buy chinese ?

[Infected Mushroom]

It's hilarious to me that some people actually claim to intentionally not buy from China

It just seems so strange

Are you saying you walk into a shop and ask, "Hey are there parts of this made from China?" Or do you just assume if you buy something and it doesn't say somewhere "made in China" China was not in any way involved?

So strange...

[Valentine Z]

From the poll, I would say that my option is most likely No. 4: I will try to buy the local stuff or a genuine brand but sometimes... a Chinese product (not necessarily a knockoff) will serve you better for the cost.

Yep, reminder that Chinese products aren’t necessarily knockoffs. Sometimes they can match up to other countries’ products... that makes me the difference of being a buyer of both and buyer of just one option.

Ohh, funny story about that one.

Somehow, and the emphasis on "somehow", there was a wave of Chinese companies, like some sort of an organisation, that not only imitated NEC, but copied its entire company and operations.

Sources:

https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1161180
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060 ... 0246.shtml

EDIT: And it must have been super awkward when the actual engineers from NEC have acknowledged that the knockoffs are of a high quality. Like, they copied it so damn well that it could be passed off as actual NEC stuff.

[Infected Mushroom]

For me, the answer is quite obviously, I buy from China probably all the time. Since in Hong Kong, a huge amount of things are made in China

(and why would I make a conscious effort to investigate whether some things are or aren't "made" in China)?

Just buy the cheapest obvs...

[The New California Republic]

Yup. It's likely that the supply chain for various components has been in China at some point.

Computer components especially.

[...]

But I can't afford an expensive, ethical computer hand-assembled in the Alps by singing nuns.

I build computers. It'd be a bit creepy if I dressed as a nun while doing it though...

[Valentine Z]

For me, the answer is quite obviously, I buy from China probably all the time. Since in Hong Kong, a huge amount of things are made in China

(and why would I make a conscious effort to investigate whether some things are or aren't "made" in China)?

Just buy the cheapest obvs...

It's all good and well, if that's what you are going for, but tell me this - do you seriously want to risk the all kinds of complications that will follow? Rashes from clothing, food poisonings, explosive devices, etc...

Mind you, I'm not saying that every single thing that China made will go out in this fashion, but given their laxed regulations, it is common news and occurrence that any of what I've said will happen.

Your obsession over China and pretending that it is a paradise, is frankly a disturbing notion.

[Bluelight-R006]

Yep, reminder that Chinese products aren’t necessarily knockoffs. Sometimes they can match up to other countries’ products... that makes me the difference of being a buyer of both and buyer of just one option.

Ohh, funny story about that one.

Somehow, and the emphasis on "somehow", there was a wave of Chinese companies, like some sort of an organisation, that not only imitated NEC, but copied its entire company and operations.

Sources:

https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1161180
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060 ... 0246.shtml

They have advanced.

If only they knew how to operate like that genuinely everywhere.

[Castelia]

It's hilarious to me that some people actually claim to intentionally not buy from China

It just seems so strange

Are you saying you walk into a shop and ask, "Hey are there parts of this made from China?" Or do you just assume if you buy something and it doesn't say somewhere "made in China" China was not in any way involved?

So strange...

Eh, I do. I do ask the question. People look at me weirdly, of course. But sometimes you gotta stand up to your beliefs, man.

[Infected Mushroom]

I'll always buy local, if I can help it.

I only tend to buy Chinese if there is no other alternative. And by that, I mean made-by-literally-any-other-country-than-China.

It's part of a personal boycott I'm doing.

how do you know there weren't any Chinese components or any Chinese involvement in the process of assembly?

you know that it doesn't have to say "made in China" for there to be Chinese involvement right?

In this day and age, its almost impossible to not buy from China on a regular basis especially with manufactured goods

[Heloin]

For me, the answer is quite obviously, I buy from China probably all the time. Since in Hong Kong, a huge amount of things are made in China

(and why would I make a conscious effort to investigate whether some things are or aren't "made" in China)?

Just buy the cheapest obvs...

It's all good and well, if that's what you are going for, but tell me this - do you seriously want to risk the all kinds of complications that will follow? Rashes from clothing, food poisonings, explosive devices, etc...

Mind you, I'm not saying that every single thing that China made will go out in this fashion, but given their laxed regulations, it is common news and occurrence that any of what I've said will happen.

Your obsession over China and pretending that it is a paradise, is frankly a disturbing notion.

Didn't you know? Xi Jinping can do no wrong.

[Infected Mushroom]

It's hilarious to me that some people actually claim to intentionally not buy from China

It just seems so strange

Are you saying you walk into a shop and ask, "Hey are there parts of this made from China?" Or do you just assume if you buy something and it doesn't say somewhere "made in China" China was not in any way involved?

So strange...

Eh, I do. I do ask the question. People look at me weirdly, of course. But sometimes you gotta stand up to your beliefs, man.

Wait...

Just to be clear

You very regularly walk into a shop, and then at the checkout counter or to a clerk go...

"Hey I want to ask you. Was China involved in the manufacturing/making of this product? Because if they were... I ain't buying it. Please tell me the truth."

Something to that effect?

[Castelia]

how do you know there weren't any Chinese components or any Chinese involvement in the process of assembly?

you know that it doesn't have to say "made in China" for there to be Chinese involvement right?

In this day and age, its almost impossible to not buy from China on a regular basis especially with manufactured goods

Ah, I should have clarified. Of course, when it comes to electronics, gadgets, and more complicated stuff, it can't be helped. But when it comes to anything else?

Food, clothing, daily necessities? I'm pretty sure not everything in those has to come from China.

[The New California Republic]

It's hilarious to me that some people actually claim to intentionally not buy from China

It just seems so strange

It isn't. It may seem like it to you, but it isn't.

[Castelia]

Wait...

Just to be clear

You very regularly walk into a shop, and then at the checkout counter or to a clerk go...

"Hey I want to ask you. Was China involved in the manufacturing/making of this product? Because if they were... I ain't buying it. Please tell me the truth."

Something to that effect?

Well, not the check-out counter. Lol. But yeah. I do. If you ever see a guy asking about whether something was made in China, it's probably me. I kid you not.

[Infected Mushroom]

For me, the answer is quite obviously, I buy from China probably all the time. Since in Hong Kong, a huge amount of things are made in China

(and why would I make a conscious effort to investigate whether some things are or aren't "made" in China)?

Just buy the cheapest obvs...

It's all good and well, if that's what you are going for, but tell me this - do you seriously want to risk the all kinds of complications that will follow? Rashes from clothing, food poisonings, explosive devices, etc...

Mind you, I'm not saying that every single thing that China made will go out in this fashion, but given their laxed regulations, it is common news and occurrence that any of what I've said will happen.

Your obsession over China and pretending that it is a paradise, is frankly a disturbing notion.

I'm saying I don't investigate.

I simply buy what is cheap.

I generally assume that if its in a store in Hong Kong, it has passed at least some safety testing.

The safety testing here may not be as good as in Canada or other Western countries, but its on the whole good enough.

I don't investigate further because it would simply make my life too complicated. Besides, if you asked a clerk or a shop owner here "was China involved in this?" they're really going to be confused.

And the honest truth is, they probably don't know either.

[Ethel mermania]

It's hilarious to me that some people actually claim to intentionally not buy from China

It just seems so strange

Are you saying you walk into a shop and ask, "Hey are there parts of this made from China?" Or do you just assume if you buy something and it doesn't say somewhere "made in China" China was not in any way involved?

So strange...

I always do, and it's quite easy to do so. Consumer products have a made in sticker, as said previously, sub components may come from anywhere, but country of final assembly is always available, usually on the box.
Food, the customs paperwork tells you where it's from, and it's easy to pass on the information to the consumer.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Yeah, that's for people with money to spend. I buy what I need.

[Ethel mermania]

Eh, I do. I do ask the question. People look at me weirdly, of course. But sometimes you gotta stand up to your beliefs, man.

Wait...

Just to be clear

You very regularly walk into a shop, and then at the checkout counter or to a clerk go...

"Hey I want to ask you. Was China involved in the manufacturing/making of this product? Because if they were... I ain't buying it. Please tell me the truth."

Something to that effect?

In America we just look on the box, reading isnt that hard.

[Valentine Z]

It's all good and well, if that's what you are going for, but tell me this - do you seriously want to risk the all kinds of complications that will follow? Rashes from clothing, food poisonings, explosive devices, etc...

Mind you, I'm not saying that every single thing that China made will go out in this fashion, but given their laxed regulations, it is common news and occurrence that any of what I've said will happen.

Your obsession over China and pretending that it is a paradise, is frankly a disturbing notion.

Didn't you know? Xi Jinping can do no wrong.

To add a little, I understand that some of the factories in China in fact actually worked directly for Apple, Samsung, and any other major tech companies, for example. For that one, it's technically from China, but under strict quality control from the US companies. That's as far as I know from my basic understanding.

What we are talking and are concerned about, if I am correct, are the stereotypical Chinese knockoffs and products, the ones that are produced by not-too-reputable companies and factories in China itself, and those that has little to no concern about regulations or safety.

For the latter... yeah, I would NOT want myself to be set ablaze by such a device, thanks.

[The Free Joy State]

Computer components especially.

[...]

But I can't afford an expensive, ethical computer hand-assembled in the Alps by singing nuns.

I build computers. It'd be a bit creepy if I dressed as a nun while doing it though...

No... I mean, while I'm not at all technically minded, I'm pretty sure dressing as a nun is not a necessary part of building a computer.

[Infected Mushroom]

It's hilarious to me that some people actually claim to intentionally not buy from China

It just seems so strange

It isn't. It may seem like it to you, but it isn't.

This is literally one of the most strange things I have ever heard (I mean no offence but truly).

I have heard of people saying, "I try to buy local as much as possible because I want to support the local economy and the local workers" and I have heard "I want to buy from pro-environmental companies because I want to support the environment"

but I have never heard...

"I will make a conscious effort to not buy from China. I will even ask people if things are made in China or not before deciding to buy or not."

[Castelia]

"I will make a conscious effort to not buy from China. I will even ask people if things are made in China or not before deciding to buy or not."

Well, now you have, friend. From me.

[Infected Mushroom]

Wait...

Just to be clear

You very regularly walk into a shop, and then at the checkout counter or to a clerk go...

"Hey I want to ask you. Was China involved in the manufacturing/making of this product? Because if they were... I ain't buying it. Please tell me the truth."

Something to that effect?

Well, not the check-out counter. Lol. But yeah. I do. If you ever see a guy asking about whether something was made in China, it's probably me. I kid you not.

and is that... a fairly common practice in some places in the west?

[The Free Joy State]

Wait...

Just to be clear

You very regularly walk into a shop, and then at the checkout counter or to a clerk go...

"Hey I want to ask you. Was China involved in the manufacturing/making of this product? Because if they were... I ain't buying it. Please tell me the truth."

Something to that effect?

In America we just look on the box, reading isnt that hard.

Products are labelled in the UK, too. I just read the label.

[Samudera Darussalam]

But I can't afford an expensive, ethical computer hand-assembled in the Alps by singing nuns.

Jokes aside, in practice I'd be buying local products than Chinese knockoffs, but since Chinese products are usually cheaper, I can't help but to buy them on occasions, since I'm just a part of the middle class. Except the food, tho.

[The New California Republic]

I build computers. It'd be a bit creepy if I dressed as a nun while doing it though...

No... I mean, while I'm not at all technically minded, I'm pretty sure dressing as a nun is not a necessary part of building a computer.

Any excuse for some crossdressing though.

It isn't. It may seem like it to you, but it isn't.

This is literally one of the most strange things I have ever heard (I mean no offence but truly).

I have heard of people saying, "I try to buy local as much as possible because I want to support the local economy and the local workers" and I have heard "I want to buy from pro-environmental companies because I want to support the environment"

but I have never heard...

"I will make a conscious effort to not buy from China. I will even ask people if things are made in China or not before deciding to buy or not."

Not buying from China can be part and parcel of the same thing, they aren't mutually exclusive you know.