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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:00 pm

Telconi wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Tbh you don't defeat a personality cult with facts. You defeat it by waiting until the object of the personality cult dies then hopefully some saner leader goes a denouncing the previous one. Or public discontent reaches such levels that the supreme leader gets lynched a la Ceaucescu. <.>


What's funny is you think this is a personality cult. And not policy based preferences for a superior candidate.

Funny thing is, a person deep into a personality cult would justify their fundamental beliefs just like that.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:04 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
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What's funny is you think this is a personality cult. And not policy based preferences for a superior candidate.

Funny thing is, a person deep into a personality cult would justify their fundamental beliefs just like that.


So would a person with justified beliefs. But you keep on doing you.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:12 pm


They aren’t would be mass shooters, they themselves claimed to be fighters in a civil war, they are nothing more than keyboard warriors who couldn’t walk up 10 flights of stairs let alone fight in a war
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:14 pm

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They aren’t would be mass shooters, they themselves claimed to be fighters in a civil war, they are nothing more than keyboard warriors who couldn’t walk up 10 flights of stairs let alone fight in a war

Hence why I give no credence to online comments. If they meant anything the Governor of my state and mayor of my city would be different people

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Postby Philjia » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:33 pm

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They aren’t would be mass shooters, they themselves claimed to be fighters in a civil war, they are nothing more than keyboard warriors who couldn’t walk up 10 flights of stairs let alone fight in a war

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:35 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:They aren’t would be mass shooters, they themselves claimed to be fighters in a civil war, they are nothing more than keyboard warriors who couldn’t walk up 10 flights of stairs let alone fight in a war

"Man arrested after unsuccessfully trying to assault local Wal-Mart with a plank with nails hammered through it"

Obviously plank with nails falls under the 2nd amendment so brandishing it in public is legal until the nails hits someone. <.>
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Postby Philjia » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:36 pm

Anyone who actually tried to engage in a meaningful rebellion against the federal government would probably end up besieged and shot by the FBI like everyone else who's tried it recently.
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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:38 pm


Christ mate, give it a rest. Pointing to comments and giving absurd, exaggerated claims about the people who made them accomplishes literally nothing, except maybe damaging your long-term mental health.
You're wasting your time, those who agree with you on this always will, and those who don't always won't. I suggest you find a new hobby. Or, at least, move this to a blog.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:44 pm

Philjia wrote:Anyone who actually tried to engage in a meaningful rebellion against the federal government would probably end up besieged and shot by the FBI like everyone else who's tried it recently.


Heck, sometimes the FBI just kinda does it.
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Postby Nakena » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:54 pm

Philjia wrote:Anyone who actually tried to engage in a meaningful rebellion against the federal government would probably end up besieged and shot by the FBI like everyone else who's tried it recently.


Right now it seems more rogue elements of the FBI are itself involved in a developing rebellion against the federal government or aiding it...

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:03 pm

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Philjia wrote:Anyone who actually tried to engage in a meaningful rebellion against the federal government would probably end up besieged and shot by the FBI like everyone else who's tried it recently.


Right now it seems more rogue elements of the FBI are itself involved in a developing rebellion against the federal government or aiding it...


Rogue elements? Like who?
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Postby Audioslavia » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:38 pm

Valrifell wrote:
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Joke's on you I already have.


You know, I try not to pity people for their parents, but I guess I'm making an exception.


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Postby Philjia » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:08 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Philjia wrote:Anyone who actually tried to engage in a meaningful rebellion against the federal government would probably end up besieged and shot by the FBI like everyone else who's tried it recently.


Heck, sometimes the FBI just kinda does it.

American law enforcement does tend to shoot first, and then not ask questions about it later.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:11 pm

Philjia wrote:Anyone who actually tried to engage in a meaningful rebellion against the federal government would probably end up besieged and shot by the FBI like everyone else who's tried it recently.

A genuine rebellion will be foreign-backed and well-organized. Recent attempts are largely done by overconfident lunatics.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:12 pm

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San Lumen wrote:I was merely trying to show how trump is hurting farmers.

So you’re fine with tariffs just as long as Trump isn’t the one doing them?

The way Trump is going about his tariffs isn't the right way to do it.
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Philjia wrote:Anyone who actually tried to engage in a meaningful rebellion against the federal government would probably end up besieged and shot by the FBI like everyone else who's tried it recently.

A genuine rebellion will be foreign-backed and well-organized. Recent attempts are largely done by overconfident lunatics.


There isnt going to be a rebellion just like there wouldn't be a civil war if he is removed from office.

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Postby Telconi » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So you’re fine with tariffs just as long as Trump isn’t the one doing them?

The way Trump is going about his tariffs isn't the right way to do it.
Northern Davincia wrote:A genuine rebellion will be foreign-backed and well-organized. Recent attempts are largely done by overconfident lunatics.


There isnt going to be a rebellion just like there wouldn't be a civil war if he is removed from office.


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Postby New haven america » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:24 pm

I retract my earlier statement of saying that this whole situation is like being trapped in a car about to be in a crash, because I went through one today and I can safely say that that crash was no where near as scary as Trump's presidency.
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Postby Shrillland » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:25 pm

New haven america wrote:I retract my earlier statement of saying that this whole situation is like being trapped in a car about to be in a crash, because I went through one today and I can safely say that that crash was no where near as scary as Trump's presidency.


Sorry to hear that, man. Hope you're all right.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:27 pm

New haven america wrote:I retract my earlier statement of saying that this whole situation is like being trapped in a car about to be in a crash, because I went through one today and I can safely say that that crash was no where near as scary as Trump's presidency.

Oh my. So sorry to hear that. I hope your ok

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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:30 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So you’re fine with tariffs just as long as Trump isn’t the one doing them?

The way Trump is going about his tariffs isn't the right way to do it.
Northern Davincia wrote:A genuine rebellion will be foreign-backed and well-organized. Recent attempts are largely done by overconfident lunatics.


There isnt going to be a rebellion just like there wouldn't be a civil war if he is removed from office.

I think it would take more than this debacle to start a civil war, but I won't get my hopes up.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:32 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:The way Trump is going about his tariffs isn't the right way to do it.


There isnt going to be a rebellion just like there wouldn't be a civil war if he is removed from office.

I think it would take more than this debacle to start a civil war, but I won't get my hopes up.


There isnt going to be a civil war. Some hardcore Trump supporters might attempt something if he is convicted or loses reelection but they will not get far.

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Postby Telconi » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:33 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I think it would take more than this debacle to start a civil war, but I won't get my hopes up.


There isnt going to be a civil war. Some hardcore Trump supporters might attempt something if he is convicted or loses reelection but they will not get far.


Hey now, nothing wrong with dreaming of a better future.
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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:08 pm

The Intelligence Community Inspector General debunks false assertions made by Trump and several Republicans.

Well now, that's a slap in their faces for sure, and undermines their credibility although given certain people don't care about the facts, I doubt it'll change their minds.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:09 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
There isnt going to be a civil war. Some hardcore Trump supporters might attempt something if he is convicted or loses reelection but they will not get far.


Hey now, nothing wrong with dreaming of a better future.


A modern civil war won’t be like the organized one of the 1860’s. It’d be more like the shit show that is syria
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:10 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Hey now, nothing wrong with dreaming of a better future.


A modern civil war won’t be like the organized one of the 1860’s. It’d be more like the shit show that is syria

Only because the 1860 one wasn't a civil war. It was a total war.
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