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Which Candidate do you like most after the debates?(Ranked in order of polling after said debates)

Joe Biden
40
14%
Bernie Sanders
92
32%
Elizabeth Warren
27
9%
Kamala Harris
10
3%
Pete Buttigieg
15
5%
Cory Booker
2
1%
Beto O'Rourke
3
1%
Andrew Yang
38
13%
Other
49
17%
Undecided
11
4%
 
Total votes : 287
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:50 pm

Shrillland wrote:Well, we all thought Warren would get blue-shelled, and so far, Booker, Castro, Beto, Klobuchar, Inslee, and even de Blasio at times seem to be hitting their marks.

I don't think I would have called her not being called on for half an hour, though.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:51 pm

Seriously? Booker just answered a question. Remember that chick in the blue at the center, the one bucking for second and not 'also ran'? Oh, this other woman, forgot about her.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:53 pm

Gabbard was never really in front
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:54 pm

Hey did Gabbard serve?
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:54 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Hey did Gabbard serve?

Did she? I forgot.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:55 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Hey did Gabbard serve?


She did, yes. In the Army Reserve.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:55 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Gabbard is right a Iran War would be disastrous.


She hasn't been given a chance to speak on domestic issues though.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:55 pm

The South Falls wrote:Gabbard was never really in front


She ain't going anywhere.

Cannot think of a name wrote:Hey did Gabbard serve?


Yes
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:55 pm

You can talk over moderators and other candidates, but don't fuck with the commercial break motherfucker.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:55 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Hey did Gabbard serve?


She did, yes. In the Army Reserve.

I believe it was a joke.
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:55 pm

anchor: "Your time is up"
candidate: "more talking"
"shut your bitch ass up"
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:56 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
She did, yes. In the Army Reserve.

I believe it was a joke.

Yep
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:57 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:I believe it was a joke.

Yep

oops
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:59 pm

Did you guys get that guy saying that Trump's path to victory is to make his opponent as disliked as he is or is that YouTube thing?
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:00 pm

Ooo, the refs swapped out.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:00 pm

Guns...the twitter fingers are warming up.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:01 pm

There is a lot of swearing in the control room right now.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:01 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Did you guys get that guy saying that Trump's path to victory is to make his opponent as disliked as he is or is that YouTube thing?


Just on YouTube, I saw it.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:02 pm

Turn off your packs, dammit. It's a button on the top next to the light.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:03 pm

How is it this hard to turn off a lapel? Come on, guys.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:04 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:something happened

Board operator didn't mute the right lines.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:05 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Board operator didn't mute the right lines.

went to commercial

So someone can yell a torrent of abuse at the board op who is frantically repatching the audio.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:05 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Board operator didn't mute the right lines.

went to commercial


Yeah, it was a microphone issue...nothing too serious.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:06 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:went to commercial


Yeah, it was a microphone issue...nothing too serious.

This is sometimes my job. No one notices you until you fuck up.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:06 pm

Hey, Warren, I remember her.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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