Charlottesville attacker gets life sentence

[Heloin]

He killed a person and injured 30 others, the downside to this sentencing is that he has only one life to serve in prison.

This kind of attitude is what makes it so hard to get appropriate rehabilitative care in the US prison system. Yes, he did an absolutely horrible thing and irreversibly harmed the lives of many, but he's not completely beyond redemption (or he wouldn't be if our prison systems weren't solely focused on punitive justice).

Murderers aren't really the people rehabilitation is or should be focused on.

[West Leas Oros 2]

So if someone decides to run someone over just for fun, it's not as bad? Murder is murder, people overrate intention

Intent is the difference between murder and manslaughter.

Indeed. But doing it for fun is generally murder, is it not?

[Rojava Free State]

He killed a person and injured 30 others, the downside to this sentencing is that he has only one life to serve in prison.

This kind of attitude is what makes it so hard to get appropriate rehabilitative care in the US prison system. Yes, he did an absolutely horrible thing and irreversibly harmed the lives of many, but he's not completely beyond redemption (or he wouldn't be if our prison systems weren't solely focused on punitive justice).

It's very hard to change nazis. They need to be willing to change and no amount of trying to fix them will succeed otherwise. Fields has likely no remorse for what he did and is a violent animal. He took a life, now he will serve his life in prison

[Rojava Free State]

So if someone decides to run someone over just for fun, it's not as bad? Murder is murder, people overrate intention

Intent is the difference between murder and manslaughter.

If you intend to kill someone, it's equally wrong no matter why you decided to preemptively take an innocent life

[Galloism]

Intent is the difference between murder and manslaughter.

Indeed. But doing it for fun is generally murder, is it not?

Sure.

But depending on whether you decided to have fun in teh moment or decided to have fun and planned for it is the difference between murder 1 and murder 2.

[Galloism]

Intent is the difference between murder and manslaughter.

If you intend to kill someone, it's equally wrong no matter why you decided to preemptively take an innocent life

Are you sure?

[Cekoviu]

This kind of attitude is what makes it so hard to get appropriate rehabilitative care in the US prison system. Yes, he did an absolutely horrible thing and irreversibly harmed the lives of many, but he's not completely beyond redemption (or he wouldn't be if our prison systems weren't solely focused on punitive justice).

Murderers aren't really the people rehabilitation is or should be focused on.

I'd disagree. Like I said earlier, terrorists as well as people who committed murders in the heat of passion can be rehabilitated. (This is true in the case of fully aware and non-remorseful killers doing it merely because they like killing people.)

[Pyta]

Intent is the difference between murder and manslaughter.

If you intend to kill someone, it's equally wrong no matter why you decided to preemptively take an innocent life

you have, just here, created a demarcation of intent.

[Kannap]

He killed a person and injured 30 others, the downside to this sentencing is that he has only one life to serve in prison.

This kind of attitude is what makes it so hard to get appropriate rehabilitative care in the US prison system. Yes, he did an absolutely horrible thing and irreversibly harmed the lives of many, but he's not completely beyond redemption (or he wouldn't be if our prison systems weren't solely focused on punitive justice).

I fully support rehabilitation, I am heavily against mass incarceration, I am heavily against for-profit prisons. I'm not afraid to make my opinions on America's shitty prison system known, but people like this man are a waste of time when considering who to focus rehabilitation on. I'd group this guy in with the same kind of people who enter public places and start opening fire, sometimes taking dozens of lives - they don't deserve rehabilitation; they deserve prison.

[Kowani]

Murderers aren't really the people rehabilitation is or should be focused on.

I'd disagree. Like I said earlier, terrorists as well as people who committed murders in the heat of passion can be rehabilitated. (This is true in the case of fully aware and non-remorseful killers doing it merely because they like killing people.)

Except this wasn’t a heat of the moment thing.

[Cekoviu]

This kind of attitude is what makes it so hard to get appropriate rehabilitative care in the US prison system. Yes, he did an absolutely horrible thing and irreversibly harmed the lives of many, but he's not completely beyond redemption (or he wouldn't be if our prison systems weren't solely focused on punitive justice).

I fully support rehabilitation, I am heavily against mass incarceration, I am heavily against for-profit prisons. I'm not afraid to make my opinions on America's shitty prison system known, but people like this man are a waste of time when considering who to focus rehabilitation on. I'd group this guy in with the same kind of people who enter public places and start opening fire, sometimes taking dozens of lives - they don't deserve rehabilitation; they deserve prison.

An attempt should at least be made. If he shows absolutely no willingness to change with the appropriate psychiatric care, then yes, but he can't be immediately discounted before even trying.

[Cerinda]

Murderers aren't really the people rehabilitation is or should be focused on.

I'd disagree. Like I said earlier, terrorists as well as people who committed murders in the heat of passion can be rehabilitated. (This is true in the case of fully aware and non-remorseful killers doing it merely because they like killing people.)

People can only change if they want to and most terrorist don't, they will continue to hold their vile beliefs until the day they die.

[Saiwania]

The people he ran over, shouldn't have been in the street in my view. This could be avoided if the country does away with the concept of public protests all together. I'd propose that all forms of political agitation left or right, should take place indoors at pre-approved venues, with security handled by party paramilitaries.

[Kowani]

The people he ran over, shouldn't have been in the street in my view. This could be avoided if the country does away with the concept of public protests all together. I'd propose that all forms of political agitation left or right, should take place indoors at pre-approved venues, with security handled by party paramilitaries.

That defeats the entire point of political protest.

[Thermodolia]

The people he ran over, shouldn't have been in the street in my view. This could be avoided if the country does away with the concept of public protests all together. I'd propose that all forms of political agitation left or right, should take place indoors at pre-approved venues, with security handled by party paramilitaries.

Good idea. We’ll start by banning the far right from gathering anywhere

[Loben The 2nd]

The people he ran over, shouldn't have been in the street in my view. This could be avoided if the country does away with the concept of public protests all together. I'd propose that all forms of political agitation left or right, should take place indoors at pre-approved venues, with security handled by party paramilitaries.

Good idea. We’ll start by banning the far right from gathering anywhere

Can we also ban leftist gatherings too?

[Kannap]

The people he ran over, shouldn't have been in the street in my view. This could be avoided if the country does away with the concept of public protests all together. I'd propose that all forms of political agitation left or right, should take place indoors at pre-approved venues, with security handled by party paramilitaries.

Love hearing people advocate for dismantling of the 1st Amendment.

[Kowani]

Good idea. We’ll start by banning the far right from gathering anywhere

Can we also ban leftist gatherings too?

If you want neoconservatives and neoliberals to be the dominant force unto eternity, sure.

[Kannap]

Good idea. We’ll start by banning the far right from gathering anywhere

Can we also ban leftist gatherings too?

We can start, and stop, by not banning 1st Amendment rights.

[Gormwood]

Good riddance to the Mr. Mercedes wannabe.

[Anagonia]

Shame, the guy who antagonized the incident with a loaded weapon didn't get arrested at all. Used as a political stunt in my opinion. Sad day for justice.

[Gormwood]

Shame, the guy who antagonized the incident with a loaded weapon didn't get arrested at all. Used as a political stunt in my opinion. Sad day for justice.

Waving a loaded weapon is worse than killing and injuring people?

[-Ocelot-]

Good, I think the fucker deserves the death penalty but I'll settle for this.

Death penalty is the easy way out for neo-nazi scum. In fact, many of them believe that dying for their ideology is heroic.

A real punishment for neo-nazis would be work camps. Make them give back to the society they tried to destabilize for entire decades. Nothing would drive them more crazy than being reminded that their work helps vulnerable minorities. Day in and day out. For many, many years.

[Rojava Free State]

Shame, the guy who antagonized the incident with a loaded weapon didn't get arrested at all. Used as a political stunt in my opinion. Sad day for justice.

Anyone who saw the video saw fields run down a group of protesters before anyone attacked him. I'm not even surprised any more though that someone is defending a fascistic killer who took an innocent life, because this is 2019 America and no ideology is too disgusting to have

[Rojava Free State]

Can we also ban leftist gatherings too?

If you want neoconservatives and neoliberals to be the dominant force unto eternity, sure.

It sounds like the adpocalypse but in reality