Jon Stewart Ashamed of US Congress

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Well over half of medical research is performed for profit in America.

Americans typically get better treatment than elsewhere, which accounts for some of the cost, but the real price jack is the fact that other nations refuse to allow pharmaceutical companies to make a profit out of a misguided belief that they should just do it for free.

They steal American Medicine, then have the gal to tell us their healthcare is better, when typically it's not only worse, but it's cheaper because they've literally robbed us for it.

How are we stealing American medicine? American company develops some new medicine, they sell it at a profit, our governments buy it from them, we get it in our hospitals. Where's the theft?

It's basically robbery. By asking for a product and saying people will die without out it, third world countries (everyone else) are shaming the poor corporates into making money. It's like me asking to buy food at a store and saying somebody will die if they refuse to sell it. Not only this, but there is a conspiracy to devalue U.S. healthcare.

[Mihnoa]

I applaud Jon Stewart's opening statement. That, for one took great courage to stand up and not only defend the many men and women who paid the price for what was right, he also challenged our nation's lawmakers and held them accountable for not spending enough money on the first responders that are now suffering because instead of fleeing the collapsing buildings, they rushed into them. Though I disagree with free healthcare for all. I do think that all first responders and military personnel should receive those benefits because of the sacrifices they made for our nation. Stewart also reminded us that there is still damage from 9/11 and we need to continue to repair that damage. Instead of shutting down the government because Congress can't agree on where they want to spend the government's money, maybe they should agree to spend more money on where we need it.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

I see Emerald Legion's using insane troll logic to bash foreigners for trying to live, while implicitly shilling for a tragically unequal healthcare system in his own country.

OK, nah.

The more people die the less we need to provide for.

And you all have lawmakers who believe communism works. Far more of them.

True. Congress is in line with the CPUSA and the cabinet looks suspicious. Might have to carry out some purges like McCarthy did. Harsher, because the commies didn't stay locked up.

Yes, we should put anyone we think is a communist into, say, work camps where they will live out their days benefiting the people.
Of course, the government doesn't have the authority to imprison private citizens for their beliefs, they need to be government employees. To circumvent this, we should place the government in control of all aspects of society, so that everyone counts as a government employee.
Then, to prevent the purge from being halted by dissidents, we should temporarily halt elections and grant the President permanent emergency powers so that he can fully carry it out.

To beat communism, we must establish communism.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Doesn't look like 60% to 70% to me.

China, UK, Japan, and Germany together out number US medical studies.

They are buying it, making it, and distributing it. That's the free market.

Doubtful. Given you are relying on UNESCO numbers it's no wonder you have a skewed view of things.

My second source was SCImago Journal Rank, you didn't provide any source on the 60-70% numbers and, seeing that UNESCO isn't a think tank or an organization with left/right leanings i'm going to call you out on your use of a genetic fallacy here.

Doesn't look like 60% to 70% to me.

China, UK, Japan, and Germany together out number US medical studies.

They are buying it, making it, and distributing it. That's the free market.

Publishing papers=/=developing a new drug or treatment.
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/a ... by_country

They are buying it, making it, and distributing it. That's the free market.

Free markets don't operate with Monopsonies. The fact that single payers are, well, single payer means they can demand below market prices.

Publishing papers is a crucial part of research. Those drugs and treatments wouldn't have existed if no one wrote a paper on them.

So beacuse they can demand lower prices for the rights to sell and manufacture that means it's not part of the free market?

Hmm, demanding lower prices for the rights to sell something beacuse you have a lot of money, I wonder why a store chain made in the free market never had that idea before?

Also, sense monopolies are indeed a problem born out of the free market, yes free markets do operate with monopolies.

The US has lawmakers who believe medicine is sorcery. It is no wonder you are starting to fall behind.

And you all have lawmakers who believe communism works. Far more of them.

Not everything from communism was non functional or evil.

Socialized medicine being one such example.

I'm ashamed that Jon Stewart still exists, tbh.

I like Jon Stewart.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

That shows where the priorities of Congress truly are.

Against the American people? Faux patriots are a helluva thing.

[Cetacea]

I watched his speech on Youtube and while it was a good impassioned speech, he was talking to many empty seats amd I do wonder if they are going to be listening or if it was just rhetoric.

The first responders do need to be supported and well, as someone from one of those countries with tax-funded health system, I can not at all understand the America insistence on a privatized insurance-based system

[Kannap]

Love Jon Stewart, and love what he's been doing over the years in regards to taking up this mission to help the 9/11 first responders. It's just a shame it's something that he actually has to do, would think the care of those men and women would be very important.

[Fartsniffage]

I watched his speech on Youtube and while it was a good impassioned speech, he was talking to many empty seats amd I do wonder if they are going to be listening or if it was just rhetoric.

The first responders do need to be supported and well, as someone from one of those countries with tax-funded health system, I can not at all understand the America insistence on a privatized insurance-based system

Of the 8 missing congress critters, 5 are co-sponsors of the bill.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Doesn't look like 60% to 70% to me.

China, UK, Japan, and Germany together out number US medical studies.

They are buying it, making it, and distributing it. That's the free market.

Publishing papers=/=developing a new drug or treatment.
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/a ... by_country

They are buying it, making it, and distributing it. That's the free market.

Free markets don't operate with Monopsonies. The fact that single payers are, well, single payer means they can demand below market prices.

Really the more I think of this the more nonsensical it becomes.

The non existent 60%-70% figure doesn't make sense when looking at it from a paper produced standpoint and money standpoint.

It ignores how many billions of dollars other countries like China, UK, France, Germany, Japan, Canada, and South Korea put in. It also ignores how much work those countries put in to medicine. Does this mean that the US isn't a leader in R&D for medical research? No it doesn't, the US indeed puts in a lot of money and effort into its research for medical advances. Those advancements should be applauded just as much as the rest of the worlds advancements and contributions to medicine.

Which to compare when 2 or more of the top countries are combined in spending for R&D beat the US, it's impossible for that 60%-70% figure number to exist.

To say that the rest of the world lazily piggybacks on the research the US does on medical sciences is near equivalent to the WW2 myth that the Americans invaded the beaches of Normandy by themselves. The actual history is much more varied. The US was a major part yes, but so where the British, New Zealanders, Canadians, Australians, Czechoslovakians, Free French men, Norwegians and, Polish. Contributions to medical science are done by all mankind, not just Americans.

It also goes against the nobleness of some American researchers such as Jonas Edward Salk, who gave the rights to manufacture the Polio vaccine for free.
Medicine doesn't serve by political ideology or nationality. It serves all mankind regardless of nationality, race, political ideology, or any other factor.

Saying "Free markets don't operate with Monopsonies" is also a no true scotsman fallacy. Like it or not monopolies are a problem of the free market. To say that they don't operate with each other is pretending that this problem with capitalism doesn't exist.

[Mihnoa]

I watched his speech on Youtube and while it was a good impassioned speech, he was talking to many empty seats amd I do wonder if they are going to be listening or if it was just rhetoric.

The first responders do need to be supported and well, as someone from one of those countries with tax-funded health system, I can not at all understand the America insistence on a privatized insurance-based system

I agree. I think NBC news pointed out that the reason why there were so many empty seats was because it was a subcommittee hearing. Not a full committee hearing like it should've been.

[Salus Maior]

What took him so long?

[Katganistan]

He rightly ripped them a new asshole; If the Senate also passes it, it will be funded to 2090, iirc.

[The Black Forrest]

Trying to live at my expense. Yes.

Ok prove it.

[The Black Forrest]

He rightly ripped them a new asshole; If the Senate also passes it, it will be funded to 2090, iirc.

Yup. I liked the "it took them 5 seconds to respond and you are going on 18 years."

When most of them are dead; they will open a little bit of money; set up some monument; wrap themselves in the flag and talk about compassionate conservatism at its best.

[The Rich Port]

I didn't like him compared to Colbert, but I found his speech genuinely moving and fiery. I think he made a difference, and I'm sure the FR's with him appreciate him almost as much as we do.

And yeah, thanks for passing the bill after a long time, not even bothering to show up to the hearing. Let no one forget just how much the people that didn't show up care about first responders.

[Communist Zombie Horde]

Jon Stewart is not one to talk! Besides we already spend a lot and look at north korea were military get too much money wasted! Military personnel are not special compared to armed citizenry and this form of elitism is not needed. Ignore this stupid TV funnyman.

[Napkizemlja]

Jon Stewart is not one to talk! Besides we already spend a lot and look at north korea were military get too much money wasted! Military personnel are not special compared to armed citizenry and this form of elitism is not needed. Ignore this stupid TV funnyman.

Most of the people at the scene were firefighters, EMT's, police officers and regular citizens.

I'm actually wondering if you're a parody account at this point.

[Communist Zombie Horde]

Jon Stewart is not one to talk! Besides we already spend a lot and look at north korea were military get too much money wasted! Military personnel are not special compared to armed citizenry and this form of elitism is not needed. Ignore this stupid TV funnyman.

Most of the people at the scene were firefighters, EMT's, police officers and regular citizens.

I'm actually wondering if you're a parody account at this point.

I read this earlier and didnt read it again. Sorry for the mistake- I may have a memory problem. 911 responders should have been reimbursed for their efforts. Not a satire.

[Scomagia]

Doubtful. Given you are relying on UNESCO numbers it's no wonder you have a skewed view of things.

My second source was SCImago Journal Rank, you didn't provide any source on the 60-70% numbers and, seeing that UNESCO isn't a think tank or an organization with left/right leanings i'm going to call you out on your use of a genetic fallacy here.

Publishing papers=/=developing a new drug or treatment.
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/a ... by_country


Free markets don't operate with Monopsonies. The fact that single payers are, well, single payer means they can demand below market prices.

Publishing papers is a crucial part of research. Those drugs and treatments wouldn't have existed if no one wrote a paper on them.

So beacuse they can demand lower prices for the rights to sell and manufacture that means it's not part of the free market?

Hmm, demanding lower prices for the rights to sell something beacuse you have a lot of money, I wonder why a store chain made in the free market never had that idea before?

Also, sense monopolies are indeed a problem born out of the free market, yes free markets do operate with monopolies.

And you all have lawmakers who believe communism works. Far more of them.

Not everything from communism was non functional or evil.

Socialized medicine being one such example.

I'm ashamed that Jon Stewart still exists, tbh.

I like Jon Stewart.

You're using Walmart, a company which has long received uncompetitive municiple, state, and federal tax breaks and incentives unavailable to smaller competitors, as an example of a company operating on a free market?

[Loben The 2nd]

That shows where the priorities of Congress truly are.

You’re surprised by this?

[Great Minarchistan]

I'm rather confused, are 9/11 responders begging for govt funding to take care of their health issues? For which reason specifically, them doing their job on an incident that has happened 18 years ago? Seems rather moronic ngl

[Fartsniffage]

I'm rather confused, are 9/11 responders begging for govt funding to take care of their health issues? For which reason specifically, them doing their job on an incident that has happened 18 years ago? Seems rather moronic ngl

I assume you think the VA should be dissolved too?

[Shofercia]

I'm rather confused, are 9/11 responders begging for govt funding to take care of their health issues? For which reason specifically, them doing their job on an incident that has happened 18 years ago? Seems rather moronic ngl

Their health issues resulted from them responding to the national emergency. Not funding them is rather moronic, because that'll lead to less people responding to national emergencies. Let's say that ISIS sympathizers attacked a library, and a librarian had a choice: help rescue kids from the library, or flee. As people with common sense, we want to encourage the librarian to help. If we refuse to cover his/her potential healthcare costs as a result of helping the kids, then we are doing the opposite, of what a sane society should do.

They weren't responding to the average emergency; they were responding to a terrorist attack. As Stewart properly pointed out: Al Qaeda didn't say "Death to Tribeca!" You want to incentivize people to respond, rather than to flee. If they responded in a textbook fashion, rather than rushing head first into danger, a lot more people would've died, but they would've had much fewer healthcare issues to deal with.

[Great Minarchistan]

I'm rather confused, are 9/11 responders begging for govt funding to take care of their health issues? For which reason specifically, them doing their job on an incident that has happened 18 years ago? Seems rather moronic ngl

I assume you think the VA should be dissolved too?

I assume the government already offers provisions for this? It's not like 9/11 was the first incident where firefighters got into collapsed buildings to save people.

[Fartsniffage]

I assume you think the VA should be dissolved too?

I assume the government already offers provisions for this? It's not like 9/11 was the first incident where firefighters got into collapsed buildings to save people.

If it did then Jon Stewart would never have had to make his speech.