is Trudeau a good guy or a bad guy?

Should a good Canadian vote for him?

To me personally, as an American no, especially when some of the policies he ran for in '15 he went back on like electoral reform, eliminating the deficit and balancing the budget. To me, he's just a weak, spineless pretty boy faced young guy who got to power because of his name, and with the SNC-Lavalin affair, and the whole groping allegation he had proves that he's a scummy, corrupt person who tries deflect any sort of criticism and uses feminism and cringy SJW language to gain left wing cred.

[Infected Mushroom]

What I mean is that, based on his policies

Is Trudeau a good guy or a bad guy?

Should a good Canadian vote for him?

To me personally, as an American no, especially when some of the policies he ran for in '15 he went back on like electoral reform, eliminating the deficit and balancing the budget. To me, he's just a weak, spineless pretty boy faced young guy who got to power because of his name, and with the SNC-Lavalin affair, and the whole groping allegation he had proves that he's a scummy, corrupt person who tries deflect any sort of criticism and uses feminism and cringy SJW language to gain left wing cred.

I remember he went to my university to make a speech while he was running for PM a while back. The focus was on environmentalism but it sounded kind of insincere to be honest...

He was very well-received on campus.

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Still, kind of surprised he followed through on legalisation of drugs

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If it counts for anything, he's one of the more handsome Prime Ministers

[Shrillland]

To me personally, as an American no, especially when some of the policies he ran for in '15 he went back on like electoral reform, eliminating the deficit and balancing the budget. To me, he's just a weak, spineless pretty boy faced young guy who got to power because of his name, and with the SNC-Lavalin affair, and the whole groping allegation he had proves that he's a scummy, corrupt person who tries deflect any sort of criticism and uses feminism and cringy SJW language to gain left wing cred.

I remember he went to my university to make a speech while he was running for PM a while back. The focus was on environmentalism but it sounded kind of insincere to be honest...

He was very well-received on campus.

...

Still, kind of surprised he followed through on legalisation of drugs

...

If it counts for anything, he's one of the more handsome Prime Ministers

Yeah, but abandoning PR because it would mean coalition governments that the Liberals couldn't completely control was a dick move, even without his current scandals I'd have stayed with the NDP just for that.

[Infected Mushroom]

I remember he went to my university to make a speech while he was running for PM a while back. The focus was on environmentalism but it sounded kind of insincere to be honest...

He was very well-received on campus.

...

Still, kind of surprised he followed through on legalisation of drugs

...

If it counts for anything, he's one of the more handsome Prime Ministers

Yeah, but abandoning PR because it would mean coalition governments that the Liberals couldn't completely control was a dick move, even without his current scandals I'd have stayed with the NDP just for that.

PR?

He promised Proportional Representation?

[Dresderstan]

To me personally, as an American no, especially when some of the policies he ran for in '15 he went back on like electoral reform, eliminating the deficit and balancing the budget. To me, he's just a weak, spineless pretty boy faced young guy who got to power because of his name, and with the SNC-Lavalin affair, and the whole groping allegation he had proves that he's a scummy, corrupt person who tries deflect any sort of criticism and uses feminism and cringy SJW language to gain left wing cred.

I remember he went to my university to make a speech while he was running for PM a while back. The focus was on environmentalism but it sounded kind of insincere to be honest...

He was very well-received on campus.

...

Still, kind of surprised he followed through on legalisation of drugs

...

If it counts for anything, he's one of the more handsome Prime Ministers

I never cared about his environmentalism record, because I felt like it would cause more harm than good, especially the carbon tax.

Also I don't care how handsome the guy is, he's just a weak, spineless version of his father.

[Shrillland]

Yeah, but abandoning PR because it would mean coalition governments that the Liberals couldn't completely control was a dick move, even without his current scandals I'd have stayed with the NDP just for that.

PR?

He promised Proportional Representation?

He did indeed, and it was even in the Liberals manifesto in 2015. He reneged on the promise after party officials pointed out that there could never be a majority government again, and since "coalition" is such a dirty word among you guys for some reason, it was cast to the rocks.

[Dresderstan]

Yeah, but abandoning PR because it would mean coalition governments that the Liberals couldn't completely control was a dick move, even without his current scandals I'd have stayed with the NDP just for that.

PR?

He promised Proportional Representation?

He ran on that platform in 2015, only for a couple of years later to say that changing the electoral system will not be in the mandate. That alone made me realize he was a terrible PM, and I never liekd the guy before he entered the limelight as a candidate.

[Infected Mushroom]

To be fair, coalition governments are a lot less efficient

[Shrillland]

To be fair, coalition governments are a lot less efficient

Better than what you guys had late last decade with elections every other week until people got so fed up they chose Harper's majority out of sheer exhaustion.

[Dresderstan]

To be fair, coalition governments are a lot less efficient

However they're a lot more representative, and we wouldn't have one party controlling everything and stomping over everyone else, there has to be some compromise. Hell take a look at the provincial elections in New Brunswick and Quebec. The Liberals won more votes, but they had one seat less than the PCs who had less votes but an edge in seats, and they formed a minority government with the People's Alliance in a C&S agreement. How is it fair that the Liberals have less seats but more votes? The large disparities between raw vote totals and seat counts in elections like in Canada and the UK is precisely why people want PR system, because it makes smaller parties have a better chance of entering government and it ends the domination of the two parties.

[Novus America]

My question is why are people surprised? That the liberal party in general and Trudeau family in particular are controlled by corrupt Quebec corporations?

In other news Pope is still Catholic, and bears still shit in woods.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

My question is why are people surprised? The liberal party ingeneral and Trudeau family in party are controlled by corrupt Quebec corporations?

In other news Pope is still Catholic, and bears still shit in woods.

On behalf of all Québécois, I shall deliver a stunning and brave statement to the citizens of our fair Earth...

Bombardier fucking sucks and are only alive because the government props them up.

[Shrillland]

My question is why are people surprised? The liberal party ingeneral and Trudeau family in party are controlled by corrupt Quebec corporations?

In other news Pope is still Catholic, and bears still shit in woods.

On behalf of all Québécois, I shall deliver a stunning and brave statement to the citizens of our fair Earth...

Bombardier fucking sucks and are only alive because the government props them up.

Oh, come now, even a few of us Americans know Bombardier sucks, but if you give them another $30 billion, they can finally make trams and get up on their own two feet.

[Painisia]

Well, everybody thought Trudeau was a saint. He made Canada look like the progressive beacon of the world and an active player in foreign relationship.
Now, it turns out he is the stereotypical politician - selfish and only after fame, polishing his facade to make him look like the Messiah of the progressive universe.

But I can see that the Trudeaus are kind of disliked in the Canadian political sphere. Why is it that his father, Pierre, is hated by many? His neoliberal policies or something else?

[Major-Tom]

Well, everybody thought Trudeau was a saint. He made Canada look like the progressive beacon of the world and an active player in foreign relationship.
Now, it turns out he is the stereotypical politician - selfish and only after fame, polishing his facade to make him look like the Messiah of the progressive universe.

But I can see that the Trudeaus are kind of disliked in the Canadian political sphere. Why is it that his father, Pierre, is hated by many? His neoliberal policies or something else?

I think a lot of people, even outside of Canada, understood well before this scandal that Trudeau was far from a Saint. I've always taken him as a somewhat bumbling, vastly overhyped individual with some decent policies and some failures. I don't think he's a malicious guy, just under-qualified and greatly less intelligent than his father.

Too bad Singh isn't coalescing all parts of his base and expanding it - he may be to the left of me, but I'd argue he could make a decent PM, just needs to come across as tougher, more principled, and more accessible from both a platform and personality standpoint.

[The Federal District of Vice Santos]

I’ll be going with the Liberals this time.

I’ve been okay with Trudeau so far, although his approach to aboriginal issues needs work. I’m not too bothered that he didn’t follow through with proportional representation; there should have been at least a referendum of the plan that Trudeau wanted to implement. I don’t expect the FPTP system to last much longer anyways, if outcomes like in the New Bruswick election start occurring more often.

The Conservatives and People’s Party of Canada are non-starters for me, since my ideology does not lean in that direction.

There are a lot of NDP candidates not standing for re-election this year, some of whom who were elected during the orange wave of 2011, so their chances don’t look too good. Plus, Singh comes off to me as Trudeau 2.0. There’s nothing that really makes him stand out as a distinct candidate that would make think that I’d rather vote for him.

The Greens have never been able to grasp that if you want to either form the government of be the official opposition, you need to account for winning seats in Québec. That how the major parties (Liberals and Conservatives) have done it. That’s how the NDP became the opposition. And that’s how even the Bloc managed to be the opposition in the mid 1990s and were going to be able to be a part of the 2008 coalition attempt of the Liberals and NDP. While its possible to form the government without any seats in Quebec, its very hard to do. So, for this reason alone, the Greens aren’t an option for me either.

And for the Bloc…I don’t live in Quebec, so its not relevant to me. I did like their environmental policy back around 2008, but that was all I liked about them.

So, I’m sticking with the Liberals, even if the SNC-Lavalin scandal ends up hurting them.

[Saint-Thor]

Oh, come now, even a few of us Americans know Bombardier sucks, but if you give them another $30 billion, they can finally make trams and get up on their own two feet.

Canada is not known to be a very generous country regarding his interventions in its own aerospace business. Heck, even the British spent more money on the Cseries than our own government did before the 1 billion deal. And even then, the public funding comes from Québec mostly, not Ottawa. Bay street is probably still pissed about the fact that the majority shareholder of Bombardier is not in Toronto, who knows. That's another debate.

The British, the Japanese, the French and, above all, the American governement, spend much more money in their aerospace than we do, in terms of pro-rata amount. I still have to doublecheck the figures for Boeing but if you count the funding from the Us DoD, the cities and the states where they are located, or even the Nasa, they get something close to three time more money. Of course I'm not counting China, where COMAC got 100% of their money from the Communist party of China Chinese government for their C919.

[Dresderstan]

Jane Philpott, Treasury Board President is resigning from the cabinet position, more of the SNC-Lavalin controversy

[Dresderstan]

Most Canadians side with Wilson-Raybould, believe Trudeau has lost moral authority to govern: Ipsos poll

I say yes, Trudeau should resign, the longer stays and the more this scandal infests, the worse his party will be come October.

[Novus America]

Most Canadians side with Wilson-Raybould, believe Trudeau has lost moral authority to govern: Ipsos poll

I say yes, Trudeau should resign, the longer stays and the more this scandal infests, the worse his party will be come October.

He should, but he will not.
No doubt he will put his personal vanity and delusions of grandeur over any other concerns.

The guy is so arrogant and vain that he cannot make rational decisions on these things.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Most Canadians side with Wilson-Raybould, believe Trudeau has lost moral authority to govern: Ipsos poll

I say yes, Trudeau should resign, the longer stays and the more this scandal infests, the worse his party will be come October.

He tried a tad too hard to be his father, it seems.

[Dresderstan]

Most Canadians side with Wilson-Raybould, believe Trudeau has lost moral authority to govern: Ipsos poll

I say yes, Trudeau should resign, the longer stays and the more this scandal infests, the worse his party will be come October.

He tried a tad too hard to be his father, it seems.

Really, because it doesn't feel like he was trying to be his father, felt more like coasting off of name recognition and his face rather than his policies (Some of which he would go back on) and being a cringy embarrassment to Canada, I'd argue in the same vein as Nickelback, Justin Bieber, and Bryan Adams.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

He tried a tad too hard to be his father, it seems.

Really, because it doesn't feel like he was trying to be his father, felt more like coasting off of name recognition and his face rather than his policies (Some of which he would go back on) and being a cringy embarrassment to Canada, I'd argue in the same vein as Nickelback, Justin Bieber, and Bryan Adams.

He’s the Adam Sandlers of politics.

[Dresderstan]

Google bans political ads during its 2019 election cycle

https://www.calculatedpolitics.com/proj ... -election/

I think this is the first time the site shows the Tories with more seats than the Liberals, as well as a boost in Alberta, the Prairies, Ontario and I think even in Quebec and the Atlantic Canada. But of course their poll lead has been lost in B.C. Also I noticed that the Greens would only have 1 seats and the Bloc would remain stagnant at 10.

[Shrillland]

Google bans political ads during its 2019 election cycle

https://www.calculatedpolitics.com/proj ... -election/

I think this is the first time the site shows the Tories with more seats than the Liberals, as well as a boost in Alberta, the Prairies, Ontario and I think even in Quebec and the Atlantic Canada. But of course their poll lead has been lost in B.C. Also I noticed that the Greens would only have 1 seats and the Bloc would remain stagnant at 10.

They are quite dogmatic over keeping outside influence to a minimum. Until 2015, they couldn't even show election night coverage nationwide until all the polls closed, just in the places that were already closed. '15 was the first one to just do what we do here because they realised that some victories in NL aren't going to discourage people in Prince Rupert from voting as they would anyway.