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Father Murders Daughter in Homework Dispute

Postby Shofercia » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:04 pm

So this happened: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/father- ... 01866.html

A New Mexico father was arrested on Friday and charged with child abuse after allegedly beating his 5-year-old daughter to death as a result of a dispute over homework. According to a criminal complaint obtained by Yahoo Lifestyle, Brandon Reynolds, 36, told police that he had been helping his daughter with her school work on Thursday evening when she expressed that she didn’t want to do it. He said that he became enraged and “that’s when the discipline kicked in.” The police report says that the father began spanking his child with a shoe and that he ended up “blacking out.” Reynolds eventually called 911 at around 1:00 AM on Friday and claimed that his daughter had gone into cardiac arrest.

Police explained during a press conference on Friday afternoon that first responders decided to alert police officers after determining that the situation had been criminal. The complaint states that officers noticed blood stains on the living room wall and carpet upon arrival. Medics performed CPR on the 5-year-old girl before transporting her to the University of New Mexico Hospital where she was later pronounced dead. There, hospital staff and officers noted the bruises that covered the little girl’s side and back, and decided to bring Reynolds into custody. Albuquerque police and the crimes against children unit conducted an investigation and interviewed Reynolds, where he confessed. Now, the father remains in custody at the Bernalillo Detention Center.

The child’s mother, Chantel DuBois, didn’t immediately respond to Yahoo Lifestyle’s request for comment. However, a gofundme that she set up reveals that DuBois lives in California, where the little girl recently spent time with her. DuBois is currently trying to raise funds to go out to New Mexico and provide her daughter with a proper burial. “I was hoping to have more time with her. My heart just hurts so bad,” DuBois wrote. “She didn’t deserve this.” DuBois also says that her daughter was diagnosed with autism and claims that Reynolds “could not deal” with her diagnosis. Neighbors of Reynolds told police that they heard the commotion and one even tried to document it on her phone. The City of Albuquerque Park Management Division is currently raising money to plant a memorial tree for the little girl. “She was a little angel,” one neighbor told KOAT. Police say that an autopsy is still pending.


Obviously the father should go to jail, and yet, this raises the question: how do we, as a society, deal with autistic kids. These are often brilliant individuals who need help adopting to society's program, but once adopted, they can perform remarkable feats of intellect. How do we prevent situations like the one described above from happening in the future?

I think that we should reform education to enable autistic kids to get the treatment they need, and to somehow find ways to take them away from abusive parents. What does NSG say?
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Postby Yusseria » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:07 pm

Patience is required to deal with autistic children. If you don't have patience then you shouldn't be a parent.

This father, though, was lacking a bit more than patience. He was also lacking basic human empathy.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:09 pm

Educate the masses about autism, get to know people with it, and yes, take the children away from abusive parents.

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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:17 pm

There's being a bad parent and there's being a psychopathic parent.

The father is obviously the latter and never needs to see the light of day again.
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Postby Soviet Computocracy » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:29 pm

What does this have to do with autism? She can’t be the only five year old that didn’t want to do homework. Make beating illegal.

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Postby Tavutelle and Firdland » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:31 pm

Make beating illegal #beatingillegal

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:35 pm

I can't believe he didn't show signs of being abusive previously, you don't go from 0-100 like that. This is about how we spot, manage and deal with abusive parents.
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Postby Yusseria » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:38 pm

Bombadil wrote:I can't believe he didn't show signs of being abusive previously, you don't go from 0-100 like that. This is about how we spot, manage and deal with abusive parents.

I'm pretty sure he had been abusive before. It's just that no one noticed.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:39 pm

Bombadil wrote:I can't believe he didn't show signs of being abusive previously, you don't go from 0-100 like that. This is about how we spot, manage and deal with abusive parents.

Pretty much this. If he went into a full-on black out berserk rage, that's not something that just accidentally happens. That's somebody with a history of anger issues who likely has flipped his shit like that before on other people.
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Postby Vetalia » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:41 pm

As much as I would like to see him summarily executed upon conviction, I would prefer that they throw him into prison for the rest of his life in general population. I'm sure the other inmates will really take a shine to him knowing he murdered his 5 year old daughter because the "discipline kicked in" and he "blacked out".
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Postby Soviet Computocracy » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:42 pm

I’d like to think this was a more extreme example but the culture there tends towards “discipline”.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:43 pm

Soviet Computocracy wrote:I’d like to think this was a more extreme example but the culture there tends towards “discipline”.

Culture where?
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Postby Soviet Computocracy » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:45 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Soviet Computocracy wrote:I’d like to think this was a more extreme example but the culture there tends towards “discipline”.

Culture where?

In New Mexico. I lived there and have a friend there who was beaten as well, though he thinks of it as normal. Obsessed with “being a man” etc
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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:46 pm

I have a feeling that people with bouts of rage, or inability to have a good amount of patience dealing with matters, should not be alongside a kid. It's normal for a parent to flip out over a matter, i.e. maybe the parent had a bad day, or the kid did something pretty awful like stealing something, but at the end of the day, beating your kid to a pulp is a no-no.

I dare say that he should more or less be barred from raising another kid. I have no sympathy towards a child abuser, amongst many others.




Off-topic: Discipline-wise, it's more or less a norm for SE Asians to get some beatings from their parents now and then. But the difference is, it is not abuse (most of the time), and it was more or less a punishment to set them straight, and you will most likely not be beaten up until you die.
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Postby Duhon » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:01 pm

Bombadil wrote:I can't believe he didn't show signs of being abusive previously, you don't go from 0-100 like that. This is about how we spot, manage and deal with abusive parents.

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Postby Iciaros » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:27 pm

Valentine Z wrote:I have a feeling that people with bouts of rage, or inability to have a good amount of patience dealing with matters, should not be alongside a kid. It's normal for a parent to flip out over a matter, i.e. maybe the parent had a bad day, or the kid did something pretty awful like stealing something, but at the end of the day, beating your kid to a pulp is a no-no.

I dare say that he should more or less be barred from raising another kid. I have no sympathy towards a child abuser, amongst many others.




Off-topic: Discipline-wise, it's more or less a norm for SE Asians to get some beatings from their parents now and then. But the difference is, it is not abuse (most of the time), and it was more or less a punishment to set them straight, and you will most likely not be beaten up until you die.


(Off-topic: imo, culture is no excuse. Beating is either effective or not on a particular child, and it should be incumbent on every parent to conduct that inquiry before taking action that could adversely affect a child. It being within or outside a cultural norm is no excuse to abrogate one's responsibility towards one's child to serve their wellbeing and determine what course of action might adequately do so.

Nonetheless, bad day or not, parents still should not be relieved of this responsibility. Certainly, it might be understandable, but that doesn't make it acceptable. They must still be held accountable for the consequences of their actions.)

As for this case, well... it hardly strays into the realm of contention of the usual 'beating/no beating' argument. This is about actual murder. I agree with Val; people like this should not be allowed near children, let alone allowed to actually raise one. It definitely seems like a failure of the system that he was not identified as at-risk before he killed his daughter.
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Postby Soviet Computocracy » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:32 pm

Iciaros wrote: It definitely seems like a failure of the system that he was not identified as at-risk before he killed his daughter.

Well it is New Mexico

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:37 pm

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Bombadil wrote:I can't believe he didn't show signs of being abusive previously, you don't go from 0-100 like that. This is about how we spot, manage and deal with abusive parents.

I'm pretty sure he had been abusive before. It's just that no one noticed.

Sadly this. Unfortunately there are several cases of abuse that constantly go unreported or they are reported and nothing happens.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:38 pm

Is there really anything to discuss here?

I don't think there's much to say aside from beating your children to death is bad.
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Postby Soviet Computocracy » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:42 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Is there really anything to discuss here?

I don't think there's much to say aside from beating your children to death is bad.

I proposed banning it but people just ignored me. They probably think of children as property.

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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:44 pm

Iciaros wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:Off-topic: Discipline-wise, it's more or less a norm for SE Asians to get some beatings from their parents now and then. But the difference is, it is not abuse (most of the time), and it was more or less a punishment to set them straight, and you will most likely not be beaten up until you die.


(Off-topic: imo, culture is no excuse. Beating is either effective or not on a particular child, and it should be incumbent on every parent to conduct that inquiry before taking action that could adversely affect a child. It being within or outside a cultural norm is no excuse to abrogate one's responsibility towards one's child to serve their wellbeing and determine what course of action might adequately do so.

Nonetheless, bad day or not, parents still should not be relieved of this responsibility. Certainly, it might be understandable, but that doesn't make it acceptable. They must still be held accountable for the consequences of their actions.)


On the note that if I became a parent, which I probably never will due to personal choice not to have a kid, I will just use words, really. I usually am lenient or patient when it comes to dealing with most stuffs, but if something ticks me off, I will just make sure I mean it with words.

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Steering back to the topic a little, what are the chances that the psychotic dad in-question threw tantrum towards someone else?
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:50 pm

Soviet Computocracy wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:Is there really anything to discuss here?

I don't think there's much to say aside from beating your children to death is bad.

I proposed banning it but people just ignored me. They probably think of children as property.


Pretty sure beating your child to death is banned already.

I guess a question is.. especially when it comes to children with behavioural issues or conditions such as Autism, which can be tough to manage.. should there be greater support and/or assessment for and of parents.

Ultimately I suspect this leads up to cost and healthcare as well, not being able to afford the right support and assistance leaves especially poorer and more stressed parents on their own.

Having said that this guy clearly should have been spotted earlier, so for example if a child is diagnosed with autism the parents should be checked for their capability to handle and if they have serious anger issues they shouldn't be placed in charge of the child.
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Soviet Computocracy wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:Is there really anything to discuss here?

I don't think there's much to say aside from beating your children to death is bad.

I proposed banning it but people just ignored me. They probably think of children as property.


I'm fairly certain that beating your child to death is already illegal.

Also, people not replying to you =/= people disagreeing with you.
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Postby Yusseria » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:05 pm

Soviet Computocracy wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:Is there really anything to discuss here?

I don't think there's much to say aside from beating your children to death is bad.

I proposed banning it but people just ignored me. They probably think of children as property.

It already is banned. Hitting your child is abuse.

Come up with new ideas if you want people to discuss them.
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