Is communism behind radical Islam?

[Thanatttynia]

Both 'communism is behind radical Islamism' or the much more popular 'capitalism/the US is behind radical Islamism' are reductive. Radical Islamism has always existed; geopolitical concerns during the Cold War kicked off the strain of it we're currently suffering through.

[Jolthig]

Both 'communism is behind radical Islamism' or the much more popular 'capitalism/the US is behind radical Islamism' are reductive. Radical Islamism has always existed; geopolitical concerns during the Cold War kicked off the strain of it we're currently suffering through.

Yeah, that might be so, but the more modern kind with a combination of Saudi influence and influence from foreign powers, caused the rise of the extremists today.

[Aureumterra]

No, Muhammad was not imperfect. He was perfect.

A human cannot be perfect, whether a prophet or not. Only Allah (swt) is perfect.

But he doesn’t let me eat bacon. How am I supposed to enjoy true perfection: a BLT?

[Thanatttynia]

Both 'communism is behind radical Islamism' or the much more popular 'capitalism/the US is behind radical Islamism' are reductive. Radical Islamism has always existed; geopolitical concerns during the Cold War kicked off the strain of it we're currently suffering through.

Yeah, that might be so, but the more modern kind with a combination of Saudi influence and influence from foreign powers, caused the rise of the extremists today.

Agree, though Hafez Al-Assad, Khomeini and associates are probably just as much to blame as the Saudis for the practical effects of radical Islam as it's currently constituted.

[Ard al Islam]

No, Muhammad was not imperfect. He was perfect.

A human cannot be perfect, whether a prophet or not. Only Allah (swt) is perfect.

Your deen and your iman isn’t complete until you accept every Prophet as free from sin. And indeed, Muhammad, may the peace and blessings of God be upon him, was perfect and free of any sin. And unlike any other Prophet, he is free of human mistakes also. And that is because God made him perfect.

[Aureumterra]

Yeah, that might be so, but the more modern kind with a combination of Saudi influence and influence from foreign powers, caused the rise of the extremists today.

Agree, though Hafez Al-Assad, Khomeini and associates are probably just as much to blame as the Saudis for the practical effects of radical Islam as it's currently constituted.

Funny enough, it seems that radical Islam is really only in the Middle East and a bit in South Asia. Other Islamic majority areas like Indonesia, North Africa, or Central Asia don’t have that problem to the same extent

[Jolthig]

Yeah, that might be so, but the more modern kind with a combination of Saudi influence and influence from foreign powers, caused the rise of the extremists today.

Agree, though Hafez Al-Assad, Khomeini and associates are probably just as much to blame as the Saudis for the practical effects of radical Islam as it's currently constituted.

True. Much of it does stem from anger against western interference in the region. And those mullahs prey on that anger through rhetoric. Just like how Hitler used rhetoric to get an angry german place against the Treaty of Versailles to join him

[Ard al Islam]

A human cannot be perfect, whether a prophet or not. Only Allah (swt) is perfect.

But he doesn’t let me eat bacon. How am I supposed to enjoy true perfection: a BLT?

There are no less than 60 diseases traced to pork. Even scientists and health experts say it’s bad for you.

An article was published in TIME magazine showing the negative effects of eating certain meat, the worst of which is pig.

When the divine and the secular sources say eating pork is bad for you, it’s time to stop eating pork.

[Jolthig]

A human cannot be perfect, whether a prophet or not. Only Allah (swt) is perfect.

Your deen and your iman isn’t complete until you accept every Prophet as free from sin. And indeed, Muhammad, may the peace and blessings of God be upon him, was perfect and free of any sin. And unlike any other Prophet, he is free of human mistakes also. And that is because God made him perfect.

It is not really for us to decide on what the state of one's iman or deen is. Technically your statement applies to every single Muslim in the world because when one sins, they aren't acting in accordance with Islam.

[Al Mumtahanah]

This discussion belongs in the Islamic general thread
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[Ard al Islam]

Your deen and your iman isn’t complete until you accept every Prophet as free from sin. And indeed, Muhammad, may the peace and blessings of God be upon him, was perfect and free of any sin. And unlike any other Prophet, he is free of human mistakes also. And that is because God made him perfect.

It is not really for us to decide on what the state of one's iman or deen is. Technically your state applies to every single Muslim in the world because when one sins, they aren't acting in accordance with Islam.

What do you even mean by that?

[Aeritai]

I'll say Imperialism is the cause of why the Middle East is the way it is today. Mostly because the British and French broke their promise after the end of World War 1.

[Jolthig]

It is not really for us to decide on what the state of one's iman or deen is. Technically your state applies to every single Muslim in the world because when one sins, they aren't acting in accordance with Islam.

What do you even mean by that?

My point is we don't get to decide on what the state of someone's deen or iman is. That's up to Allah.

[Ard al Islam]

What do you even mean by that?

My point is we don't get to decide on what the state of someone's deen or iman is. That's up to Allah.

I know.

[Ard al Islam]

I'll say Imperialism is the cause of why the Middle East is the way it is today. Mostly because the British and French broke their promise after the end of World War 1.

Correct.

[Thanatttynia]

Agree, though Hafez Al-Assad, Khomeini and associates are probably just as much to blame as the Saudis for the practical effects of radical Islam as it's currently constituted.

Funny enough, it seems that radical Islam is really only in the Middle East and a bit in South Asia. Other Islamic majority areas like Indonesia, North Africa, or Central Asia don’t have that problem to the same extent

I suppose it always will come back to how we define radical Islam... Islamic terrorism broadly fits those boundaries, yes, but also elsewhere, notably in West and East Africa and Russia (and ofc the West.)

Indonesia and Central Asia are separated from the rest of the Islamic world by history and geography, which could explain the disparity in radical Islam's prevalence (they are also both the two areas, along with Algeria, that have a truly 'colonial' history, which is also interesting.)

Agree, though Hafez Al-Assad, Khomeini and associates are probably just as much to blame as the Saudis for the practical effects of radical Islam as it's currently constituted.

True. Much of it does stem from anger against western interference in the region. And those mullahs prey on that anger through rhetoric. Just like how Hitler used rhetoric to get an angry german place against the Treaty of Versailles to join him

Yeah, it's a very similar dynamic.

I'll say Imperialism is the cause of why the Middle East is the way it is today. Mostly because the British and French broke their promise after the end of World War 1.

This is perhaps even more reductive than the claim in the thread's title. Anti-imperialism so often serves as a means to further rob historically suppressed groups of agency.

[Bread Herbert]

I am pretty sure that is Muhammed and the Quran that are behind radical islam.

[The Realm of Platinum]

I am pretty sure that is Muhammed and the Quran that are behind radical islam.

Nyet tovarisch.

For OP's question, yes. Tankies are a joke while Islamic terrorists are no joke.

[Phoenicaea]

is communism behind radical islam? i would say, i don t know. it means i will have to see about, and have some nice time. this as a concept.

about in the practical sense the op says, absolutely no. this is not how real works. simply, not communist countries supported muslims and arabs more than urss and china have done.

afghanistan war is the scholar way to say it, also if you see arabia. some muslim countries were aligned whit urss for some, sill they were neutral after, and truly they were neutral.

in the sense you could say it as a monotheistic religion, i mean a 'religion' that spreads in politics and most domains of daily life, this is different thing