Photo of Governor of Virginia in Blackface Surfaces

[Shrillland]

Personally, I think they should all be considered innocent until proven guilty. Just because I disagree with their politics is no reason to think otherwise. If they are guilty, then they should resign, and if that ends up putting an unelected person in charge then so be it. Maybe the Dems will learn to either vet their candidates better, or quit trying to hold themselves to different standard.

I dont think what either Northam or Herring did is worthy of a resignation. I hereby retract my statement in the OP called for the Governor to resign. No crime was committed by the Governor or the Attorney General

The Lt. Governor is a another matter. If guilty he should resign as what he is accused of his a crime but I do not think mere allegations should be able to ruin a career. There ought to be investigation like in the case of Keith Ellison in Minnesota where the Minneapolis police found nothing to corroborate his accuser's claims

It's still damning enough that we would lose Virginia next year, and we can't afford to lose Virginia. Northam's about face is the reason I want his resignation as is Herring's hypocrisy. Those events came out in the wrong order for anyone to forgive him.

[Mystic Warriors]

I dont think what either Northam or Herring did is worthy of a resignation. I hereby retract my statement in the OP called for the Governor to resign. No crime was committed by the Governor or the Attorney General

The Lt. Governor is a another matter. If guilty he should resign as what he is accused of his a crime but I do not think mere allegations should be able to ruin a career. There ought to be investigation like in the case of Keith Ellison in Minnesota where the Minneapolis police found nothing to corroborate his accuser's claims

It's still damning enough that we would lose Virginia next year, and we can't afford to lose Virginia. Northam's about face is the reason I want his resignation as is Herring's hypocrisy. Those events came out in the wrong order for anyone to forgive him.

Could; not would. It is possible to hate one person in the party, but not the party as a whole.

[Yusseria]

Thank goodness the most embarrassing photo of me from college is me shitfaced at a halloween party where I dressed up as a sailor.

If you were not seen for 5 minutes...

It's been festering for decades.

Now we have the Republican Senate Majority leader who was the editor of a yearbook with a couple black face pictures. His argument? I'm not in them nor did I take them.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/08/politics ... index.html

A republican edited it? This reeks of a setup more and more. They both need to call them on it.

Since Virginia's Democrats are not about to give up the executive mansion, looks like they'll have an ex-blackface governor.

As they shouldn't. The GOP needs to be investigate though.

"Democrats dressed up in blackface... clearly the GOP needs to be investigated."

Why are you like this?

[The Archregimancy]

I found this article about the history of blackface in the United States of interest.

Author Rhae Lynn Barnes has written the forthcoming book Darkology: When the American Dream Wore Blackface, and the article adds some useful historical context.


It's not as if us Brits are in any position to lecture our American cousins on this one. The first television programme I ever saw in colour (the irony doesn't escape me) was The Black and White Minstrel Show, which ran on the BBC until 1978, with the official spin-off stage showing running until 1989 (though it had been the subject of anti-racism protests since the late '60s).

[Space Captain Brian Surgeon]

I found this article about the history of blackface in the United States of interest.

Author Rhae Lynn Barnes has written the forthcoming book Darkology: When the American Dream Wore Blackface, and the article adds some useful historical context.


It's not as if us Brits are in any position to lecture our American cousins on this one. The first television programme I ever saw in colour (the irony doesn't escape me) was The Black and White Minstrel Show, which ran on the BBC until 1978, with the official spin-off stage showing running until 1989 (though it had been the subject of anti-racism protests since the late '60s).

Good grief I remember The Black and White Minstrel Show, but I thought it ended in the late sixties.

[San Lumen]

It's still damning enough that we would lose Virginia next year, and we can't afford to lose Virginia. Northam's about face is the reason I want his resignation as is Herring's hypocrisy. Those events came out in the wrong order for anyone to forgive him.

Could; not would. It is possible to hate one person in the party, but not the party as a whole.

I don’t think people will remember Northam or Herring’s scandal come November when the state legislature is up for election. Plus he has said he will spend the rest of his term focusing on racial equality and healing racial divides

[Grinning Dragon]

Could; not would. It is possible to hate one person in the party, but not the party as a whole.

I don’t think people will remember Northam or Herring’s scandal come November when the state legislature is up for election. Plus he has said he will spend the rest of his term focusing on racial equality and healing racial divides

Of course they will remember, as with any election/re-election, the dirt, scandals and misdirects will be front and center in just about every tv ad.

[San Lumen]

I don’t think people will remember Northam or Herring’s scandal come November when the state legislature is up for election. Plus he has said he will spend the rest of his term focusing on racial equality and healing racial divides

Of course they will remember, as with any election/re-election, the dirt, scandals and misdirects will be front and center in just about every tv ad.

Keith Ellison of Minnesota would like a word with you and the key groups in Virginia are still behind Democrats

[Grinning Dragon]

Of course they will remember, as with any election/re-election, the dirt, scandals and misdirects will be front and center in just about every tv ad.

Keith Ellison would like a word with you and the key groups in Virginia are still behind Democrats

While keith ellison is a piece of shit, his infraction isn't nearly as gold as the one occurring in va.

[ShakaZuli]

Conservatives can’t agree if blackface is always racist

With Virginia Democrats caught up in scandal, from state reps to the governor, Vox is here to remind us conservatives are definitely at fault here

Wearing a black face is racist only because the media and the left decalred so. The guy probably was looking a way to joke rather to insult blacks.

[San Lumen]

Keith Ellison would like a word with you and the key groups in Virginia are still behind Democrats

While keith ellison is a piece of shit, his infraction isn't nearly as gold as the one occurring in va.

Oh really? He was accused of assault and the Minneapolis police determined via a investigation that it could not be corroborated

[Latialand]

To be fair, I don't really get it why the Democratic Party want him to step down as Governor?

I mean it's not like that we are talking about the same Democratic Party who is pretty okay with Robert Byrd being a literal former KKK member

[The Archregimancy]

To be fair, I don't really get it why the Democratic Party want him to step down as Governor?

I mean it's not like that we are talking about the same Democratic Party who is pretty okay with Robert Byrd being a literal former KKK member

Robert Byrd has been dead for 9 years; and as the present case so amply demonstrates, attitudes can change over time.

[Conserative Morality]

Conservatives can’t agree if blackface is always racist

With Virginia Democrats caught up in scandal, from state reps to the governor, Vox is here to remind us conservatives are definitely at fault here

Wearing a black face is racist only because the media and the left decalred so. The guy probably was looking a way to joke rather to insult blacks.

Thank you for proving the point Hakons was trying to mock.

[Latialand]

To be fair, I don't really get it why the Democratic Party want him to step down as Governor?

I mean it's not like that we are talking about the same Democratic Party who is pretty okay with Robert Byrd being a literal former KKK member

Robert Byrd has been dead for 9 years; and as the present case so amply demonstrates, attitudes can change over time.

Look

I am not one of those "hurr durr liberals are the real racists" baby boomer, but I find something fishy about all of this

[ShakaZuli]

Wearing a black face is racist only because the media and the left decalred so. The guy probably was looking a way to joke rather to insult blacks.

Thank you for proving the point Hakons was trying to mock.

And what is wrong in my statement? Freaking out over a black face is retarded. boo-hoo Black and liberal fragility there.

[San Lumen]

Robert Byrd has been dead for 9 years; and as the present case so amply demonstrates, attitudes can change over time.

Look

I am not one of those "hurr durr liberals are the real racists" baby boomer, but I find something fishy about all of this

fishy in what way?

[Byzconia]

At first, I would've disagreed with you. When the story first broke, my attitude was, "Well, it was a stupid thing, but it happened in the past and might not mean anything today." IMO, he initially did the right thing by fessing up and apologizing. However, he then decided to say that, "Wait, no, it totally wasn't me guys! Sorry, I just forgot that I totally didn't do blackface!" Then he made it even worse by saying, "Ya see, I remember now. If that were me, I'd totally remember, because I remember the other time I did blackface in a Michael Jackson dance contest."

The dude has shoved his foot so far into his own mouth that he's chewing on his own thigh at this point. At this point, he should step down, if only because he's hurting himself more by remaining in the public eye. Seriously, how is it that hard? When something unfortunate from your past shows up you admit to it, apologize, and hope it dies down--it's not rocket science.

[Greed and Death]

Conservatives can’t agree if blackface is always racist

With Virginia Democrats caught up in scandal, from state reps to the governor, Vox is here to remind us conservatives are definitely at fault here

Wearing a black face is racist only because the media and the left decalred so. The guy probably was looking a way to joke rather to insult blacks.

Black face is racist because there is a history of it being used to demean black people. If the history had only been that it was used for when the role called for a black person but no black actors were available we would not be having this conversation.

[Greed and Death]

At first, I would've disagreed with you. When the story first broke, my attitude was, "Well, it was a stupid thing, but it happened in the past and might not mean anything today." IMO, he initially did the right thing by fessing up and apologizing. However, he then decided to say that, "Wait, no, it totally wasn't me guys! Sorry, I just forgot that I totally didn't do blackface!" Then he made it even worse by saying, "Ya see, I remember now. If that were me, I'd totally remember, because I remember the other time I did blackface in a Michael Jackson dance contest."

The dude has shoved his foot so far into his own mouth that he's chewing on his own thigh at this point. At this point, he should step down, if only because he's hurting himself more by remaining in the public eye. Seriously, how is it that hard? When something unfortunate from your past shows up you admit to it, apologize, and hope it dies down--it's not rocket science.

Don't forget calling slaves from Africa Indentured servants. This guy is Antebellum.

[Shrillland]

Well, it appears that the legislature may be taking action against Fairfax: https://www.yahoo.com/news/virginia-lieutenant-governor-resists-calls-105755673.html

[San Lumen]

Well, it appears that the legislature may be taking action against Fairfax: https://www.yahoo.com/news/virginia-lieutenant-governor-resists-calls-105755673.html

I still believe there ought to be a investigation. I believe in innocent until proven guilty

[Shrillland]

Well, it appears that the legislature may be taking action against Fairfax: https://www.yahoo.com/news/virginia-lieutenant-governor-resists-calls-105755673.html

I still believe there ought to be a investigation. I believe in innocent until proven guilty

No one's saying there shouldn't be one here, but it's not likely.

[San Lumen]

I still believe there ought to be a investigation. I believe in innocent until proven guilty

No one's saying there shouldn't be one here, but it's not likely.

why not?

[Shrillland]

No one's saying there shouldn't be one here, but it's not likely.

why not?

Because they're panicking over all that's happened knowing that they have to get rid of the worst problems now instead of later.