Eternal Lotharia wrote:Shrillland wrote:
Venezuela is not a threat to our existence. They have less than 30 million people, they can't control their own people, and their economy's the same as Moldova circa 1993. Plus, our interventionism down there led to tyrannical dictators that rank among the worst of the worst, or do I need to regale you with stories of Pinochet's special dogs?
There is a place for it, to be sure, but we misuse our power far more often that we correctly use it.
I'm not denying that. I'd suggest you watch the video to see what I mean, they aren't a threat on their own. Get educated on the subject, helps you understand why the mass uneducated view is wrong and dangerous because they don't know foreign policy which is a complex subject.
However Guaido isn't Pinochet. He's a Social Democrat fighting a anti-democracy Dictator using powers that are constitutionally given to him to try to overthrow Maduro. Unlike Iraq this is a state with a system already in place that can restore Democracy and further the Social-Democrat agenda Leftists support while opposing the evil dictators who claim to represent us. It'll be much easier than Iraq, it'll restore faith in American interventionism. That said, we should not go to war with Iran due to the circumstances, and uh Trump will find a way to fuck up an easy victory and make it worse for Venezuelans so I wanna wait until he loses 2020, so we have a sane competent leader who won't screw it all up and won't make it worse for people.
As Leftists we have a responsibility to not abandon people who want our aid. I know a Venezuelan who is a Democrat who talks to her family from there who say more people want than oppose America intervening for Guaido and are Leftist and feel abandoned by Democrats but hate Trump and don't want him involved.
As Leftists we have a moral obligation to help the people asking for our help else we betray the very core of our ideology and act like capitalists by leaving them to fend for themselves. We betray our ideology and humanity as a whole. We are complicit in evil so it's our fault and we should be blamed for acting like hypocritical
pieces of shit.
Oh, of course we should help those who ask for it, that's why I still maintain that helping Libya was the right thing to do because we were asked to come in.
For the rest, we're going to betray our ideology no matter what when it comes to foreign affairs. No nation ever became a superpower by doing the right thing.
