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by Duhon » Sat May 18, 2019 7:39 pm
by Conserative Morality » Sat May 18, 2019 7:40 pm
by Totally Not OEP » Sat May 18, 2019 7:40 pm
Duhon wrote:Low-level guerilla warfare my ass.
Far less that, more loosely-connected but still organized terrorist activities perpetrated on Republican officeholders and partisans of all hues throughout the South, abetted and implicitly supported by the Democratic Party and its paramilitary affiliates, in the years between the end of military government and the 1876 elections.
by Conserative Morality » Sat May 18, 2019 7:41 pm
Duhon wrote:Low-level guerilla warfare my ass.
Far less that, more loosely-connected but still organized terrorist activities perpetrated on Republican officeholders and partisans of all hues throughout the South, abetted and implicitly supported by the Democratic Party and its paramilitary affiliates, in the years between the end of military government and the 1876 elections.
by Duhon » Sat May 18, 2019 7:42 pm
Totally Not OEP wrote:Asherahan wrote:Serious question why didn't the US annex Cuba and the Caribbean islands in the 1890s and 1900s?
Because by 1900 the Sugar trade, the only source of value for the Caribbean isles, was no longer as profitable as it once was. In the case of Cuba as well, a long running guerrilla war was being waged and had allowed for the development of Cuban nationalism, which meant annexing it would've put the U.S. in the exact same spot as Spain once was in.
by Totally Not OEP » Sat May 18, 2019 7:42 pm
by Totally Not OEP » Sat May 18, 2019 7:43 pm
Duhon wrote:Totally Not OEP wrote:
Because by 1900 the Sugar trade, the only source of value for the Caribbean isles, was no longer as profitable as it once was. In the case of Cuba as well, a long running guerrilla war was being waged and had allowed for the development of Cuban nationalism, which meant annexing it would've put the U.S. in the exact same spot as Spain once was in.
But if the Confederacy had managed to hold the Union oft or, God fucking forbid, conquer the North, you'd see the implementation of the Golden Circle in earnest -- first the Caribbean and most of Mesoamerica, then northern south America --
by Duhon » Sat May 18, 2019 7:44 pm
Totally Not OEP wrote:Duhon wrote:Low-level guerilla warfare my ass.
Far less that, more loosely-connected but still organized terrorist activities perpetrated on Republican officeholders and partisans of all hues throughout the South, abetted and implicitly supported by the Democratic Party and its paramilitary affiliates, in the years between the end of military government and the 1876 elections.
In other words......low level guerrilla warfare.
by Duhon » Sat May 18, 2019 7:47 pm
Totally Not OEP wrote:Duhon wrote:
But if the Confederacy had managed to hold the Union oft or, God fucking forbid, conquer the North, you'd see the implementation of the Golden Circle in earnest -- first the Caribbean and most of Mesoamerica, then northern south America --
That, in all reality, would've never happened.
by Totally Not OEP » Sat May 18, 2019 8:01 pm
by Novus America » Sat May 18, 2019 8:04 pm
Totally Not OEP wrote:Novus America wrote:
But as you said their fears were unfounded, it is obvious Lincoln has no intent or power to ban slavery in the South. So even if defended slavery justified the war (when obviously that is still a horrible justification) slavery was not even seriously threatened!
I said they were unfounded because I have the benefit of hindsight, the Southerners of 1860 did not. Even if they did, the South by 1860 had developed its own national identity and thus, in that spirit of self determination, I find them in the right; those men were my ancestors, and I don't begrudge them for doing what they had to do to enact their vision and defend their homes in the process.
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat May 18, 2019 8:35 pm
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat May 18, 2019 8:38 pm
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Sat May 18, 2019 9:55 pm
by Asherahan » Sat May 18, 2019 10:56 pm
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Communist Zombie Horde wrote:The south is not traitors we are the most patriotic people in the world.
So “””patriotic””” that you threw the biggest temper tantrum in American history by committing treason against your own country in order to preserve your “””right””” to own human beings as property.
by Torrocca » Sat May 18, 2019 11:33 pm
by Jack Thomas Lang » Sat May 18, 2019 11:35 pm
Torrocca wrote:Should have.
by Torrocca » Sat May 18, 2019 11:35 pm
by Jack Thomas Lang » Sat May 18, 2019 11:37 pm
Torrocca wrote:I never said they shouldn't've had the same. :^)
by Torrocca » Sat May 18, 2019 11:38 pm
by Jack Thomas Lang » Sat May 18, 2019 11:40 pm
Torrocca wrote:Nah, I challenged them on the words of a post they quoted, where I didn't explicitly state that. My beliefs were irrelevant to that discussion about semantics. :^3
by Torrocca » Sat May 18, 2019 11:41 pm
by Jack Thomas Lang » Sat May 18, 2019 11:44 pm
Torrocca wrote:Well, I'm sure you can easily find that conversation from the last thread and see that it, indeed, was an argument over semantics. :3
by Torrocca » Sat May 18, 2019 11:49 pm
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