MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

[Vassenor]

This forum has completely surrendered to a petty con artist and the party backing him.

He conned a Clinton out of a presidency - a most intriguing con. I think we call that an election in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

Voter suppression is indeed a con.

[Nea Byzantia]

He conned a Clinton out of a presidency - a most intriguing con. I think we call that an election in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

Voter suppression is indeed a con.

What voter suppression?

[Spirit of Hope]

This is a complete nonsense (and by now completely false as we know it) deflection from the fact that inviting any foreign government to meddle in the American democratic process is and has been impeachable offences since the fricken founding of the United States of America all the fricken way back to the fricken 1780's.

So you are saying Democrats ain't corrupt but Republicans and Donnie are? lol.

Nice what about ism, no one is saying Democrats don't commit crimes or all Republicans commit crimes. What he is saying is that President Trump has committed a crime that is worthy of being impeached.

[Vassenor]

Voter suppression is indeed a con.

What voter suppression?

The voter suppression that the GOP admitted to.

[Proctopeo]

Voter suppression is indeed a con.

What voter suppression?

Clinton's stupidity and overconfidence is voter suppression now

What voter suppression?

The voter suppression that the GOP admitted to.

>motherjones
opinion discarded

[Ngelmish]

Attempted murder is a crime in a metric fuckton of jurisdictions.

Uh huh, and what of it?

This is too easy.

Not if the defense is “I tried to do it and failed.”

Yeah, that still works. Trying to commit a crime isn't a crime.

You see, when you say, "Trying to commit a crime isn't a crime," and, for just one offhand example, attempted murder is a crime, you are, at best, guilty of a sloppy generalization. Bizarrely, rather than acknowledging your own carelessness, with posts that are close to back to back, you dishonestly try to shrug that off.

Why do you feel compelled to lie about things you've said, when the contradiction is apparent on the same page? Are you unaware that things you post can be read, and quoted to demonstrate dishonesty when you exhibit it?

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

This is a complete nonsense (and by now completely false as we know it) deflection from the fact that inviting any foreign government to meddle in the American democratic process is and has been impeachable offences since the fricken founding of the United States of America all the fricken way back to the fricken 1780's.

So you are saying Democrats ain't corrupt but Republicans and Donnie are? lol.

Corruption is one thing. Treason is another.

[Ifreann]

What voter suppression?

Clinton's stupidity and overconfidence is voter suppression now

The voter suppression that the GOP admitted to.

>motherjones
opinion discarded

Attorney General Brad Schimel suggests Donald Trump won Wisconsin because of the state's voter ID law
Wisconsin Republican connects voter ID, GOP wins
Schimel: Voter ID Helped Trump Win Wisconsin

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

What makes it political?

I am still searching for videos of outraged Democrats.

Don't. You are just submitting to the alt light echo chambers that spin a narrative that "Everyone on the left wing is exactly like this".

[San Lumen]

Clinton's stupidity and overconfidence is voter suppression now


>motherjones
opinion discarded

Attorney General Brad Schimel suggests Donald Trump won Wisconsin because of the state's voter ID law
Wisconsin Republican connects voter ID, GOP wins
Schimel: Voter ID Helped Trump Win Wisconsin

Not shocking at all. Republicans have admitted voter id helps them win elections

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

As I said if you want to continue to justify Donald Trump's recent interactions with various foreign governments regarding Mr. Biden's presidential campaign you will have to put the whole of the fricken Constitution in the fricken trash can. Do you wish to do that?
Edit: Not that the 200+ year old document founding the United States (and that he swore a solemn oath to defend) is worth any more than mere toilet paper to Donald J. Trump.

It wasn't worth much to most Presidents; they simply trample on it whenever it suits their interests to do so.

Doesn't make what he did anymore or less bad.

[Proctopeo]

Clinton's stupidity and overconfidence is voter suppression now


>motherjones
opinion discarded

Attorney General Brad Schimel suggests Donald Trump won Wisconsin because of the state's voter ID law
Wisconsin Republican connects voter ID, GOP wins
Schimel: Voter ID Helped Trump Win Wisconsin

And this paints a slightly different picture: an uncertain picture. And one that says nothing of Michigan and Pennsylvania, either.

Though I do question the postulation that voter ID constitutes "voter suppression". Largely unnecessary, as it doesn't work to stop most voter fraud (it can't stop the Chi Town "vote early vote often" principle, nothing can stop that), but I fail to see it as "suppression".

[Gormwood]

Attorney General Brad Schimel suggests Donald Trump won Wisconsin because of the state's voter ID law
Wisconsin Republican connects voter ID, GOP wins
Schimel: Voter ID Helped Trump Win Wisconsin

And this paints a slightly different picture: an uncertain picture. And one that says nothing of Michigan and Pennsylvania, either.

Though I do question the postulation that voter ID constitutes "voter suppression". Largely unnecessary, as it doesn't work to stop most voter fraud (it can't stop the Chi Town "vote early vote often" principle, nothing can stop that), but I fail to see it as "suppression".

Because focusing on individual voters does nothing to stop fraud involving voting machines or ballot counts. It's about suppressing turnout of probable Democratic voters.

[Spirit of Hope]

Attorney General Brad Schimel suggests Donald Trump won Wisconsin because of the state's voter ID law
Wisconsin Republican connects voter ID, GOP wins
Schimel: Voter ID Helped Trump Win Wisconsin

And this paints a slightly different picture: an uncertain picture. And one that says nothing of Michigan and Pennsylvania, either.

Though I do question the postulation that voter ID constitutes "voter suppression". Largely unnecessary, as it doesn't work to stop most voter fraud (it can't stop the Chi Town "vote early vote often" principle, nothing can stop that), but I fail to see it as "suppression".

I'm on my phone so I can't link the specifics, but Democrat voters are far less likely to have an ID than Republican voters. This means an ID requirement to vote will turn away more Democrats than Republicans. Though to be fair it probably didnt make a huge difference for the Presidential election.

[Ifreann]

Attorney General Brad Schimel suggests Donald Trump won Wisconsin because of the state's voter ID law
Wisconsin Republican connects voter ID, GOP wins
Schimel: Voter ID Helped Trump Win Wisconsin

And this paints a slightly different picture: an uncertain picture. And one that says nothing of Michigan and Pennsylvania, either.

Though I do question the postulation that voter ID constitutes "voter suppression". Largely unnecessary, as it doesn't work to stop most voter fraud (it can't stop the Chi Town "vote early vote often" principle, nothing can stop that), but I fail to see it as "suppression".

I'm sure there's an election thread around here somewhere where you could start a discussion about how/whether Republicans use Voter ID laws to suppress votes.

[Thermodolia]

So you are saying Democrats ain't corrupt but Republicans and Donnie are? lol.

Corruption is one thing. Treason is another.

Trump hasn’t committed treason either

[Thermodolia]

And this paints a slightly different picture: an uncertain picture. And one that says nothing of Michigan and Pennsylvania, either.

Though I do question the postulation that voter ID constitutes "voter suppression". Largely unnecessary, as it doesn't work to stop most voter fraud (it can't stop the Chi Town "vote early vote often" principle, nothing can stop that), but I fail to see it as "suppression".

I'm on my phone so I can't link the specifics, but Democrat voters are far less likely to have an ID than Republican voters. This means an ID requirement to vote will turn away more Democrats than Republicans. Though to be fair it probably didnt make a huge difference for the Presidential election.

This can be fixed by making voter IDs easier to obtain

[Gormwood]

I'm on my phone so I can't link the specifics, but Democrat voters are far less likely to have an ID than Republican voters. This means an ID requirement to vote will turn away more Democrats than Republicans. Though to be fair it probably didnt make a huge difference for the Presidential election.

This can be fixed by making voter IDs easier to obtain

Which most red states are deliberately going in the other direction on, limiting the number of locations and operating hours one can obtain valid ID to bar working class people from them.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I'm on my phone so I can't link the specifics, but Democrat voters are far less likely to have an ID than Republican voters. This means an ID requirement to vote will turn away more Democrats than Republicans. Though to be fair it probably didnt make a huge difference for the Presidential election.

This can be fixed by making voter IDs easier to obtain

Meanwhile in Sweden: Valid ID's for voting: Vote card that the national post office mails everybody when it's due, and any one of these: Driver's license, passport, national ID card, bringing your mother along to verify your ID...
Why is this so difficult over there?

[Cannot think of a name]

This can be fixed by making voter IDs easier to obtain

Meanwhile in Sweden: Valid ID's for voting: Vote card that the national post office mails everybody when it's due, and any one of these: Driver's license, passport, national ID card, bringing your mother along to verify your ID...
Why is this so difficult over there?

Because they're not trying to solve the problem of illegal voting, they're trying to solve the problem of Democrats voting.

[Gormwood]

Still rekking Jyna.

Many Americans haven't felt the burden of Trump's tariffs. They're about to

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It's like a cartton depiction of a scam.

A Trump hotel mystery: Giant reservations followed by empty rooms

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And things just keep getting more interesting.

Another whistleblower has apparently come forward alleging that 'inappropriate' steps were taking to influence an audit of Trump's taxes

Either Donny has a wet toilet paper ego, or there's some serious shit waiting to be uncovered.

[Cannot think of a name]

Still rekking Jyna.

Many Americans haven't felt the burden of Trump's tariffs. They're about to

---

It's like a cartton depiction of a scam.

A Trump hotel mystery: Giant reservations followed by empty rooms

---

And things just keep getting more interesting.

Another whistleblower has apparently come forward alleging that 'inappropriate' steps were taking to influence an audit of Trump's taxes

Either Donny has a wet toilet paper ego, or there's some serious shit waiting to be uncovered.

I'm still going with the former, just knowing what a real estate developer's tax returns look like. Even though it is perfectly normal and by design that they essentially show the developer taking a loss every year that doesn't really reflect their actual worth and he just can't stand for people to see that.

Also, is this the third whistleblower or the second one again?

[Thermodolia]

Still rekking Jyna.

Many Americans haven't felt the burden of Trump's tariffs. They're about to

---

It's like a cartton depiction of a scam.

A Trump hotel mystery: Giant reservations followed by empty rooms

---

And things just keep getting more interesting.

Another whistleblower has apparently come forward alleging that 'inappropriate' steps were taking to influence an audit of Trump's taxes

Either Donny has a wet toilet paper ego, or there's some serious shit waiting to be uncovered.

I'm still going with the former, just knowing what a real estate developer's tax returns look like. Even though it is perfectly normal and by design that they essentially show the developer taking a loss every year that doesn't really reflect their actual worth and he just can't stand for people to see that.

Also, is this the third whistleblower or the second one again?

Wait there’s two of them?

[Nea Byzantia]

What voter suppression?

The voter suppression that the GOP admitted to.

Mother Jones, really? Is that the best you got?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I'm still going with the former, just knowing what a real estate developer's tax returns look like. Even though it is perfectly normal and by design that they essentially show the developer taking a loss every year that doesn't really reflect their actual worth and he just can't stand for people to see that.

Also, is this the third whistleblower or the second one again?

Wait there’s two of them?

Ye asked for this.