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Who do you support?

Liberal/National Coalition
25
14%
Labor
36
21%
Greens
28
16%
One Nation
17
10%
Centre Alliance
11
6%
Katter's Australian Party
15
9%
United Australia
10
6%
Liberal Democrats
15
9%
Others(tell us who)
18
10%
 
Total votes : 175

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Liriena
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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:46 pm

It's a bit weird to see an election in an English-speaking nation where it's not the left that's divided into dozens of increasingly small parties. Critical support for Labour, of course.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:53 pm

Liriena wrote:It's a bit weird to see an election in an English-speaking nation where it's not the left that's divided into dozens of increasingly small parties. Critical support for Labour, of course.


Oh, it's divided enough. Progressives tend to give Greens first over Labor, for example.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:56 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Liriena wrote:It's a bit weird to see an election in an English-speaking nation where it's not the left that's divided into dozens of increasingly small parties. Critical support for Labour, of course.


Oh, it's divided enough. Progressives tend to give Greens first over Labor, for example.

At least tell me that the Australian Greens don't have dumb ideas about nuclear power like their American cousins.
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Shrillland
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:03 pm

Liriena wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Oh, it's divided enough. Progressives tend to give Greens first over Labor, for example.

At least tell me that the Australian Greens don't have dumb ideas about nuclear power like their American cousins.


Actually....

https://greens.org.au/policies/nuclear-and-uranium

There's still the Science Party, they're running candidates for Senate and House in ACT and NSW, and they endorse nuclear energy.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:36 pm

The thing about nukes is they are deteraints to war. Nobody wants mutually assured destruction. Therefore, I'd rather nuclear deteraints than war
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Postby East Meranopirus » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:58 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Liriena wrote:Actually....

https://greens.org.au/policies/nuclear-and-uranium

There's still the Science Party, they're running candidates for Senate and House in ACT and NSW, and they endorse nuclear energy.

Sigh...

Maybe I should reconsider my support for the Greens. But then, it's not like I love any of the parties. Labor is too union-focused for its own good.
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Grater Tovakia
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Postby Grater Tovakia » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:59 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:The thing about nukes is they are deteraints to war. Nobody wants mutually assured destruction. Therefore, I'd rather nuclear deteraints than war


You ever hear of a tactical nuke son?
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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:43 am

Liriena wrote:It's a bit weird to see an election in an English-speaking nation where it's not the left that's divided into dozens of increasingly small parties. Critical support for Labour, of course.


The left tends to be a bit more united in Anglophone countries, or at least those with Westminster systems. Generally speaking there's usually a Labour Party and a Green Party that will usually compose the elected left bloc of Parliament, Labour being more mainstream and "generic" (or big tent) and the Greens being more orientated towards social justice and environmental policies.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:44 am

Shrillland wrote:
Liriena wrote:At least tell me that the Australian Greens don't have dumb ideas about nuclear power like their American cousins.


Actually....

https://greens.org.au/policies/nuclear-and-uranium

There's still the Science Party, they're running candidates for Senate and House in ACT and NSW, and they endorse nuclear energy.


Yeah, never look to the Greens for any kind of progressive policies on nuclear energy.
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Slotted Floppies
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Ex-Nation

Postby Slotted Floppies » Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:52 am

So looks like I’m not voting in the federal elections either.
It’s really too much trouble getting re enrolled when this is the selection of parties we have to choose from.

Seriously global environmental catastrophe cannot come fast enough.
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Special Aromas
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Postby Special Aromas » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:16 am

Slotted Floppies wrote:So looks like I’m not voting in the federal elections either.
It’s really too much trouble getting re enrolled when this is the selection of parties we have to choose from.

Seriously global environmental catastrophe cannot come fast enough.

Choosing between a centre-left party and a centre-right party in one of the most developed countries on earth makes you wish the world would end?

ho-kay

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Shrillland
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:37 am

Slotted Floppies wrote:So looks like I’m not voting in the federal elections either.
It’s really too much trouble getting re enrolled when this is the selection of parties we have to choose from.

Seriously global environmental catastrophe cannot come fast enough.


But there were so many others at least for the Senate...and the Greens aren't half-bad unlike in a lot of other countries where they don't take themselves seriously.
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Postby Slotted Floppies » Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:24 am

Shrillland wrote:
Slotted Floppies wrote:So looks like I’m not voting in the federal elections either.
It’s really too much trouble getting re enrolled when this is the selection of parties we have to choose from.

Seriously global environmental catastrophe cannot come fast enough.


But there were so many others at least for the Senate...and the Greens aren't half-bad unlike in a lot of other countries where they don't take themselves seriously.


The greens yeah no.
I’m more of a abolish the welfare state and make the recipients pay back their money to the people it was stolen from kinda guy. This includes corporate welfare.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:28 am

Slotted Floppies wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
But there were so many others at least for the Senate...and the Greens aren't half-bad unlike in a lot of other countries where they don't take themselves seriously.


The greens yeah no.
I’m more of a abolish the welfare state and make the recipients pay back their money to the people it was stolen from kinda guy. This includes corporate welfare.


Ah, so the Liberal Democrats are more your thing, then.
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Postby Slotted Floppies » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:08 am

Shrillland wrote:
Slotted Floppies wrote:
The greens yeah no.
I’m more of a abolish the welfare state and make the recipients pay back their money to the people it was stolen from kinda guy. This includes corporate welfare.


Ah, so the Liberal Democrats are more your thing, then.


Yeah my thing in the same way as a cup of lukewarm water that has been used to clean fungi from someone’s sinuses is a tea drinkers thing. Also the booger water may be the most appealing just because everyone else is stirring their drinks with turds. But it’s still isn’t a beer.
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Postby Shrillland » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:17 pm

Well, most of the how-to cards are now out, so we'll get a better idea of what the parties prefer.
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Postby East Meranopirus » Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:55 am

Shrillland wrote:Well, most of the how-to cards are now out, so we'll get a better idea of what the parties prefer.

IMO, no self-respecting voter should follow those how-to-vote cards.
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Postby Slavakino » Wed May 01, 2019 9:04 pm

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Postby Slotted Floppies » Wed May 01, 2019 9:05 pm

Slavakino wrote:Add Fraser Annings Conservative National


Can we not, say we didn’t and avoid the shame?
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Postby Slavakino » Thu May 02, 2019 7:32 pm

Slotted Floppies wrote:
Slavakino wrote:Add Fraser Annings Conservative National


Can we not, say we didn’t and avoid the shame?

Can we do?
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Postby Slotted Floppies » Thu May 02, 2019 8:03 pm

Slavakino wrote:
Slotted Floppies wrote:
Can we not, say we didn’t and avoid the shame?

Can we do?


At most we should vaguely reference a bigot who got justifiably egged. With no reference to his name.
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Postby Slavakino » Thu May 02, 2019 8:33 pm

Slotted Floppies wrote:
Slavakino wrote:Can we do?


At most we should vaguely reference a bigot who got justifiably egged. With no reference to his name.

Yeah, but his party is gaining popularity so its only logical to add it in
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Postby Slotted Floppies » Thu May 02, 2019 9:17 pm

Slavakino wrote:
Slotted Floppies wrote:
At most we should vaguely reference a bigot who got justifiably egged. With no reference to his name.

Yeah, but his party is gaining popularity so its only logical to add it in


Or we could do the right thing and deport the people following him.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu May 02, 2019 9:44 pm

Slavakino wrote:
Slotted Floppies wrote:
At most we should vaguely reference a bigot who got justifiably egged. With no reference to his name.

Yeah, but his party is gaining popularity so its only logical to add it in


If I do that, it'll reset the poll, which is why I don't do it very often, least of all for a party that'll probably only manage one senator.
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Postby Slotted Floppies » Thu May 02, 2019 9:58 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Slavakino wrote:Yeah, but his party is gaining popularity so its only logical to add it in


If I do that, it'll reset the poll, which is why I don't do it very often, least of all for a party that'll probably only manage one senator.


Do we have to call him a senator, he didn’t get there on merit. Can’t we call him “a minor hiccup in our preference system.”

It’s accurate, it’s fair, and Australia doesn’t get too shamed by his existing.
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