Greece is the Word(An Election Thread)

[Dresderstan]

https://mobile.twitter.com/EuropeElects ... 7077924866

So apparently among 18-24 yo voters, 13% would vote for the Golden Dawn party, and 30% for ND.

[Shrillland]

https://mobile.twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1135277447077924866

So apparently among 18-24 yo voters, 13% would vote for the Golden Dawn party, and 30% for ND.

Yeah, they're averaging 7% overall right now. This is what happens when economies collapse and the EU insists on cutting to the bone before offering help...that and the Greeks have always been prone to going to extremes in time of crisis.

[Major-Tom]

ND ruined Greece economically and socially, though there were other people to blame as well. Tspiras has failed to deliver on most of his promises, in part because he simply had no way of delivering, and in part because he caved into both internal and external pressures.

Despite his relatively mediocre performance, I'd be inclined to take SYRIZA over a party that was the poster child for mismanagement and corruption for decades.

And don't get me started on the centre-left coalition, it's PASOK with a friendlier face, Greece can do better than that.

[Diopolis]

ND ruined Greece economically and socially, though there were other people to blame as well. Tspiras has failed to deliver on most of his promises, in part because he simply had no way of delivering, and in part because he caved into both internal and external pressures.

Despite his relatively mediocre performance, I'd be inclined to take SYRIZA over a party that was the poster child for mismanagement and corruption for decades.

And don't get me started on the centre-left coalition, it's PASOK with a friendlier face, Greece can do better than that.

Is there anyone on the ballot Greece can't do better than?

[Major-Tom]

ND ruined Greece economically and socially, though there were other people to blame as well. Tspiras has failed to deliver on most of his promises, in part because he simply had no way of delivering, and in part because he caved into both internal and external pressures.

Despite his relatively mediocre performance, I'd be inclined to take SYRIZA over a party that was the poster child for mismanagement and corruption for decades.

And don't get me started on the centre-left coalition, it's PASOK with a friendlier face, Greece can do better than that.

Is there anyone on the ballot Greece can't do better than?

...Yeah, you got me there tbh.

[Diopolis]

Is there anyone on the ballot Greece can't do better than?

...Yeah, you got me there tbh.

Even for politicians, it's a pretty mediocre list. Golden Dawn is too crazy even for me, Greek Solution just smells of corruption and foreign influence, the communists are, well, communists, and the rest are clones of either PASOK or the people who started the problem in the first place.

[Nea Byzantia]

You keep repeating those "cultural and religious" ties as if they had some deep, game-changing meaning in international politics. Not only is this not true - You do realize, I hope, that Russia is currently in an ongoing military confrontation with two countries it shares much, much closer "cultural and religious ties" with than with Greece* - I am really wondering what those ties you keep talking about are supposed to be, beyond the Orthodox church that is. Greece and Russia share no borders, have never been part of the same country/state/empire, haven't had any significant population intermingling; not even the languages are particularly closely related. Greece has never been part of what Russia defines as its key strategic interests (the Middle East and the Bosporus Strait however, are of crucial importance to Moscow, hence why Turkey will always be more relevant to them than Greece).

You're completely forgetting about the relationship between Byzantium and Rus - which started off hostile, but warmed up eventually, once the Rus adopted Orthodox Christianity - Russian Civilization only picked up after they embraced our religion and our culture. Its true, their geopolitical focus is on Constantinople/Istanbul, which has been occupied by the Turks for the last 500 years; but culturally and historically they are tied to us, since Byzantine/Rhomaioi Civilization is the basis of Greek culture for the last 2,000 years.

I can just as easily - much more easily, in fact - make a case about ανηκομεν εις την Δυσιν, Greece's "inherent connection to the West" or whatever by starting to monologue about Athenian democracy and philosophy as the birthplace of Western identity, the French and German Philhellenes, the Bavarian kings, Venizelism, EU membership etc.

This is the usual pro-Western line, which looks to Athens; I prefer to look to Constantinople.

I tell you what I think, this whole irrational fascination with Russia is a leftover from the Ottoman era when the idea that there was a powerful and independent Orthodox monarchy somewhere in the distant North while the entirety of the other Orthodox peoples were subjects of the Sultan was an intriguing fantasy in the minds of many Greeks. Then in the 20th Century the Soviet Union played the same role of being this distant and vaguely-understood benevolent power in the minds of the left-wingers. Kinda like the American and French Revolutions inspired other European societies to start national revolutions against the old monarchies. It always remained a fantasy that ultimately led to very litte however and that is absolutely no basis for deciding modern-day foreign affairs.

I think you misunderstand the motives of the more pro-Russian camp in Greek politics; its closely tied up with nostalgia for Byzantium, and since the Russian Tsars claimed to to uphold the Byzantine Legacy - and came the closest to doing so, whatever you think of them - a lot of Greeks admired them; and wanted to align with them, because of all the Great Powers, they're the only one that shared our values and culture; in other words, they're the only Orthodox Power. I gather from previous comments that you're not religious, and lean more towards secularism and liberalism; thus its natural for you to want to align with the West - who is more in line with your values; and to not really give a damn about the whole Orthodox Power thing. You probably also think the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire was archaic and tyrannical. This divide is nothing new.

In short, you and I are coming at this from two completely divergent views, with very different historical and philosophical presuppositions and implications. We'd have to get on the same page about those things, prior to continuing this discussion.

[Painisia]

Ah, this election does not have parties which I am fond of. The ND has breeder incompetent corrupt politicians and Syriza has not kept their election promises. But, on the grounds of my political beliefs, I`ll go with the Nea Demokratia. Even if they are Pro-European and corrupt

No politicans in Greece has ever been a saint..

[Novus America]

You keep repeating those "cultural and religious" ties as if they had some deep, game-changing meaning in international politics. Not only is this not true - You do realize, I hope, that Russia is currently in an ongoing military confrontation with two countries it shares much, much closer "cultural and religious ties" with than with Greece* - I am really wondering what those ties you keep talking about are supposed to be, beyond the Orthodox church that is. Greece and Russia share no borders, have never been part of the same country/state/empire, haven't had any significant population intermingling; not even the languages are particularly closely related. Greece has never been part of what Russia defines as its key strategic interests (the Middle East and the Bosporus Strait however, are of crucial importance to Moscow, hence why Turkey will always be more relevant to them than Greece).

You're completely forgetting about the relationship between Byzantium and Rus - which started off hostile, but warmed up eventually, once the Rus adopted Orthodox Christianity - Russian Civilization only picked up after they embraced our religion and our culture. Its true, their geopolitical focus is on Constantinople/Istanbul, which has been occupied by the Turks for the last 500 years; but culturally and historically they are tied to us, since Byzantine/Rhomaioi Civilization is the basis of Greek culture for the last 2,000 years.

I can just as easily - much more easily, in fact - make a case about ανηκομεν εις την Δυσιν, Greece's "inherent connection to the West" or whatever by starting to monologue about Athenian democracy and philosophy as the birthplace of Western identity, the French and German Philhellenes, the Bavarian kings, Venizelism, EU membership etc.

This is the usual pro-Western line, which looks to Athens; I prefer to look to Constantinople.

I tell you what I think, this whole irrational fascination with Russia is a leftover from the Ottoman era when the idea that there was a powerful and independent Orthodox monarchy somewhere in the distant North while the entirety of the other Orthodox peoples were subjects of the Sultan was an intriguing fantasy in the minds of many Greeks. Then in the 20th Century the Soviet Union played the same role of being this distant and vaguely-understood benevolent power in the minds of the left-wingers. Kinda like the American and French Revolutions inspired other European societies to start national revolutions against the old monarchies. It always remained a fantasy that ultimately led to very litte however and that is absolutely no basis for deciding modern-day foreign affairs.

I think you misunderstand the motives of the more pro-Russian camp in Greek politics; its closely tied up with nostalgia for Byzantium, and since the Russian Tsars claimed to to uphold the Byzantine Legacy - and came the closest to doing so, whatever you think of them - a lot of Greeks admired them; and wanted to align with them, because of all the Great Powers, they're the only one that shared our values and culture; in other words, they're the only Orthodox Power. I gather from previous comments that you're not religious, and lean more towards secularism and liberalism; thus its natural for you to want to align with the West - who is more in line with your values; and to not really give a damn about the whole Orthodox Power thing. You probably also think the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire was archaic and tyrannical. This divide is nothing new.

In short, you and I are coming at this from two completely divergent views, with very different historical and philosophical presuppositions and implications. We'd have to get on the same page about those things, prior to continuing this discussion.

Oh we are aware you believe some sense of Orthodox Brotherhood outweighs any and all other concerns, but you have failed to explain why this is a rational belief.

How will this fix Greece’s domestic problems?
Why is this a good basis for a relationship (especially when Russia has fought two wars against Orthodox countries and is allied with Erdogan)?
You do realize religion is a poor basis for alliances as well right?
(Countries sharing the same religion often fight).
If religion is is the basis why not be friends with Ukraine and Georgia instead?
You do realize that the Kievan Rus Byzantine relationship failed to save the Byzantine Empire as well right?
That the ERE is dead, not possibly coming back, and Russia is absolutely not going to help it do so?

Relevant
https://images.app.goo.gl/WxLCBA8KjxE1Nc3w8

[Vistulange]

You're completely forgetting about the relationship between Byzantium and Rus - which started off hostile, but warmed up eventually, once the Rus adopted Orthodox Christianity - Russian Civilization only picked up after they embraced our religion and our culture. Its true, their geopolitical focus is on Constantinople/Istanbul, which has been occupied by the Turks for the last 500 years; but culturally and historically they are tied to us, since Byzantine/Rhomaioi Civilization is the basis of Greek culture for the last 2,000 years.





This is the usual pro-Western line, which looks to Athens; I prefer to look to Constantinople.




I think you misunderstand the motives of the more pro-Russian camp in Greek politics; its closely tied up with nostalgia for Byzantium, and since the Russian Tsars claimed to to uphold the Byzantine Legacy - and came the closest to doing so, whatever you think of them - a lot of Greeks admired them; and wanted to align with them, because of all the Great Powers, they're the only one that shared our values and culture; in other words, they're the only Orthodox Power. I gather from previous comments that you're not religious, and lean more towards secularism and liberalism; thus its natural for you to want to align with the West - who is more in line with your values; and to not really give a damn about the whole Orthodox Power thing. You probably also think the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire was archaic and tyrannical. This divide is nothing new.

In short, you and I are coming at this from two completely divergent views, with very different historical and philosophical presuppositions and implications. We'd have to get on the same page about those things, prior to continuing this discussion.

Oh we are aware you believe some sense of Orthodox Brotherhood outweighs any and all other concerns, but you have failed to explain why this is a rational belief.

How will this fix Greece’s domestic problems?
Why is this a good basis for a relationship (especially when Russia has fought two wars against Orthodox countries and is allied with Erdogan)?
You do realize religion is a poor basis for alliances as well right?
(Countries sharing the same religion often fight).
If religion is is the basis why not be friends with Ukraine and Georgia instead?
You do realize that the Kieran Rus Byzantine relationship failed to save the Byzantine Empire as well right?
That the ERE is dead, not possibly coming back, and Russia is absolutely not going to help it do so?

Relevant
https://images.app.goo.gl/WxLCBA8KjxE1Nc3w8

I swear, this fascination with long-dead empires and days long gone by is unhealthy.

The Roman Empire is dead. Gone. A part of the world's history, no more.
The Ottoman Empire is dead. Gone. A part of the world's history, no more.

This idea of seeing either of these bastions of civilisation, as the paragons of whatever one should strive to be, is nothing but a more fanciful way of saying "things were better back in my day". No, they weren't. You just aren't accustomed to today. Yesteryear was just as shit as this year, except we tend to see the past with rose-tinted glasses.

[Nea Byzantia]

Oh we are aware you believe some sense of Orthodox Brotherhood outweighs any and all other concerns, but you have failed to explain why this is a rational belief.

How will this fix Greece’s domestic problems?
Why is this a good basis for a relationship (especially when Russia has fought two wars against Orthodox countries and is allied with Erdogan)?
You do realize religion is a poor basis for alliances as well right?
(Countries sharing the same religion often fight).
If religion is is the basis why not be friends with Ukraine and Georgia instead?
You do realize that the Kieran Rus Byzantine relationship failed to save the Byzantine Empire as well right?
That the ERE is dead, not possibly coming back, and Russia is absolutely not going to help it do so?

Relevant
https://images.app.goo.gl/WxLCBA8KjxE1Nc3w8

I swear, this fascination with long-dead empires and days long gone by are unhealthy.

The Roman Empire is dead. Gone. A part of the world's history, no more.
The Ottoman Empire is dead. Gone. A part of the world's history, no more.

This idea of seeing either as these bastions of civilisation, as the paragons of whatever one should strive to be, is nothing but a more fanciful way of saying "things were better back in my day". No, they weren't. You just aren't accustomed to today. Yesteryear was just as shit as this year, except we tend to see the past with rose-tinted glasses.

Greece ain't exactly doing great right now...we clearly need a change of approach...Turkey's on its way there too, is it not?

[Vistulange]

I swear, this fascination with long-dead empires and days long gone by are unhealthy.

The Roman Empire is dead. Gone. A part of the world's history, no more.
The Ottoman Empire is dead. Gone. A part of the world's history, no more.

This idea of seeing either as these bastions of civilisation, as the paragons of whatever one should strive to be, is nothing but a more fanciful way of saying "things were better back in my day". No, they weren't. You just aren't accustomed to today. Yesteryear was just as shit as this year, except we tend to see the past with rose-tinted glasses.

Greece ain't exactly doing great right now...we clearly need a change of approach...Turkey's on its way there too, is it not?

A country not doing great doesn't mean it needs to chase after literally long-gone empires. In Greece's case, said empire they associate themselves with died more or less six centuries ago. I'm not even going into the semantics of how the "Byzantines" never considered themselves "Greeks", and instead considered it a high insult by the West when they referred to the Emperor as "Emperor of the Greeks". The idea of trying to fit a square peg - nationalism - into a round hole - the concept of multinational empires - fails incredibly hard especially in the context of the Roman and the Ottoman empires. Chasing after dreams might win you an election, but they don't improve your economy, or get rid of corruption.

Same for the Ottoman Empire and Turkey, by the way. As much as Erdoğan and his lot talk bombastically about the Ottoman Empire and its heritage, half the country doesn't even come close to buying it. The Ottoman Empire wasn't a "Turkish Empire" by any means. That's simply forcing a nationalist lens into a context where nationalism didn't even exist in its current form. In an Ottoman context, the very word "Turk" referred to barbaric, nomadic tribes living on or around the Taurus Mountains, or occasionally the Aegean Mountains, who were impossible to control and were always viewed with utter disdain by the Ottomans, as they could not be forced to pay taxes. It was quite literally an insult.

Turkey's economy isn't doing well, no. Then again, nothing is doing well in Turkey. The thing is, the people who actually use their heads realise that the solution isn't to chase after some Ottoman, Seljuk, whatever pipe dream, but instead to get our act together. I'm fairly certain that the mainstream in Greece is also smart enough to realise this.

[-Ocelot-]

I swear, this fascination with long-dead empires and days long gone by are unhealthy.

The Roman Empire is dead. Gone. A part of the world's history, no more.
The Ottoman Empire is dead. Gone. A part of the world's history, no more.

This idea of seeing either as these bastions of civilisation, as the paragons of whatever one should strive to be, is nothing but a more fanciful way of saying "things were better back in my day". No, they weren't. You just aren't accustomed to today. Yesteryear was just as shit as this year, except we tend to see the past with rose-tinted glasses.

Greece ain't exactly doing great right now...we clearly need a change of approach...Turkey's on its way there too, is it not?

Νο it's not. Turkey is in a horrible position and is desperately trying to appear strong and mighty.

[Shrillland]

Well, it's now official for July 7, Tspiras went to the president today. He's already launched Syriza's 12-point manifesto for the campaign: https://www.ert.gr/featured/al-tsipras-pente-kentrikoi-stochoi-ta-themelia-tis-neas-epochis-oi-12-desmeyseis-gia-tin-tetraetia-video/

His plans include:
Full legalisation of same-sex marriage(Greece recognises marriages in the EU but does not currently have them)
500,000 new jobs in the next four years
7.5% increases in the minimum wage in '20 and '21
32% renewable energy by 2030(kind of low for such a sunny country as I see it)
Abolish the solidarity tax(a tax for projects that unify the country) for people making less than €20,000
Reduce the corporate income tax advance payment(the tax paid by publicly owned companies before they give dividends to shareholders) to 50% from the 100% it's currently at
Reduce income taxes for people earning up to €25,000 to a marginal rate of 20% from the 22% it's currently at

Most of the other parties aren't impressed: https://www.ert.gr/eidiseis/ellada/politiki/antidraseis-tis-antipoliteysis-gia-to-programma-toy-syriza/

KKE is also preparing and has their lists ready: https://www.ert.gr/eidiseis/ellada/politiki/d-koytsoympas-i-machi-tis-7is-ioylioy-tha-dothei-me-tis-kalyteres-proypotheseis-gia-pio-ischyro-kke/

KINAL has announced their goal will be to drive a wedge into Parliament that would require them to be heard: https://www.ethnos.gr/politiki/44125_rythmistiko-rolo-tin-epomeni-mera-diekdikei-kinal

[Baltenstein]

His plans include:
Full legalisation of same-sex marriage(Greece recognises marriages in the EU but does not currently have them)
500,000 new jobs in the next four years
7.5% increases in the minimum wage in '20 and '21
32% renewable energy by 2030(kind of low for such a sunny country as I see it)
Abolish the solidarity tax(a tax for projects that unify the country) for people making less than €20,000
Reduce the corporate income tax advance payment(the tax paid by publicly owned companies before they give dividends to shareholders) to 50% from the 100% it's currently at
Reduce income taxes for people earning up to €25,000 to a marginal rate of 20% from the 22% it's currently at

Oh yeah. He's totes going to make all that a reality. For sure.

I read a joke in Greek social media today: back in January 2015, Tsipras was making one absurd election promise after the other, even when he already knew that he was going to win the elections and thus should have known that few, if any, of his promises were even remotely feasible. Now that he already knows that he's going to lose the elections and therefore won't be responsible for future government perfomance anyway, what is there to keep him from making even more absurd promises?

KKE is also preparing and has their lists ready: https://www.ert.gr/eidiseis/ellada/politiki/d-koytsoympas-i-machi-tis-7is-ioylioy-tha-dothei-me-tis-kalyteres-proypotheseis-gia-pio-ischyro-kke/

KKE will get as the same app. 5 % they always get and continue its existence as a living artifact.

KINAL has announced their goal will be to drive a wedge into Parliament that would require them to be heard: https://www.ethnos.gr/politiki/44125_rythmistiko-rolo-tin-epomeni-mera-diekdikei-kinal

What an ambitious goal for what was once the country-defining party of Greece.

I didn't know you can read Greek btw.

32% renewable energy by 2030(kind of low for such a sunny country as I see it)

You're absolutely right about that. Greece has, if I'm not mistaken, the highest sunlight-per-day ratio of all of Europe. Expanding the Solar Energy industry should have already become one of the top priorities of our national agenda ages ago.

[Shrillland]

His plans include:
Full legalisation of same-sex marriage(Greece recognises marriages in the EU but does not currently have them)
500,000 new jobs in the next four years
7.5% increases in the minimum wage in '20 and '21
32% renewable energy by 2030(kind of low for such a sunny country as I see it)
Abolish the solidarity tax(a tax for projects that unify the country) for people making less than €20,000
Reduce the corporate income tax advance payment(the tax paid by publicly owned companies before they give dividends to shareholders) to 50% from the 100% it's currently at
Reduce income taxes for people earning up to €25,000 to a marginal rate of 20% from the 22% it's currently at

Oh yeah. He's totes going to make all that a reality. For sure.

I read a joke in Greek social media today: back in January 2015, Tsipras was making one absurd election promise after the other, even when he already knew that he was going to win the elections and thus should have known that few, if any, of his promises were even remotely feasible. Now that he already knows that he's going to lose the elections and therefore won't be responsible for future government perfomance anyway, what is there to keep him from making even more absurd promises?

KKE is also preparing and has their lists ready: https://www.ert.gr/eidiseis/ellada/politiki/d-koytsoympas-i-machi-tis-7is-ioylioy-tha-dothei-me-tis-kalyteres-proypotheseis-gia-pio-ischyro-kke/

KKE will get as the same app. 5 % they always get and continue its existence as a living artifact.

KINAL has announced their goal will be to drive a wedge into Parliament that would require them to be heard: https://www.ethnos.gr/politiki/44125_rythmistiko-rolo-tin-epomeni-mera-diekdikei-kinal

What an ambitious goal for what was once the country-defining party of Greece.

I didn't know you can read Greek btw.

I don't actually...I just use Google Translate, it's improved quite a bit in recent years from what it used to be.

[Novus America]

His plans include:
Full legalisation of same-sex marriage(Greece recognises marriages in the EU but does not currently have them)
500,000 new jobs in the next four years
7.5% increases in the minimum wage in '20 and '21
32% renewable energy by 2030(kind of low for such a sunny country as I see it)
Abolish the solidarity tax(a tax for projects that unify the country) for people making less than €20,000
Reduce the corporate income tax advance payment(the tax paid by publicly owned companies before they give dividends to shareholders) to 50% from the 100% it's currently at
Reduce income taxes for people earning up to €25,000 to a marginal rate of 20% from the 22% it's currently at

Oh yeah. He's totes going to make all that a reality. For sure.

I read a joke in Greek social media today: back in January 2015, Tsipras was making one absurd election promise after the other, even when he already knew that he was going to win the elections and thus should have known that few, if any, of his promises were even remotely feasible. Now that he already knows that he's going to lose the elections and therefore won't be responsible for future government perfomance anyway, what is there to keep him from making even more absurd promises?

KKE is also preparing and has their lists ready: https://www.ert.gr/eidiseis/ellada/politiki/d-koytsoympas-i-machi-tis-7is-ioylioy-tha-dothei-me-tis-kalyteres-proypotheseis-gia-pio-ischyro-kke/

KKE will get as the same app. 5 % they always get and continue its existence as a living artifact.

KINAL has announced their goal will be to drive a wedge into Parliament that would require them to be heard: https://www.ethnos.gr/politiki/44125_rythmistiko-rolo-tin-epomeni-mera-diekdikei-kinal

What an ambitious goal for what was once the country-defining party of Greece.

I didn't know you can read Greek btw.

32% renewable energy by 2030(kind of low for such a sunny country as I see it)

You're absolutely right about that. Greece has, if I'm not mistaken, the highest sunlight-per-day ratio of all of Europe. Expanding the Solar Energy industry should have already become one of the top priorities of our national agenda ages ago.

I can play that game. Vote for me and everyone gets a private jet!
What about the environment? Oh these jets will be completely pollution free and super efficiently. What about infrastructure? Nah they will be VTOL and have Ant Man technology so you can shrink them in carry them in your pocket!

I mean I am just as likely to implement them as Tsipras is likely to implement his platform.

[Bienenhalde]

Are there any other parties besides Syriza that support same-sex marriage?

[Shrillland]

Are there any other parties besides Syriza that support same-sex marriage?

Well, Syriza's the only one with their manifesto out at the moment, so I can't say for sure.

[Phoenicaea]

it is a pity we don t know about greek politics through our means of information. nor politics from other countries.

main medias follow politics of most influent countries, and when they do they represent the shining theatre, so that even to foresee something, substantial, of them is hard.

[Shrillland]

it is a pity we don t know about greek politics through our means of information. nor politics from other countries.

main medias follow politics of most influent countries, and when they do they represent the shining theatre, so that even to foresee something, substantial, of them is hard.

I know. We have the same problem ourselves.

[Shrillland]

Add MeRA25 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeRA25

Well, your wish shall be granted in just a bit. They are indeed polling at 4%, so that's enough to get them on and just in time. A few days later and I wouldn't have done so. My apologies to everyone who has voted, but an added option means a reset poll...

In the meantime, here's some of the latest news.

Gennimata is announcing that a revived and reviatalised NHS is paramount to KINAL's programme: https://www.ert.gr/frontpage/gennimataypsisti-proteraiotita-gia-to-kinal-einai-i-anagennisi-toy-esy/

Genniamata is also reiterating her hopes for KINAL to come in third place and is wondering why Tsipras hasn't discussed the growing dispute with Turkey(Turkish oil companies are installing rigs in Cyprus' EEZ and is coming uncomfortably close to Greece's) with other party leaders including herself and Mitsotakis: https://www.ert.gr/frontpage/synainesi-stin-katargisi-tis-aplis-analogikis-kai-allagi-toy-eklogikoy-nomoy/

[Asherahan]

Add MeRA25 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeRA25

Well, your wish shall be granted in just a bit. They are indeed polling at 4%, so that's enough to get them on and just in time. A few days later and I wouldn't have done so. My apologies to everyone who has voted, but an added option means a reset poll...

In the meantime, here's some of the latest news.

Gennimata is announcing that a revived and reviatalised NHS is paramount to KINAL's programme: https://www.ert.gr/frontpage/gennimataypsisti-proteraiotita-gia-to-kinal-einai-i-anagennisi-toy-esy/

Genniamata is also reiterating her hopes for KINAL to come in third place and is wondering why Tsipras hasn't discussed the growing dispute with Turkey(Turkish oil companies are installing rigs in Cyprus' EEZ and is coming uncomfortably close to Greece's) with other party leaders including herself and Mitsotakis: https://www.ert.gr/frontpage/synainesi-stin-katargisi-tis-aplis-analogikis-kai-allagi-toy-eklogikoy-nomoy/

KINAL can go fuck itself. They literally became the Socialdemocratic version of KKE. AKA proffesional bullshiters out to keep their 4~8% by cracking down and shoring up thier party organization they literally do not want to win. Like KKE.

[Shrillland]

Sorry I've been neglecting my duties everyone, here's some of the latest news.

Mitsotakis is emphasising the fact that voter turnout will be essential to an ND win and that no one should be complacent: https://www.ert.gr/frontpage/mitsotakis-periodeia-evros/

Tsipras and Zoran Zaev, PM of North Macedonia, have won an award for their efforts in preserving peace and ending the name dispute: https://www.ert.gr/eidiseis/ellada/politiki/stoys-al-tsipra-kai-z-zaef-to-vraveio-remarkable-achievement-awards-2019/

As the vote comes closer, ND and Syriza are fighting over the issues of employment and social security: https://www.ert.gr/featured/politiki-sygkroysi-gia-ergasiaka-asfalistiko/

MeRA25 leader Varoufakis is ruling out working with Syriza or ND because their policies will lead to Greece becoming "Kosovo with beautiful beaches": https://www.ert.gr/eidiseis/ellada/politiki/varoyfakis-giati-ochi-kai-ektos-eyro-audio/

And ND is saying that there will be drastic tax cuts once they're in office: https://www.ert.gr/eidiseis/ellada/politiki/panagiotopoylos-apo-112020-oi-foroi-tha-meiothoyn-drastika-audio/

[Rojava Free State]

Greece is the biggest scam on earth. Millions have pumped money into it and it vanished never to be seen again