MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

[Telconi]

Implying ol' Mitch would ever allow a convicting vote to happen.

He has too. It’s one vote he cannot prevent but republicans would never vote to convict even if Trump committed murder

... he can't prevent it and yet it won't happen. How does this make sense?

[San Lumen]

He has too. It’s one vote he cannot prevent but republicans would never vote to convict even if Trump committed murder

... he can't prevent it and yet it won't happen. How does this make sense?

If that house votes to impeach the senate has to hold a trial and conviction vote. If he doesn’t Mcconnell would be saying Republicans don’t respect the constitution whatsoever or free and fair elections and believe themselves above the law

[Thuzbekistan]

If Trump were to be impeached, the offences would also require the impeachment of Pence.

So, president Pelosi.

Republicans will never vote to convict. He could try to drop nuclear weapons on Chicago or Baltimore or assault or shoot a secret service agent and they would vote to acquit

[Telconi]

... he can't prevent it and yet it won't happen. How does this make sense?

If that house votes to impeach the senate has to hold a trial and conviction vote. If he doesn’t Mcconnell would be saying Republicans don’t respect the constitution whatsoever or free and fair elections and believe themselves above the law

They have to hold a convicting vote, that seems pretty rigged huh?

[Kowani]

... he can't prevent it and yet it won't happen. How does this make sense?

If that house votes to impeach the senate has to hold a trial and conviction vote. If he doesn’t Mcconnell would be saying Republicans don’t respect the constitution whatsoever or free and fair elections and believe themselves above the law

“Free and fair elections” Oh, for fucks sake.

[Ifreann]

Exactly. Work across the aisles in Congress and cut Trump out. Move forward on immigration without him. Mitch McConnell is up for re-election, start making everything that doesn't happen his fault.

Why do you think that Democrats can work with Trump, who wants to send people born in America back to the countries they originally came from, but they can't work with the Republicans in Congress?

Because thinking you can get enough Republican support in the Senate to pass something Trump opposes while he’s very popular with the base this close to an election is laughably naive.

So instead the thing to do this close to an election is kowtow, give in to Trump's demands and let him claim victory, lie on the ground so he can pose for photos standing over his kill.

You are not going to save anyone from Trump by giving him what he wants.

Thinking thinking you can get enough support from Republicans in the Senate and the House to overcome a veto from Trump, is just plain absurd. And constantly attacking McConnell will certainly not lead to him derailing any efforts the Dems make in the Senate, no sir, he’s not all a vengeful snake. Forgiving and full of integrity, that’s the McConnell I know.

Mitch McConnell wants to stay in power. Threaten that and he'll find it in his heart to compromise.

[San Lumen]

If that house votes to impeach the senate has to hold a trial and conviction vote. If he doesn’t Mcconnell would be saying Republicans don’t respect the constitution whatsoever or free and fair elections and believe themselves above the law

They have to hold a convicting vote, that seems pretty rigged huh?

They would be completely thumbing their nose at the constitution but that doesn’t matter one iota to you. This coming from someone who said the peaceful transfer of power shouldn’t be respected

[Telconi]

They have to hold a convicting vote, that seems pretty rigged huh?

They would be completely thumbing their nose at the constitution but that doesn’t matter one iota to you. This coming from someone who said the peaceful transfer of power shouldn’t be respected

Imagine believing the acquitting a person for impeachment is unconstitutional.

[Loben The 2nd]

They have to hold a convicting vote, that seems pretty rigged huh?

They would be completely thumbing their nose at the constitution but that doesn’t matter one iota to you. This coming from someone who said the peaceful transfer of power shouldn’t be respected

looking through your post history, in the days after the election you kept calling for the electoral collage to be faithless.

So which piece of the hypocrisy pie do you want?

[Ism]

Because thinking you can get enough Republican support in the Senate to pass something Trump opposes while he’s very popular with the base this close to an election is laughably naive.

So instead the thing to do this close to an election is kowtow, give in to Trump's demands and let him claim victory, lie on the ground so he can pose for photos standing over his kill.

You are not going to save anyone from Trump by giving him what he wants.

Thinking thinking you can get enough support from Republicans in the Senate and the House to overcome a veto from Trump, is just plain absurd. And constantly attacking McConnell will certainly not lead to him derailing any efforts the Dems make in the Senate, no sir, he’s not all a vengeful snake. Forgiving and full of integrity, that’s the McConnell I know.

Mitch McConnell wants to stay in power. Threaten that and he'll find it in his heart to compromise.

Ah yes, compromise=kowtowing. That’s a healthy attitude for a democracy.

As for the second part of your post, your plan not only relies on Congressional Republicans turning on Trump, but also on McConnell. lol

[Telconi]

They would be completely thumbing their nose at the constitution but that doesn’t matter one iota to you. This coming from someone who said the peaceful transfer of power shouldn’t be respected

looking through your post history, in the days after the election you kept calling for the electoral collage to be faithless.

So which piece of the hypocrisy pie do you want?

He ate the whole thing already.

[Vassenor]

So instead the thing to do this close to an election is kowtow, give in to Trump's demands and let him claim victory, lie on the ground so he can pose for photos standing over his kill.

You are not going to save anyone from Trump by giving him what he wants.

Mitch McConnell wants to stay in power. Threaten that and he'll find it in his heart to compromise.

Ah yes, compromise=kowtowing. That’s a healthy attitude for a democracy.

As for the second part of your post, your plan not only relies on Congressional Republicans turning on Trump, but also on McConnell. lol

So what would be an acceptable compromise to you?

[Gormwood]

Republicans will never vote to convict. He could try to drop nuclear weapons on Chicago or Baltimore or assault or shoot a secret service agent and they would vote to acquit

Justin Amash confirmed outright that the Republicans are cucked to Donnie and his base.

[Gormwood]

They would be completely thumbing their nose at the constitution but that doesn’t matter one iota to you. This coming from someone who said the peaceful transfer of power shouldn’t be respected

looking through your post history, in the days after the election you kept calling for the electoral collage to be faithless.

So which piece of the hypocrisy pie do you want?

Abolishing the electoral college is such an unpopular position.

[Telconi]

Justin Amash confirmed outright that the Republicans are cucked to Donnie and his base.

Representatives are representing their voters! Waaaah!

[Valrifell]

If Trump were to be impeached, the offences would also require the impeachment of Pence.

So, president Pelosi.

I'd like to take the opportunity to drink excessively heavily.

Depending on how quick this all goes, it could be a Pence apointee as President or Pelosi picking someone and resigning, I don't think she wants the post otherwise she would have tried for it.

[ImperialRussia]

Raising to 100 percent

[Valrifell]

Because thinking you can get enough Republican support in the Senate to pass something Trump opposes while he’s very popular with the base this close to an election is laughably naive.

So instead the thing to do this close to an election is kowtow, give in to Trump's demands and let him claim victory, lie on the ground so he can pose for photos standing over his kill.

You are not going to save anyone from Trump by giving him what he wants.

Thinking thinking you can get enough support from Republicans in the Senate and the House to overcome a veto from Trump, is just plain absurd. And constantly attacking McConnell will certainly not lead to him derailing any efforts the Dems make in the Senate, no sir, he’s not all a vengeful snake. Forgiving and full of integrity, that’s the McConnell I know.

Mitch McConnell wants to stay in power. Threaten that and he'll find it in his heart to compromise.

I find your views on this subject incredibly naive. Trump has the Republicans by the crotch, it's either go with hik or get your ass a well-funded primary challenge endorsed by a president popular with Republicans. McConnell is up for re-election in a ruby red state he is 110% not going anywhere. Being the self-moralizing puritan in this case just increases the number of kids in cages.

It's not all or nothing, either. It's not kowtow to Trump vs. Doing nothing or cackling manically with him.

But frankly I'm skeptical the Dems are even in a position to do anything given who runs the RNC, it'll take a heckova lot more leverage than the Dems have now to make any meaningful progress on immigration because McConnell is known to stall legislation for shits and giggles and Trump is... well, you know.

[Valrifell]

Justin Amash confirmed outright that the Republicans are cucked to Donnie and his base.

Representatives are representing their voters! Waaaah!

...

Representatives are supposed to be elected for different reasons and are supposed to be a check. If Trump's agenda misaligns with what a Reps constituency wants and they go with the man, there's a problem.

[Telconi]

Representatives are representing their voters! Waaaah!

...

Representatives are supposed to be elected for different reasons and are supposed to be a check. If Trump's agenda misaligns with what a Reps constituency wants and they go with the man, there's a problem.

And does this happen?

[Vassenor]

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Representatives are supposed to be elected for different reasons and are supposed to be a check. If Trump's agenda misaligns with what a Reps constituency wants and they go with the man, there's a problem.

And does this happen?

-looks at how unpopular Trump is rn-

[Valrifell]

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Representatives are supposed to be elected for different reasons and are supposed to be a check. If Trump's agenda misaligns with what a Reps constituency wants and they go with the man, there's a problem.

And does this happen?

I'm not up do date on the nuances of every Republican controlled district, sorry.

[Gormwood]

And does this happen?

I'm not up do date on the nuances of every Republican controlled district, sorry.

Not like he would care even if you did, he just throws passive-aggressive nonsequiturs to make apologisms for Trump.

[Wallenburg]

... he can't prevent it and yet it won't happen. How does this make sense?

If that house votes to impeach the senate has to hold a trial and conviction vote. If he doesn’t Mcconnell would be saying Republicans don’t respect the constitution whatsoever or free and fair elections and believe themselves above the law

And? You don't think McConnell breaks the law whenever it suits his interests?

[Ifreann]

So instead the thing to do this close to an election is kowtow, give in to Trump's demands and let him claim victory, lie on the ground so he can pose for photos standing over his kill.

You are not going to save anyone from Trump by giving him what he wants.

Mitch McConnell wants to stay in power. Threaten that and he'll find it in his heart to compromise.

Ah yes, compromise=kowtowing. That’s a healthy attitude for a democracy.

You can call it compromise, but how do you think Trump would play it in his rallies? Total victory over the loser Democrats. I mean, he'll say that anyway, but it'll seem less false if they have compromised with him.

And recall with whom you are proposing to seek a compromise. Trump has opened concentration camps and apparently thinks that only white Americans belong in America.

As for the second part of your post, your plan not only relies on Congressional Republicans turning on Trump, but also on McConnell. lol

In order to stay in office themselves, yes. Do you think that the GOP has any more loyalty to Trump than Trump has to them?

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So instead the thing to do this close to an election is kowtow, give in to Trump's demands and let him claim victory, lie on the ground so he can pose for photos standing over his kill.

You are not going to save anyone from Trump by giving him what he wants.

Mitch McConnell wants to stay in power. Threaten that and he'll find it in his heart to compromise.

I find your views on this subject incredibly naive. Trump has the Republicans by the crotch, it's either go with hik or get your ass a well-funded primary challenge endorsed by a president popular with Republicans. McConnell is up for re-election in a ruby red state he is 110% not going anywhere.

McConnell wins by massively outspending his opponent. So Trump couldn't effectively primary McConnell. He won't spend his own money and McConnell has spent his career attracting donors. Rich donors. But even so, he only barely wins. He won "ruby red" Kentucky with only 56% of the vote last time. And that was a surprisingly good performance.

Being the self-moralizing puritan

The what?

in this case just increases the number of kids in cages.

And they'll all be saved if Trump gets his Wall? I think not.