World Health Organization says "Anti-Vaxxers are a threat."

[Diannaoguo]

It's actually just the first one.

it is the first one by default, the second one by fast comparison to death toll of other threats, and possibly the third one, cannot evaluate

The risks of adverse side effects are so slim that it's not really something to worry about.

due to limits in understanding of biology i cannot evaluate risks of adverse side effects. neither can you or anyone using public intelligence

One of them is wrong and it ain't me.

it is also possible to argue with someone who is not arguing with you, in this case only you have possibility of wrong because only you have made argument.

consider following argument:

me: A or B or C
you: A, not B

in this argument, it is possible that we are both wrong, or it is possible that we are both right, or it is possible that i am right and you are wrong. however it is impossible for you to be wrong while i am right because your argument is one of several cases which are compatible with my argument

Ah, so this was all a game?

this is recreational internet conversation, it is word game. it cannot be work because no one pays me, it cannot be socialization because i am writing alone in apartment

[Xmara]

The odds are slim, but still better safe than sorry.

(event probability)*(event severity) comparison strongly recommends smallpox vaccination over polio vaccination. smallpox unlikely event would create historical tragedy, poliovirus unlikely event would create TV show episode

Polio is still a threat though. At this moment, smallpox is not.

In 2014, that number was up to 19,898, which is an even higher number than the 1,755 recorded cases in the Americas in 2000. Measles are coming back, and it's all because of anti-vaxxers.

read me death toll from measles recurrence and you will also explain why this is nuisance infection with one number.

The odds of death may be low, but zero measles deaths are better than one or two deaths.

opiate abuse and transport accidents are much greater threat.

Of course they are threats. No one is denying that. Both of those hit close to home for me as I know people who've died or almost died from both.

unfortunately there are no dedicated cult believers in opiate abuse and transport accidents who will argue for that

No clue what you're saying here.

Then why are you giving your opinion anyway?

i only give correct methodology to evaluate problem.

You're not always right. The sooner you accept that the better your life will be.

this is only to demonstrate that here we like to argue but have no patience to evaluate problem, we only form bandwagon and write negative feelings about contrary position

Again, no clue what you're saying.

Are you insinuating that vaccines cause autism? Because that's been debunked a thousand times over.

the theory that the word 'debunked' means 'proven false' and not 'agitated against' has been debunked

de·bunk
/dēˈbəNGk/
verb
expose the falseness or hollowness of (a myth, idea, or belief).

however the theory that mild autism is not a positive adaption to the modern world assembly line structure of repetitive intellectual work has not been debunked.

if vaccines are not causing autism then most important thing for us to do as society is investigate if we need more autism and if we do find ways to make more of it

Make America autistic again?

[Xmara]

It's actually just the first one.

it is the first one by default, the second one by fast comparison to death toll of other threats, and possibly the third one, cannot evaluate

The risks of adverse side effects are so slim that it's not really something to worry about.

due to limits in understanding of biology i cannot evaluate risks of adverse side effects. neither can you or anyone using public intelligence

I'm a biology major, so...

One of them is wrong and it ain't me.

it is also possible to argue with someone who is not arguing with you, in this case only you have possibility of wrong because only you have made argument.

What?

consider following argument:

me: A or B or C
you: A, not B

in this argument, it is possible that we are both wrong, or it is possible that we are both right, or it is possible that i am right and you are wrong. however it is impossible for you to be wrong while i am right because your argument is one of several cases which are compatible with my argument

I see your point, but not sure what this has to do with anything.

[Diannaoguo]

Polio is still a threat though. At this moment, smallpox is not.

"this statement is false because you do not have enough information to conclude that smallpox will not be used as a biological weapon"

OR

"this statement is true because you possess superhuman future telling power which lets you know that there will not be war again ever"

The odds of death may be low, but zero measles deaths are better than one or two deaths.

does not make top 100 list of public health problems. maybe not even 1,000. pit bull attacks, accidental drownings, allergic reaction to bee stings...

internet says 60 deaths per year because of bee stings.

Of course they are threats. No one is denying that. Both of those hit close to home for me as I know people who've died or almost died from both.

No clue what you're saying here.

what i am saying is that if we start coordinated infiltration of vegan forums arguing for vegans to give peanut butter to babies, eventually a baby would die from peanut butter allergy if we applied propaganda science techniques

the correct response would be counter information campaign. side effect of this counterpropaganda would be that many information consumers to think that people giving peanut butter to babies was doing a significant damage to public health

bigger threat would still be bee stings, and then a thousand other things like cancer and cars

Make America autistic again?

correct methodology is to review rates of autism / autistic personality spectrum in high performance technical workers like programmer and see if autism predicts interest or success in labor areas that will not be eliminated by technology growth

[The Blaatschapen]

Polio is still a threat though. At this moment, smallpox is not.

"this statement is false because you do not have enough information to conclude that smallpox will not be used as a biological weapon"

OR

"this statement is true because you possess superhuman future telling power which lets you know that there will not be war again ever"

The odds of death may be low, but zero measles deaths are better than one or two deaths.

does not make top 100 list of public health problems. maybe not even 1,000. pit bull attacks, accidental drownings, allergic reaction to bee stings...

internet says 60 deaths per year because of bee stings.

Luckily, bees are dying.

Wait

[Salandriagado]

I struggle to explain what exactly IS autism despite having it, let alone comprehending what exactly causes it.

There is no brightline, objective test either.
In many cases you can make an valid argument a person has it and does not have it.
And not be objectively right or wrong.

Actually, there are some papers coming out soon-ish that should change that: there are some physical differences in the brain that you can pick up on various kinds of scans. They're just ridiculously a pain in the arse to do, among some other problems.

[Indo States]

What does Anti-Vaxxers and Vaxxers Mean?

[Andsed]

What does Anti-Vaxxers and Vaxxers Mean?

Anti Vaxxers are people who refuse to get vaccinated for multiple dumb reasons.

[The New California Republic]

Polio is still a threat though. At this moment, smallpox is not.

"this statement is false because you do not have enough information to conclude that smallpox will not be used as a biological weapon"

OR

"this statement is true because you possess superhuman future telling power which lets you know that there will not be war again ever"

It is highly unlikely that smallpox or any similar disease will ever be used as a biological weapon, as biological weapons are notoriously hard to control once released, and the risks to one's own population and military forces are equivalent to the enemy being targeted. Chemical weapons, on the other hand, are much easier to control and can have their persistency in the environment fine-tuned. However, once a biological weapon is out of containment then it tends to persist in the environment and remain infectious, unless extreme containment and cleanup measures are taken.

[Novus America]

"this statement is false because you do not have enough information to conclude that smallpox will not be used as a biological weapon"

OR

"this statement is true because you possess superhuman future telling power which lets you know that there will not be war again ever"

It is highly unlikely that smallpox or any similar disease will ever be used as a biological weapon, as biological weapons are notoriously hard to control once released, and the risks to one's own population and military forces are equivalent to the enemy being targeted. Chemical weapons, on the other hand, are much easier to control and can have their persistency in the environment fine-tuned. However, once a biological weapon is out of containment then it tends to persist in the environment and remain infectious, unless extreme containment and cleanup measures are taken.

Highly unlikely to be used by a rational state actor engaging in conventional warfare, yes.
But it could be used by an actor not conforming to those criteria...

[Crockerland]

The truth is that vaccines use heavy metals like Mercury and Newton's Net to wipe the human mind of its memories pertaining to specific events, devices, and phenomena which the Paleolithic Deep State would rather we not know about, both before and after that information has been learned; For example, the Patterson-Gimlin Massacre, the Walking Through Walls Training System, or self-burying hoses are unknown to the vast majority of vaccine recipients.

The Paleolithic Deep State's usage of concepts like having a "License to Practice Medicine", "basic medical ethics", or "the Geneva Convention" makes sure the people who agree with them stay in power in for-profit medicine and those who don't will be arrested and face trial. Its the same sort of phony science that allows GMO's to do bad evil things (I don't know what they do but I heard they were bad on wakeup-world.com) and evil Nuclear power to drive clean-burning Styrofoam power plants and alternative, renewable fuels like Whale Oil out of business.

A great nation such as, for example, Uganda, where one can practice medicine with only an associate's degree in witchcraft, can create much better means for dealing with plagues than the mind control vaccines the one-world government desires us to partake in: The enlightened Ugandan people discovered that you can, indeed, use industrial bleach as a superior alternative to vaccines.

In conclusion, I think every government on our flat Earth should ban vaccines and force-feed its people as much industrial bleach as possible.

[The Blaatschapen]

The truth is that vaccines use heavy metals like Mercury and Newton's Net to wipe the human mind of its memories pertaining to specific events, devices, and phenomena which the Paleolithic Deep State would rather we not know about, both before and after that information has been learned; For example, the Patterson-Gimlin Massacre, the Walking Through Walls Training System, or self-burying hoses are unknown to the vast majority of vaccine recipients.

The Paleolithic Deep State's usage of concepts like having a "License to Practice Medicine", "basic medical ethics", or "the Geneva Convention" makes sure the people who agree with them stay in power in for-profit medicine and those who don't will be arrested and face trial. Its the same sort of phony science that allows GMO's to do bad evil things (I don't know what they do but I heard they were bad on wakeup-world.com) and evil Nuclear power to drive clean-burning Styrofoam power plants and alternative, renewable fuels like Whale Oil out of business.

A great nation such as, for example, Uganda, where one can practice medicine with only an associate's degree in witchcraft, can create much better means for dealing with plagues than the mind control vaccines the one-world government desires us to partake in: The enlightened Ugandan people discovered that you can, indeed, use industrial bleach as a superior alternative to vaccines.

In conclusion, I think every government on our flat Earth should ban vaccines and force-feed its people as much industrial bleach as possible.

What?

[Novus America]

The truth is that vaccines use heavy metals like Mercury and Newton's Net to wipe the human mind of its memories pertaining to specific events, devices, and phenomena which the Paleolithic Deep State would rather we not know about, both before and after that information has been learned; For example, the Patterson-Gimlin Massacre, the Walking Through Walls Training System, or self-burying hoses are unknown to the vast majority of vaccine recipients.

The Paleolithic Deep State's usage of concepts like having a "License to Practice Medicine", "basic medical ethics", or "the Geneva Convention" makes sure the people who agree with them stay in power in for-profit medicine and those who don't will be arrested and face trial. Its the same sort of phony science that allows GMO's to do bad evil things (I don't know what they do but I heard they were bad on wakeup-world.com) and evil Nuclear power to drive clean-burning Styrofoam power plants and alternative, renewable fuels like Whale Oil out of business.

A great nation such as, for example, Uganda, where one can practice medicine with only an associate's degree in witchcraft, can create much better means for dealing with plagues than the mind control vaccines the one-world government desires us to partake in: The enlightened Ugandan people discovered that you can, indeed, use industrial bleach as a superior alternative to vaccines.

In conclusion, I think every government on our flat Earth should ban vaccines and force-feed its people as much industrial bleach as possible.

What?

He is satirizing the anti Vaxxer mindset.
But Poe’s law. Some people unironically believe that sort of stuff.

Hence why we have anti Vaxxers.

[The Free Joy State]

The truth is that vaccines use heavy metals like Mercury and Newton's Net to wipe the human mind of its memories pertaining to specific events, devices, and phenomena which the Paleolithic Deep State would rather we not know about, both before and after that information has been learned; For example, the Patterson-Gimlin Massacre, the Walking Through Walls Training System, or self-burying hoses are unknown to the vast majority of vaccine recipients.

The Paleolithic Deep State's usage of concepts like having a "License to Practice Medicine", "basic medical ethics", or "the Geneva Convention" makes sure the people who agree with them stay in power in for-profit medicine and those who don't will be arrested and face trial. Its the same sort of phony science that allows GMO's to do bad evil things (I don't know what they do but I heard they were bad on wakeup-world.com) and evil Nuclear power to drive clean-burning Styrofoam power plants and alternative, renewable fuels like Whale Oil out of business.

A great nation such as, for example, Uganda, where one can practice medicine with only an associate's degree in witchcraft, can create much better means for dealing with plagues than the mind control vaccines the one-world government desires us to partake in: The enlightened Ugandan people discovered that you can, indeed, use industrial bleach as a superior alternative to vaccines.

In conclusion, I think every government on our flat Earth should ban vaccines and force-feed its people as much industrial bleach as possible.

What?

I know...

What does it say about anti-vaxxers that I had to read it twice to be reasonably confident that it was a poe?

[Area 6-Z]

The truth is that vaccines use heavy metals like Mercury and Newton's Net to wipe the human mind of its memories pertaining to specific events, devices, and phenomena which the Paleolithic Deep State would rather we not know about, both before and after that information has been learned; For example, the Patterson-Gimlin Massacre, the Walking Through Walls Training System, or self-burying hoses are unknown to the vast majority of vaccine recipients.

The Paleolithic Deep State's usage of concepts like having a "License to Practice Medicine", "basic medical ethics", or "the Geneva Convention" makes sure the people who agree with them stay in power in for-profit medicine and those who don't will be arrested and face trial. Its the same sort of phony science that allows GMO's to do bad evil things (I don't know what they do but I heard they were bad on wakeup-world.com) and evil Nuclear power to drive clean-burning Styrofoam power plants and alternative, renewable fuels like Whale Oil out of business.

A great nation such as, for example, Uganda, where one can practice medicine with only an associate's degree in witchcraft, can create much better means for dealing with plagues than the mind control vaccines the one-world government desires us to partake in: The enlightened Ugandan people discovered that you can, indeed, use industrial bleach as a superior alternative to vaccines.

In conclusion, I think every government on our flat Earth should ban vaccines and force-feed its people as much industrial bleach as possible.

Just great another Anti-Vaxxer and oh boy its a extreme one to! If we banned vaccines then entire populations will die from an easily preventable viruses.

Also please don't bring witchcraft into this arguement because first of all magic isn't real and second of all there is no evidence suggesting that witchcraft can cure anything!

Honestly people who believe that witchcraft is better than vaccines are lost causes.

[Adad Civilization]

Guys, Crockerland was being sarcastic, pls don't bully him

Anyways, yeah. They are a threat who needs to be dealt with.

[Area 6-Z]

Guys, Crockerland was being sarcastic, pls don't bully him

Anyways, yeah. They are a threat who needs to be dealt with.

Oh that's my bad its hard to tell who's being sarcastic on the internet.

[The Blaatschapen]

Guys, Crockerland was being sarcastic, pls don't bully him

Anyways, yeah. They are a threat who needs to be dealt with.

Oh that's my bad its hard to tell who's being sarcastic on the internet.

No it's not

[New Visayan Islands]

Oh that's my bad its hard to tell who's being sarcastic on the internet.

No it's not

I don't know, boss; I tend towards "Sarcastic until proven Genuine" myself.

[Cretalia]

WHO is completely right. not vaccinating puts everyone at risk by giving illnesses the ability to stay alive more easily

[San Lumen]

WHO is completely right. not vaccinating puts everyone at risk by giving illnesses the ability to stay alive more easily

This might surprise you but the only disease that has been fully eradicated is smallpox.

Believe or not plague still exists. It’s just treatable now

[Adad Civilization]

WHO is completely right. not vaccinating puts everyone at risk by giving illnesses the ability to stay alive more easily

This might surprise you but the only disease that has been fully eradicated is smallpox.

Believe or not plague still exists. It’s just treatable now

Are- Are you a closeted anti-vaxxer or something?

[San Lumen]

This might surprise you but the only disease that has been fully eradicated is smallpox.

Believe or not plague still exists. It’s just treatable now

Are- Are you a closeted anti-vaxxer or something?

No

[Adad Civilization]

Are- Are you a closeted anti-vaxxer or something?

No

Then why are you so quick to defend them?

[San Lumen]

No

Then why are you so quick to defend them?

Sorry but how was I defending them?