Suicide attempts by refugees in Manus after Aussie elections

[Duhon]

Wait, what?

I posted it under a different account years ago, but basically, 600 of the 900 on Manus wanted to die because the situation was so horrific. Now whether it was an attempt at emotional manipulation or legitimate was unknown.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... reddit.com

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"Manus Island asylum seekers 'swallow razor blades' as hunger strikes enter ninth day"

"Fazel Chegeni: Riot breaks out at Christmas Island detention centre after refugee found dead"

"Asylum seeker Khodayar Amini feared dead in Australia after ‘setting himself alight’ during video call"

... what the fuck, Australia, what the fuck?

That quip about Saturday cartoon villains? When you've so traumatized people they're willing to eat razor blades to get off, and burn themselves to death rather than step back...

... this is the stuff Saturday cartoon villains do, Australia. What the fuck. What the fuck.

[Trollgaard]

If they have desirable skills and specialties, bring them in. If not, send them back to their home countries or make them resettle in Papua New Guinea. Keeping them in abject conditions in detention centers is horrific and a waste of taxpayer money.

Are the islands not south pacific paradises? Could they not just enjoy the beach life? Surfing, swimming, volleyball and all that?

[New haven america]

If they have desirable skills and specialties, bring them in. If not, send them back to their home countries or make them resettle in Papua New Guinea. Keeping them in abject conditions in detention centers is horrific and a waste of taxpayer money.

It seems you don't understand what a refugee is...

[New haven america]

If they have desirable skills and specialties, bring them in. If not, send them back to their home countries or make them resettle in Papua New Guinea. Keeping them in abject conditions in detention centers is horrific and a waste of taxpayer money.

Are the islands not south pacific paradises? Could they not just enjoy the beach life? Surfing, swimming, volleyball and all that?

Nauru and Manus? Haha, no. Especially since they're not allowed to go outside and enjoy the (Tiny) beaches.

[Trollgaard]

Are the islands not south pacific paradises? Could they not just enjoy the beach life? Surfing, swimming, volleyball and all that?

Nauru and Manus? Haha, no. Especially since they're not allowed to go outside and enjoy the (Tiny) beaches.

Well that's a shame.

[Sanctum and Ultima]

Those who decided that putting refugees in Manus thinks with their anus, not their brain...

[New haven america]

Nauru and Manus? Haha, no. Especially since they're not allowed to go outside and enjoy the (Tiny) beaches.

Well that's a shame.

Yeah, Nauru's one of the smallest countries in the world, with someone being able to walk around the entire island within an hour, and is going though a massive heating effect because of the empty phosphate mine taking in a spreading the heat around the island. Nauru used to be one of the richest countries in the world, but ever since the phosphate mine ran out it been growing poorer and poorer. One time they were so desperate that they basically fell for a Nigerian Prince scam.

Manus on the other hand... it exists. It's basically a poor province that's part of one of the poorest and least developed countries in the world.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

I posted it under a different account years ago, but basically, 600 of the 900 on Manus wanted to die because the situation was so horrific. Now whether it was an attempt at emotional manipulation or legitimate was unknown.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... reddit.com

...

"Manus Island asylum seekers 'swallow razor blades' as hunger strikes enter ninth day"

"Fazel Chegeni: Riot breaks out at Christmas Island detention centre after refugee found dead"

"Asylum seeker Khodayar Amini feared dead in Australia after ‘setting himself alight’ during video call"

... what the fuck, Australia, what the fuck?

That quip about Saturday cartoon villains? When you've so traumatized people they're willing to eat razor blades to get off, and burn themselves to death rather than step back...

... this is the stuff Saturday cartoon villains do, Australia. What the fuck. What the fuck.

Congrats Australia, you’ve turned your refugee camps into an actual dystopia.

[Kowani]

Of course, policy that doesn’t deliberately fuck innocent people over., we can’t do that anymore.

[Shrillland]

Well that's a shame.

Yeah, Nauru's one of the smallest countries in the world, with someone being able to walk around the entire island within an hour, and is going though a massive heating effect because of the empty phosphate mine taking in a spreading the heat around the island. Nauru used to be one of the richest countries in the world, but ever since the phosphate mine ran out it been growing poorer and poorer. One time they were so desperate that they basically fell for a Nigerian Prince scam.

Manus on the other hand... it exists. It's basically a poor province that's part of one of the poorest and least developed countries in the world.

And that's one of the problems. Since the mine closed, the detention centre is now Nauru's largest employer(yes, really). Whenever a government discusses the possibility of closing it(which admittedly hasn't been for some years) the Nauru government begs them to keep it open so their economy won't collapse more than it has.

[Saiwania]

And that's one of the problems. Since the mine closed, the detention centre is now Nauru's largest employer(yes, really). Whenever a government discusses the possibility of closing it(which admittedly hasn't been for some years) the Nauru government begs them to keep it open so their economy won't collapse more than it has.

Nauru's problem is that it is a remote pacific island, nothing can really grow there and the habitability sucks, this is almost a given for any sort of island lacking natural resources. I'd recommend it serving as a military base if not a pit stop for airplanes. I could maybe see it better off being annexed under Australia or New Zealand. It is not as nice as Tonga or Niue, so I don't see the tourism potential. The value Nauru has is in its geographic location as an island retreat to get away from it all, with outside support it is land that can at least be lived on.

[Jack Thomas Lang]

It seems you don't understand what a refugee is...

If they can't return home, they can settle down in Papua New Guinea. Unless there is some kind of restriction arbitrarily imposed by the Australian government to keep the refugees in the detention centers (red tape, wouldn't put it past them), it's up to the refugees.

[Kowani]

It seems you don't understand what a refugee is...

If they can't return home, they can settle down in Papua New Guinea. Unless there is some kind of restriction arbitrarily imposed by the Australian government to keep the refugees in the detention centers (red tape, wouldn't put it past them), it's up to the refugees.

I don’t know if there is a restriction or not, but PNG isn’t exactly anyone’s idea of a good place to be.

[Sanctum and Ultima]

If they can't return home, they can settle down in Papua New Guinea. Unless there is some kind of restriction arbitrarily imposed by the Australian government to keep the refugees in the detention centers (red tape, wouldn't put it past them), it's up to the refugees.

I don’t know if there is a restriction or not, but PNG isn’t exactly anyone’s idea of a good place to be.

A better way would be to deport them to Japan because their population is shrinking but they don't accept refugees. We have no choice except sending them to Europe or North America.

[Jack Thomas Lang]

I don’t know if there is a restriction or not, but PNG isn’t exactly anyone’s idea of a good place to be.

Refugees aren't in any position to be picky choosers. Make a new life in the PNG, return home or stay in a detention center, which by all accounts sucks.

Although we should let in skilled refugees, or those willing to work regionally.

[Liriena]

Australia is probably the only other English-speaking nation that has politics as fundamentally broken and rotten as the United States'.

The Australian concentration camps are an atrocity that keeps being overlooked.

[Kowani]

I don’t know if there is a restriction or not, but PNG isn’t exactly anyone’s idea of a good place to be.

Refugees aren't in any position to be picky choosers. Make a new life in the PNG, return home or stay in a detention center, which by all accounts sucks.

Although we should let in skilled refugees, or those willing to work regionally.

Or, ya’ know, go to Australia… There’s a giant fucking desert in the middle, s’not like the number of refugees is particularly large.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

How is this Australia’s fault?

Well, instead of simply deciding to deport them or follow proper procedures for asylum seekers, they just stuck them on these islands to effectively rot and not make any moves towards bringing them in or out.

What are Australia’s parameters for asylum seeking?

[Jack Thomas Lang]

Or, ya’ know, go to Australia… There’s a giant fucking desert in the middle, s’not like the number of refugees is particularly large.

Yeah, just dump our refugees in the desert with no jobs and infrastructure. I can't believe our government hasn't thought of this before.

[Kowani]

Or, ya’ know, go to Australia… There’s a giant fucking desert in the middle, s’not like the number of refugees is particularly large.

Yeah, just dump our refugees in the desert with no jobs and infrastructure. I can't believe our government hasn't thought of this before.

Still better than being stuck in PNG. Although my preferred solution is integrating them into the cities, seeing as the number is still remarkably small.

[The Alma Mater]

Or, ya’ know, go to Australia… There’s a giant fucking desert in the middle, s’not like the number of refugees is particularly large.

Yeah, just dump our refugees in the desert with no jobs and infrastructure. I can't believe our government hasn't thought of this before.

It is what the Prophet Mohammed would do, so at least the muslim refugees would consider it a noble and praiseworthy act.

[Shrillland]

Well, instead of simply deciding to deport them or follow proper procedures for asylum seekers, they just stuck them on these islands to effectively rot and not make any moves towards bringing them in or out.

What are Australia’s parameters for asylum seeking?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_in_Australia

Their parameters are similar to most other countries as to who can seek asylum and why, but it's the idea of keeping those who come by boat offshore at Manus, Nauru, and Christmas Island that sets them apart from other nations. They stick them on the island processing and detention centres while their visas get processed, which can take years if it happens at all.

[Arlenton]

Refugees aren't in any position to be picky choosers. Make a new life in the PNG, return home or stay in a detention center, which by all accounts sucks.

Although we should let in skilled refugees, or those willing to work regionally.

Or, ya’ know, go to Australia… There’s a giant fucking desert in the middle, s’not like the number of refugees is particularly large.

Australia doesn't want them. They don't need to let anyone in if they don't want to.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

What are Australia’s parameters for asylum seeking?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_in_Australia

Their parameters are similar to most other countries as to who can seek asylum and why, but it's the idea of keeping those who come by boat offshore at Manus, Nauru, and Christmas Island that sets them apart from other nations. They stick them on the island processing and detention centres while their visas get processed, which can take years if it happens at all.

Do they stick everyone in those islands or just these particular groups who I can’t help but notice are Muslim? And mind you, I can understand if their countries of provenance worry Australia. I’m just curious if this is the modus operandi for relocating all asylum seekers.

[Jack Thomas Lang]

Still better than being stuck in PNG. Although my preferred solution is integrating them into the cities, seeing as the number is still remarkably small.

Aside from tacitly encouraging other refugees (and "refugees"), there are costs with integrating them into cities to ensure that they become valued additions to society, instead of a poor ethnic ghetto.

As I've said, if they're willing to work regionally or have valuable skills, by all means, bring them in.