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by North German Realm » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:27 am
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by Page » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:43 pm
North German Realm wrote:I'm personally sympathetic to Yesh Atid, New Right (If only they supported invading Palestine too, but you can't have everything)
by Shrillland » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:48 pm
by Trumptonium1 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:09 pm
by Crylante » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:14 pm
by Major-Tom » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:18 pm
by Shrillland » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:19 pm
Trumptonium1 wrote:Page wrote:
Half the West Bank is occupied and Gaza is an open air prison, how much more invaded can Palestine get?
Like, actual boots on the ground so they stop the rockets being fired from Palestinian territory into Israel every 3rd day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... rael,_2014
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... rael,_2018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... rael,_2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... rael,_2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... rael,_2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Gaza_border_protests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza%E2%8 ... ember_2018)
Not sure you'd like living in a country where the air raid warning siren urging you to hide in a bunker is sounded twice a week.
Oh look, random innocent 19 year old Israeli teen critically wounded 2 months ago because his bus was hit by a rocket from Gaza for no reason in particular other than LULS
https://www.apnews.com/28f25c4e03cb40f5b53e12fa1b3aed25
by North German Realm » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:22 pm
5 Nov, 2020
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by Novus America » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:25 pm
Shrillland wrote:Trumptonium1 wrote:
Like, actual boots on the ground so they stop the rockets being fired from Palestinian territory into Israel every 3rd day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... rael,_2014
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... rael,_2018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... rael,_2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... rael,_2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... rael,_2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Gaza_border_protests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza%E2%8 ... ember_2018)
Not sure you'd like living in a country where the air raid warning siren urging you to hide in a bunker is sounded twice a week.
Oh look, random innocent 19 year old Israeli teen critically wounded 2 months ago because his bus was hit by a rocket from Gaza for no reason in particular other than LULS
https://www.apnews.com/28f25c4e03cb40f5b53e12fa1b3aed25
Yes, that's a sign that Hamas needs to be gotten rid of, but none of those are from the West Bank where the Palestinian Authority actually governs. There, things have more or less calmed down, and they deserve a fair shake, which Netanyahu has refused to give them. Besides, Likud's been in power for 14 of the last 18 years, and the worsening corruption scandals are proving that Likud's time in power is showing its age. It's time for them to step aside and for Labour to take over, hopefully with Meretz as part of their coalition.
by Shrillland » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:29 pm
Novus America wrote:Shrillland wrote:
Yes, that's a sign that Hamas needs to be gotten rid of, but none of those are from the West Bank where the Palestinian Authority actually governs. There, things have more or less calmed down, and they deserve a fair shake, which Netanyahu has refused to give them. Besides, Likud's been in power for 14 of the last 18 years, and the worsening corruption scandals are proving that Likud's time in power is showing its age. It's time for them to step aside and for Labour to take over, hopefully with Meretz as part of their coalition.
Though that is unlikely, they probably will not have enough votes.
Even so actual resolution of the West Bank issue is practically impossible.
Israel is a multi party parliamentary democracy, getting an actual majority to agree on what to do with the West Bank is not going to happen. There are too many parts and groups with too many different ideas.
Actually coming up with a plan that a majority would support is basically impossible.
by Menassa » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:31 pm
by Menassa » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:38 pm
Angleter wrote:In other news, BENNY GANTZ HAS A THEME TUNE
It includes a rap.
Probably because there are so many parties all in fierce competition for attention, Israeli parties have a habit of making theme tunes for their election campaigns. I'll post them as and when I find them. Some highlights from 2015: United Torah Judaism, Shas, Yachad (for some reason the Haredi parties love recording songs), Meretz, Bayit Yehudi
by Trumptonium1 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:48 pm
Shrillland wrote:Trumptonium1 wrote:
Like, actual boots on the ground so they stop the rockets being fired from Palestinian territory into Israel every 3rd day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... rael,_2014
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... rael,_2018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... rael,_2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... rael,_2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... rael,_2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Gaza_border_protests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza%E2%8 ... ember_2018)
Not sure you'd like living in a country where the air raid warning siren urging you to hide in a bunker is sounded twice a week.
Oh look, random innocent 19 year old Israeli teen critically wounded 2 months ago because his bus was hit by a rocket from Gaza for no reason in particular other than LULS
https://www.apnews.com/28f25c4e03cb40f5b53e12fa1b3aed25
Yes, that's a sign that Hamas needs to be gotten rid of, but none of those are from the West Bank where the Palestinian Authority actually governs. There, things have more or less calmed down, and they deserve a fair shake, which Netanyahu has refused to give them.
Shrillland wrote: Besides, Likud's been in power for 14 of the last 18 years, and the worsening corruption scandals are proving that Likud's time in power is showing its age. It's time for them to step aside and for Labour to take over, hopefully with Meretz as part of their coalition.
by Angleter » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:04 pm
North German Realm wrote:I'm personally sympathetic to Yesh Atid, New Right (If only they supported invading Palestine too, but you can't have everything), or Yachad (only for his opposition to the existence of the Palestinian colonial state). Within context of "who might win?", I'd say I'd throw my lot with Yesh Atid, though I'd love for them to win with a coalition with either of the other two parties I support.
One thing is clear though, Netanyahu needs to go. He's been in power for too long, and he's too soft on the Lebanese, Palestinians, and -until recently- Iran.
by Diopolis » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:44 pm
by Menassa » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:01 pm
by Thermodolia » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:31 pm
Diopolis wrote:Darussalam wrote:Yisrael Beitenu is so fucking based
He wants to abolish women rights, criminalize homosexuality, promote high fertility rate, punish blasphemy and apostasy, establish cohesive religious communities. Hamas is his best bet.
And we're both anti-capitalists.
Seriously, though, whoever has the best chance of breaking up the Jewish state and driving them back to their ghettos.
by Diopolis » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:34 pm
by Thermodolia » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:40 pm
Menassa wrote:I'm not to worried about the winner of the elections.
https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/1206 ... elections/
by Thermodolia » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:41 pm
by Diopolis » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:43 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Diopolis wrote:They lost the right to any such land at the crucifixion. The Jewish attacks on Palestine should be treated the same as any other example of white people ethnically cleansing brown natives.
So you’re mad at the Jews because we didn’t bow before someone who claimed to be god?
by Shrillland » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:43 pm
by Thermodolia » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:46 pm
by Diopolis » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:48 pm
Shrillland wrote:Diopolis wrote:They lost the right to any such land at the crucifixion. The Jewish attacks on Palestine should be treated the same as any other example of white people ethnically cleansing brown natives.
There are plenty of valid arguments for and against the existence of Modern Israel. Carrying on 2000-year-old grudges against Jews and 1000-year-old grudges against the fall of Baudouin's kingdom isn't one of them
by Novus America » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:50 pm
Shrillland wrote:Diopolis wrote:They lost the right to any such land at the crucifixion. The Jewish attacks on Palestine should be treated the same as any other example of white people ethnically cleansing brown natives.
There are plenty of valid arguments for and against the existence of Modern Israel. Carrying on 2000-year-old grudges against Jews and 1000-year-old grudges against the fall of Baudouin's kingdom isn't one of them
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