¡Voto Plus Ultra 2: Boogaloo Eléctrico!(Spanish Election)

[Shrillland]

The deadline is only one week away, and now King Felipe is getting involved: https://www.yahoo.com/news/spains-king-opens-talks-break-political-impasse-100509215.html

[Forumland]

The deadline is only one week away, and now King Felipe is getting involved: https://www.yahoo.com/news/spains-king-opens-talks-break-political-impasse-100509215.html

The more important takeaway from that article is this:

Speaking on Spanish television, Rivera proposed that both Ciudadanos and the rightwing Popular Party jointly abstain during any investiture vote.

In exchange, he said, Sanchez must agree not to pardon 12 Catalan separatist leaders who led a failed 2017 bid for independence, triggering Spain's worst political crisis in decades.

Spain's Supreme Court is to rule on the case next month.

Rivera also asked Sanchez not to hike taxes.

However, Riviera had another condition, which was to tell Sanchez to break a deal with Basque nationalists in Navarre (source). this looks like both C’s and the PP trying to duck responsibility for a potential snap election

[Shrillland]

The deadline is only one week away, and now King Felipe is getting involved: https://www.yahoo.com/news/spains-king-opens-talks-break-political-impasse-100509215.html

The more important takeaway from that article is this:

Speaking on Spanish television, Rivera proposed that both Ciudadanos and the rightwing Popular Party jointly abstain during any investiture vote.

In exchange, he said, Sanchez must agree not to pardon 12 Catalan separatist leaders who led a failed 2017 bid for independence, triggering Spain's worst political crisis in decades.

Spain's Supreme Court is to rule on the case next month.

Rivera also asked Sanchez not to hike taxes.

However, Riviera had another condition, which was to tell Sanchez to break a deal with Basque nationalists in Navarre (source). this looks like both C’s and the PP trying to duck responsibility for a potential snap election

Well, there was no way that Sanchez would get a government without them, even if he could get Iglesias to see reason.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

The deadline is only one week away, and now King Felipe is getting involved: https://www.yahoo.com/news/spains-king-opens-talks-break-political-impasse-100509215.html

The more important takeaway from that article is this:

Speaking on Spanish television, Rivera proposed that both Ciudadanos and the rightwing Popular Party jointly abstain during any investiture vote.

In exchange, he said, Sanchez must agree not to pardon 12 Catalan separatist leaders who led a failed 2017 bid for independence, triggering Spain's worst political crisis in decades.

Spain's Supreme Court is to rule on the case next month.

Rivera also asked Sanchez not to hike taxes.

However, Riviera had another condition, which was to tell Sanchez to break a deal with Basque nationalists in Navarre (source). this looks like both C’s and the PP trying to duck responsibility for a potential snap election

Seriously? Isn’t the cease fire enough? At least Basque nationalists haven’t caused any problems for a while, last I heard. Let things stand as they are. Spain needs a government.

[Dresderstan]

The king declined to propose any candidate ahead of the September 23rd deadline, an election on November 10th is all but certain.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Is there a Party where Social Democracy and Social Liberalism Combine ?

[Shrillland]

Among the national parties, no.

Now the election has more or less officially been scheduled, stand by for an updated OP.

[Shrillland]

OP is now updated and so is my preference.

[Dresderstan]

I think PSOE will win the election and officially hold more seats than the PP, while getting C&S from Unidos Podemos.

Oh how wrong I was just months ago. PSOE will most likely have the most seats but PP is catching up with Podemos, C's and Vox suffering from losses.

[Blargoblarg]

I'm hoping either Unidos Podemos or PSOE do well.

[Nakena]

I like how nobody in the poll likes PP and instead goes for Vox directly. xD

[Kowani]

I like how nobody in the poll likes PP and instead goes for Vox directly. xD

Yes, people who know nothing about Spanish politics supporting the worst party in the country. Marvelous.

[Nakena]

I like how nobody in the poll likes PP and instead goes for Vox directly. xD

Yes, people who know nothing about Spanish politics supporting the worst party in the country. Marvelous.

Supposedly Vox is quite the party to go with currently. In some corners they say so.

But probably people who aren't in Spain either.

[Kowani]

Yes, people who know nothing about Spanish politics supporting the worst party in the country. Marvelous.

Supposedly Vox is quite the party to go with currently. In some corners they say so.

Vox is as much as the party to go with as phrenology is a science.

But probably people who aren't in Spain either.

Well, as far as I know, there aren’t 64 Spaniards on this site, so…

[Nakena]

Vox is as much as the party to go with as phrenology is a science.

But aren't they somehow based? /pol/ told me so.

Eitherway, I like how the PP is instant discarded in-and-between.

Well, as far as I know, there aren’t 64 Spaniards on this site, so…

It's rather unlikely.

[Kowani]

Vox is as much as the party to go with as phrenology is a science.

But aren't they somehow based?

No.

Eitherway, I like how the PP is instant discarded in-and-between.

Insert generic comment about radicalization.

[Shrillland]

Yes, people who know nothing about Spanish politics supporting the worst party in the country. Marvelous.

Supposedly Vox is quite the party to go with currently. In some corners they say so.

But probably people who aren't in Spain either.

In some corners, meaning those who secretly keep the old portraits of Franco hidden away in the hope they can bring them back out...remember, there have been Vox leaders who've gotten in trouble for supporting Neo-Falangist groups.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I like how nobody in the poll likes PP and instead goes for Vox directly. xD

PP really is a shit party.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Supposedly Vox is quite the party to go with currently. In some corners they say so.

But probably people who aren't in Spain either.

In some corners, meaning those who secretly keep the old portraits of Franco hidden away in the hope they can bring them back out...remember, there have been Vox leaders who've gotten in trouble for supporting Neo-Falangist groups.

There are a lot of people who did have a better life under Franco. Even though he was a butcher. There are people back home who still praise him.

[Shrillland]

In some corners, meaning those who secretly keep the old portraits of Franco hidden away in the hope they can bring them back out...remember, there have been Vox leaders who've gotten in trouble for supporting Neo-Falangist groups.

There are a lot of people who did have a better life under Franco. Even though he was a butcher. There are people back home who still praise him.

Same could be said of many dictators of the mid-range Rightist Condor persuasion in all honesty, but few of them are still willing to see praising them as socially acceptable, thankfully.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

There are a lot of people who did have a better life under Franco. Even though he was a butcher. There are people back home who still praise him.

Same could be said of many dictators of the mid-range Rightist Condor persuasion in all honesty, but few of them are still willing to see praising them as socially acceptable, thankfully.

Indeed, but it happens. I’ve heard a few Romanians reminisce with nostalgia about Ceausescu.

[Nakena]

In some corners, meaning those who secretly keep the old portraits of Franco hidden away in the hope they can bring them back out...remember, there have been Vox leaders who've gotten in trouble for supporting Neo-Falangist groups.

There are a lot of people who did have a better life under Franco. Even though he was a butcher. There are people back home who still praise him.

Like they felt better? Given that economic conditions were somewhat more poorer then. Or is it more nostalgia?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

There are a lot of people who did have a better life under Franco. Even though he was a butcher. There are people back home who still praise him.

Like they felt better? Given that economic conditions were somewhat more poorer then. Or is it more nostalgia?

Economically, some people were better off. Particularly those who found jobs in the Francoist regime. There’s some nostalgia involved too.

[Bienenhalde]

I like how nobody in the poll likes PP and instead goes for Vox directly. xD

I find it quite unfortunate. Much good has come of conservatism, but I generally do not trust populist rabble-rousers. Well, good thing NSG is not responsible for electing the Spanish parliament.

[Nakena]

I like how nobody in the poll likes PP and instead goes for Vox directly. xD

I find it quite unfortunate. Much good has come of conservatism, but I generally do not trust populist rabble-rousers. Well, good thing NSG is not responsible for electing the Spanish parliament.

The PP is the party of ruthless corruption and crony capitalism in conservative attires.