China Separating Kids from their Parents

[Gormwood]

Muhammad and Winnie the Poo are public enemy No. 1 in China. Its horrible

Actually, Winnie the Pooh is the one who's overseeing their persecution.

But the actual Pooh is banned as an insult to Xi.

[Tokora]

Is there any particular reason why China is the only country on earth to trade with? If they don't want to work with countries that criticise them than by all means we shouldn't force them to. There are almost 200 countries in the world and the fact that the only one we care about is a reactionary totalitarian state that shuts down the conversation if given even the slightest criticism is a problem that shouldn't've existed in the first place.

[Cekoviu]

Is there any particular reason why China is the only country on earth to trade with? If they don't want to work with countries that criticise them than by all means we shouldn't force them to. There are 195 countries on earth and the fact that the only one we care about is a reactionary totalitarian state that shuts down the conversation if given even the slightest criticism is a problem that shouldn't've existed in the first place.

Um, there are 197. And a shitload of those are also totalitarian states that shut down the conversation if given criticism.

[Tokora]

Is there any particular reason why China is the only country on earth to trade with? If they don't want to work with countries that criticise them than by all means we shouldn't force them to. There are 195 countries on earth and the fact that the only one we care about is a reactionary totalitarian state that shuts down the conversation if given even the slightest criticism is a problem that shouldn't've existed in the first place.

Um, there are 197. And a shitload of those are also totalitarian states that shut down the conversation if given criticism.

All of them? I think India and Vietnam (at least they're a step up in comparison) would be good alternatives. And even if most states are authoritarian do we really need to put all our chips into one of the worst ones?

[Orbitar]

What would you support?

Forced conversion, denial of religious services, deportation to Muslim-majority countries.

Wow. You are f**king horrible. Go back to Nazi germany with that vile sh*t.

[Cekoviu]

Um, there are 197. And a shitload of those are also totalitarian states that shut down the conversation if given criticism.

All of them? I think India and Vietnam (at least they're a step up in comparison) would be good alternatives. And even if most states are authoritarian do we really need to put all our chips into one of the worst ones?

A lot of places do use Indian services for a lot of things, just less material stuff (customer service outsourcing, etc.), and Vietnam has like a tenth of China's population and far less resources.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I really hope and pray that Americans don't become soulless enough to send millions of people to their deaths, but seeing how this nation is, it can happen and the day it does, it's likely Americans won't be American any more and America will be a piece of history

Yup, just saved this thread from inactivity

And if this happens, we will bear this persecution with patience and forbearance as Muhammad (saw) did when he was persecuted in Mecca. If Allah finds us a way, we will be saved. Inshallah. Ameen.

Yeah, we finna jihaad tf outta this country.
Or make hijrah.

Forced conversion, denial of religious services, deportation to Muslim-majority countries.

Wow. You are f**king horrible. Go back to Nazi germany with that vile sh*t.

You can't go back to a country that doesn't exist. Also you shouldn't wish that on somebody.

[Tokora]

Wow. You are f**king horrible. Go back to Nazi germany with that vile sh*t.

You can't go back to a country that doesn't exist. Also you shouldn't wish that on somebody.

Some people (the American right for example) unironically wish they could so it fails as an insult either way.

[Saiwania]

I'm in favor of this if it is furthering the interests of the state within China. You've got to start the indoctrination as early in life as possible, if you're going to do it.

The US in my view, should be considering taking the children away from the asylum seekers and illegal immigrants to use as leverage for getting them to leave the country and return to where they came from.

[Victoriala II]

They've violated ethnic and religious minorities' rights for decades, this is anything but surprising. Nothing will be done because the international community is too cowardly to confront them over this. It's partly understandable because they're a superpower, but doesn't excuse the outrage and then forgetfulness.

May Allah SWT punish China, aameen.

No, that's stupid. If we punished entire countries because of the actions of their government, then there'd be no countries at all.

its actually a good thing because countries shouldn't exist

[Cekoviu]

I'm in favor of this if it is furthering the interests of the state within China. You've got to start the indoctrination as early in life as possible, if you're going to do it.

The US in my view, should be considering taking the children away from the asylum seekers and illegal immigrants to use as leverage for getting them to leave the country and return to where they came from.

Horrifying.

[Bluelight-R006]

Sounds like a humans right violation horrible business, hope the United Nations step in.

The United Nations have laws on human rights, but no drastic action that will confirm the total death of this policy permanently will be taken.

I'm in favor of this if it is furthering the interests of the state within China. You've got to start the indoctrination as early in life as possible, if you're going to do it.

The US in my view, should be considering taking the children away from the asylum seekers and illegal immigrants to use as leverage for getting them to leave the country and return to where they came from.

I find that people have their own rights to teach their child(ren) about religion and not the government that doesn’t have a biological connection to the child(ren). Unless they are teaching harmful subjects, like raping and killing. Otherwise I don’t see the permanent harm they can do to China as a whole.

And no, the US should do it in a more civilised way instead of taking children away. That’ll be stepping down to the level of a cult.

[Novus America]

Sounds like a humans right violation horrible business, hope the United Nations step in.

The UN?
The same UN that has countless vile dictators as members?
The same one where most the governments are bought out by the PRC?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Ah China. I am not surprised anymore about your level of fuckery. It’s sad, though. I feel sad for Muslim people there, but I’m truly not surprised about China separating Muslim kids from their parents. Easy prey that way for indoctrination. Poor children.

[The Emerald Legion]

A radical proposal I'm sure but can Euroamerican media fix what's happening in their own backyard before projecting what they're doing daily on a sufficiently racially stereotyped bogeyman?

I mean. We aren't actually doing that though so...

[Kowani]

I'm in favor of this if it is furthering the interests of the state within China. You've got to start the indoctrination as early in life as possible, if you're going to do it.

The US in my view, should be considering taking the children away from the asylum seekers and illegal immigrants to use as leverage for getting them to leave the country and return to where they came from.

We get it, you hate everybody.

[Gormwood]

I'm in favor of this if it is furthering the interests of the state within China. You've got to start the indoctrination as early in life as possible, if you're going to do it.

The US in my view, should be considering taking the children away from the asylum seekers and illegal immigrants to use as leverage for getting them to leave the country and return to where they came from.

We get it, you hate everybody.

Nonwhite.

[Katganistan]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-48825090

China is deliberately separating Muslim children from their families, faith and language in its far western region of Xinjiang, according to new research.

At the same time as hundreds of thousands of adults are being detained in giant camps, a rapid, large-scale campaign to build boarding schools is under way.

Based on publicly available documents, and backed up by dozens of interviews with family members overseas, the BBC has gathered some of the most comprehensive evidence to date about what is happening to children in the region.

Records show that in one township alone more than 400 children have lost not just one but both parents to some form of internment, either in the camps or in prison.

Formal assessments are carried out to determine whether the children are in need of "centralised care".

Alongside the efforts to transform the identity of Xinjiang's adults, the evidence points to a parallel campaign to systematically remove children from their roots.

This kind of thing is really not acceptable. The idea of forceably separating parents and children has no place in a modern country and steps should be taken to end the practice.

What do y'all think NSG? Is China right in what they're doing? After all, these Muslims are breaking with Chinese traditional norms, to the point of breaking the law under state imposed atheism.

The same thing is happening on the US' southern border. The world has gone to shit.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-48825090



This kind of thing is really not acceptable. The idea of forceably separating parents and children has no place in a modern country and steps should be taken to end the practice.

What do y'all think NSG? Is China right in what they're doing? After all, these Muslims are breaking with Chinese traditional norms, to the point of breaking the law under state imposed atheism.

The same thing is happening on the US' southern border. The world has gone to shit.

Thankfully we live in a country where we can write and talk about it. In China, criticism will get censored.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Good to see reminders that horrid aren’t just in the west

[Bluelight-R006]

The same thing is happening on the US' southern border. The world has gone to shit.

Thankfully we live in a country where we can write and talk about it. In China, criticism will get censored.

At least the international community will be talking about it, too. Give the nations the bad reputation they deserve.

[Turbofolkia]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-48825090



This kind of thing is really not acceptable. The idea of forceably separating parents and children has no place in a modern country and steps should be taken to end the practice.

What do y'all think NSG? Is China right in what they're doing? After all, these Muslims are breaking with Chinese traditional norms, to the point of breaking the law under state imposed atheism.

The same thing is happening on the US' southern border. The world has gone to shit.

The same thing isn’t happening there at all. That is a policy of detaining a relatively small number of non-regular immigrants for a temporary period. What China is doing is rounding up hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of its own citizens, young and old, for the purpose of erasing their Uyghur identity and indoctrinating them to become obedient little drones of the CCP. If the US was detaining millions of its own citizens of Hispanic descent for “crimes” such as speaking Spanish, travelling overseas or listening to Hispanic music and placing them in camps where their culture is to be completely erased, then the situation would be the same.

The most comparable policy to this that was implemented by a Western country would be the Stolen Generation in Australia, and even that was not on as wide of a scale.

[Nakena]

I'm in favor of this if it is furthering the interests of the state within China. You've got to start the indoctrination as early in life as possible, if you're going to do it.

The US in my view, should be considering taking the children away from the asylum seekers and illegal immigrants to use as leverage for getting them to leave the country and return to where they came from.

Horrifying.

Saiwania is our forum resident evil overlord with the worst, horrifying and quite often unworkable ideas and suggestions.

[Purpelia]

How is this any different from what the rest of the world does? Do we not also separate children from parents whose behavior we see as inappropriate? Fact is this is simply one of those cases where we see our stupid standards for making that decision as right because their are ours and theirs as wrong because they are different. And I call hypocrisy on that.

PS. I am against the practice existing anywhere for any reason, just to be clear.

[Bluelight-R006]

How is this any different from what the rest of the world does? Do we not also separate children from parents whose behavior we see as inappropriate? Fact is this is simply one of those cases where we see our stupid standards for making that decision as right because their are ours and theirs as wrong because they are different. And I call hypocrisy on that.

PS. I am against the practice existing anywhere for any reason, just to be clear.

Yes, but emancipation simply because of Islamic indoctrination isn’t emancipation due to uncivilised parents behaviour. They’re different things. Therefore, no. We don’t do this around the world. Even those who are against Islam and have the power to do something like what China did won’t do it in their country (unless their country is heavily corrupt) because it’ll ruin their reputation.