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What denomination of Islam are you part of?

Sunni
250
44%
Salafi
17
3%
Shi'a
48
8%
Qur'ani
13
2%
Ahmadi
9
2%
IbaaDi
10
2%
Sufi (either Sunni or Shi'a)
30
5%
Non-Denominational
87
15%
Other
102
18%
 
Total votes : 566

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Postby Merien » Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:55 pm

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A m e n r i a wrote:
If he's a convert, it might take a while for him to adjust to Islam, let alone one particular branch. It would make sense to stay nondenominational while he does what you suggest, don't you think?


I converted as a muslim and decided to be a Sunni Muslim. I am still working on it all.

The big issue is there is no mosques or centers in my area and I can't really find a good thing to watch during Friday prayer that's Sunni.

I am also not really good at learning languages (partially due to me being mentally impaired) but I have learned bits. If you got any good sites or apps to learn arabic (as used in the Quran), that would be really nice to share.

I don't really want to associate with something like non denominational (no offense) as I think that will simply lead me to where I was before where I was before.


I should also mention me and Jolthig know each other outside of NS.
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Postby Unogonduria » Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:33 am

What are the Non-Denominational Muslims, as I see in the poll?
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Postby Merien » Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:04 am

Unogonduria wrote:What are the Non-Denominational Muslims, as I see in the poll?


Think of it like this, you know how you have Roman Catholic churches and Eastern Orthodox churches right, now replace those with Sunni and Shia Islam. I personally don't refer to them as denominations but instead as "paths" and usually if one follows a path I don't personally adhere to, I simply just presume them as possibly misguided comparably. I think people interpret Islam differently though so I don't usually look down on anyone who disagree with me unless they have some extreme opinions or completely warped ideas (i.e. the kind of ideas extremists have)

Now we other paths like Ibadi Islam, Ahmadiyya (Which I have a bit of history with), and your question, non denominational Islam.

A non denominational Muslim is one that doesn't adhere/associate with any specific school of thought, consider it as like you later on today accepted Islam and proceeded to become Muslim and recited the Shahada, you either had a good idea of what school to follow, or you barely know nothing (which is ok! You don't have to know stuff like Arabic or how to pray perfectly at the beginning, even I'm still learning to lock in on that), you don't really got to have a school of thought to be Muslim as Allah knows your faith regardless of whatever sect you follow, however, you probably will find what suits you or maybe stick with not associating with any one denomination.

A majority of people choose a denomination, but there's a few who don't, which is perfectly fine.
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Postby Merien » Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:06 am

Merien wrote:
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I converted as a muslim and decided to be a Sunni Muslim. I am still working on it all.

The big issue is there is no mosques or centers in my area and I can't really find a good thing to watch during Friday prayer that's Sunni.

I am also not really good at learning languages (partially due to me being mentally impaired) but I have learned bits. If you got any good sites or apps to learn arabic (as used in the Quran), that would be really nice to share.

I don't really want to associate with something like non denominational (no offense) as I think that will simply lead me to where I was before where I was before.


I should also mention me and Jolthig know each other outside of NS.


I decided to become a Sunni muslim indefinitely after research and long thought and prayer Mashallah.
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Postby Unogonduria » Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:27 am

Merien wrote:
Unogonduria wrote:What are the Non-Denominational Muslims, as I see in the poll?


Think of it like this, you know how you have Roman Catholic churches and Eastern Orthodox churches right, now replace those with Sunni and Shia Islam. I personally don't refer to them as denominations but instead as "paths" and usually if one follows a path I don't personally adhere to, I simply just presume them as possibly misguided comparably. I think people interpret Islam differently though so I don't usually look down on anyone who disagree with me unless they have some extreme opinions or completely warped ideas (i.e. the kind of ideas extremists have)

Now we other paths like Ibadi Islam, Ahmadiyya (Which I have a bit of history with), and your question, non denominational Islam.

A non denominational Muslim is one that doesn't adhere/associate with any specific school of thought, consider it as like you later on today accepted Islam and proceeded to become Muslim and recited the Shahada, you either had a good idea of what school to follow, or you barely know nothing (which is ok! You don't have to know stuff like Arabic or how to pray perfectly at the beginning, even I'm still learning to lock in on that), you don't really got to have a school of thought to be Muslim as Allah knows your faith regardless of whatever sect you follow, however, you probably will find what suits you or maybe stick with not associating with any one denomination.

A majority of people choose a denomination, but there's a few who don't, which is perfectly fine.

But doesn't the Quran refer to them as "denominations" or "sects" (virtually the same thing, only that denominations are simply larger sects within a religion)?
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Postby Merien » Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:50 am

Unogonduria wrote:
Merien wrote:
Think of it like this, you know how you have Roman Catholic churches and Eastern Orthodox churches right, now replace those with Sunni and Shia Islam. I personally don't refer to them as denominations but instead as "paths" and usually if one follows a path I don't personally adhere to, I simply just presume them as possibly misguided comparably. I think people interpret Islam differently though so I don't usually look down on anyone who disagree with me unless they have some extreme opinions or completely warped ideas (i.e. the kind of ideas extremists have)

Now we other paths like Ibadi Islam, Ahmadiyya (Which I have a bit of history with), and your question, non denominational Islam.

A non denominational Muslim is one that doesn't adhere/associate with any specific school of thought, consider it as like you later on today accepted Islam and proceeded to become Muslim and recited the Shahada, you either had a good idea of what school to follow, or you barely know nothing (which is ok! You don't have to know stuff like Arabic or how to pray perfectly at the beginning, even I'm still learning to lock in on that), you don't really got to have a school of thought to be Muslim as Allah knows your faith regardless of whatever sect you follow, however, you probably will find what suits you or maybe stick with not associating with any one denomination.

A majority of people choose a denomination, but there's a few who don't, which is perfectly fine.

But doesn't the Quran refer to them as "denominations" or "sects" (virtually the same thing, only that denominations are simply larger sects within a religion)?


Not do I know of. I'm not the most knowledgeable.
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Postby A m e n r i a » Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:57 am

Merien wrote:
Unogonduria wrote:What are the Non-Denominational Muslims, as I see in the poll?


Think of it like this, you know how you have Roman Catholic churches and Eastern Orthodox churches right, now replace those with Sunni and Shia Islam. I personally don't refer to them as denominations but instead as "paths" and usually if one follows a path I don't personally adhere to, I simply just presume them as possibly misguided comparably. I think people interpret Islam differently though so I don't usually look down on anyone who disagree with me unless they have some extreme opinions or completely warped ideas (i.e. the kind of ideas extremists have)

Now we other paths like Ibadi Islam, Ahmadiyya (Which I have a bit of history with), and your question, non denominational Islam.

A non denominational Muslim is one that doesn't adhere/associate with any specific school of thought, consider it as like you later on today accepted Islam and proceeded to become Muslim and recited the Shahada, you either had a good idea of what school to follow, or you barely know nothing (which is ok! You don't have to know stuff like Arabic or how to pray perfectly at the beginning, even I'm still learning to lock in on that), you don't really got to have a school of thought to be Muslim as Allah knows your faith regardless of whatever sect you follow, however, you probably will find what suits you or maybe stick with not associating with any one denomination.

A majority of people choose a denomination, but there's a few who don't, which is perfectly fine.


The majority of us don't choose a denomination, we were born into one. Ever since I was in China I questioned the Shafii school of thought though.

Merien wrote:
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I should also mention me and Jolthig know each other outside of NS.


I decided to become a Sunni muslim indefinitely after research and long thought and prayer Mashallah.


Welcome! Happy to have you!
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Postby Merien » Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:56 pm

A m e n r i a wrote:
Merien wrote:
Think of it like this, you know how you have Roman Catholic churches and Eastern Orthodox churches right, now replace those with Sunni and Shia Islam. I personally don't refer to them as denominations but instead as "paths" and usually if one follows a path I don't personally adhere to, I simply just presume them as possibly misguided comparably. I think people interpret Islam differently though so I don't usually look down on anyone who disagree with me unless they have some extreme opinions or completely warped ideas (i.e. the kind of ideas extremists have)

Now we other paths like Ibadi Islam, Ahmadiyya (Which I have a bit of history with), and your question, non denominational Islam.

A non denominational Muslim is one that doesn't adhere/associate with any specific school of thought, consider it as like you later on today accepted Islam and proceeded to become Muslim and recited the Shahada, you either had a good idea of what school to follow, or you barely know nothing (which is ok! You don't have to know stuff like Arabic or how to pray perfectly at the beginning, even I'm still learning to lock in on that), you don't really got to have a school of thought to be Muslim as Allah knows your faith regardless of whatever sect you follow, however, you probably will find what suits you or maybe stick with not associating with any one denomination.

A majority of people choose a denomination, but there's a few who don't, which is perfectly fine.


The majority of us don't choose a denomination, we were born into one. Ever since I was in China I questioned the Shafii school of thought though.


Yeah, I should have took that in account. I wasn't raised Muslim so I have had to figure the gist out without parental guidance. I'm probably one of the only muslims in my area.

A m e n r i a wrote:
Merien wrote:
I decided to become a Sunni muslim indefinitely after research and long thought and prayer Mashallah.


Welcome! Happy to have you!


Thank you. As-salamu alaikum.
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Postby Elanore » Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:32 pm

how do Moslems in Nordic countries celebrate Ramadan when day/night cycles aren't like in the Middle East?

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Postby Suriyanakhon » Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:24 pm

Unogonduria wrote:What are the Non-Denominational Muslims, as I see in the poll?


I think it's kinda contradictory. Not that they aren't Muslims, just that they probably unknowingly fall into mostly one school for the most part.
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Merien wrote:
Think of it like this, you know how you have Roman Catholic churches and Eastern Orthodox churches right, now replace those with Sunni and Shia Islam. I personally don't refer to them as denominations but instead as "paths" and usually if one follows a path I don't personally adhere to, I simply just presume them as possibly misguided comparably. I think people interpret Islam differently though so I don't usually look down on anyone who disagree with me unless they have some extreme opinions or completely warped ideas (i.e. the kind of ideas extremists have)

Now we other paths like Ibadi Islam, Ahmadiyya (Which I have a bit of history with), and your question, non denominational Islam.

A non denominational Muslim is one that doesn't adhere/associate with any specific school of thought, consider it as like you later on today accepted Islam and proceeded to become Muslim and recited the Shahada, you either had a good idea of what school to follow, or you barely know nothing (which is ok! You don't have to know stuff like Arabic or how to pray perfectly at the beginning, even I'm still learning to lock in on that), you don't really got to have a school of thought to be Muslim as Allah knows your faith regardless of whatever sect you follow, however, you probably will find what suits you or maybe stick with not associating with any one denomination.

A majority of people choose a denomination, but there's a few who don't, which is perfectly fine.


The majority of us don't choose a denomination, we were born into one. Ever since I was in China I questioned the Shafii school of thought though.


I always felt partial to Shia for various reasons (none of them cultural despite my fondness for Persian art) and the more I read, the more it made sense to me. Originally thought about converting to Nizari Ismaili but Agha Khan IV put me at ill ease so I decided to stick with Twelverism.
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Postby Merien » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:54 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
I always felt partial to Shia for various reasons (none of them cultural despite my fondness for Persian art) and the more I read, the more it made sense to me. Originally thought about converting to Nizari Ismaili but Agha Khan IV put me at ill ease so I decided to stick with Twelverism.


Makes sense, I chose to be Sunni because that was mostly around me, I dabbled in Ahmadiyya but decided that wasn't the path for me.
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Postby Merien » Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:00 pm

Elanore wrote:how do Moslems in Nordic countries celebrate Ramadan when day/night cycles aren't like in the Middle East?


The same way we all do, unless you mean the Arctic. I'm pretty sure most people in Arctic area that are Muslim tend to break fast when a more southern region does.
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Postby Merien » Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:37 am

I've started looking at Shia Islam and I'm actually kind of interested.
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:48 pm

Merien wrote:I've started looking at Shia Islam and I'm actually kind of interested.


Al-Islam is a pretty good resource.
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Postby Merien » Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:18 am

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Merien wrote:I've started looking at Shia Islam and I'm actually kind of interested.


Al-Islam is a pretty good resource.


Looks good.
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Postby Merien » Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:42 am

I'm not going to lie, Shia Islam makes more sense to at this moment. I actually was convinced it was even more strict than Sunni Islam but I think thats a effect due to whats happening in Iran and not really all Shia Muslims overall.
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:55 am

Merien wrote:I'm not going to lie, Shia Islam makes more sense to at this moment. I actually was convinced it was even more strict than Sunni Islam but I think thats a effect due to whats happening in Iran and not really all Shia Muslims overall.

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Postby Katganistan » Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:37 pm

May this Eid bring peace, prosperity, and happiness to everyone’s life. Eid Mubarak!

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Katganistan wrote:May this Eid bring peace, prosperity, and happiness to everyone’s life. Eid Mubarak!


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Postby Southland » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:36 pm

Elanore wrote:how do Moslems in Nordic countries celebrate Ramadan when day/night cycles aren't like in the Middle East?


One person I knew that lived very close to the Arctic circle would follow the times in Mecca instead.

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Postby Merien » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:11 am

Katganistan wrote:May this Eid bring peace, prosperity, and happiness to everyone’s life. Eid Mubarak!


As-salamu Alaikum! Thank you!
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Postby Merien » Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:48 am

I want to admit that I have been highly struggling on prayer. I am still trying to learn but the amount of time I take at it is so long that its lead me to not pray.

I know repetition is good and I know if I keep trying I'll get better, but everyday, I see wild things like "Their salat was not accepted so they never got to Jannah" which scare the daylights out of me. I know that the point of those are to just catch my eye but I want to know, what happens if you miss prayer?

On a side note, does anyone know any good apps for new muslims? Especially helping with doing prayer?
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:33 pm

Eid Mubarak all
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