Teens Surround And Denigrate Native Americans In DC

[Karu Nadu]

How the actual fuck did you get that from what I said?

You seem to imply if whites are somehow rule their country that it is bad. I am sure that minority man being supreme is positive to you.

Now, listen once whites are gone from USA and Western Europe thoose place will end like South Africa and Zimbabwe.

Yeah. Cuz' South Africa and Zimbabwe were real paradises before the brown people took over...(sarcasm)

[ShakaZuli]

I am using his as an evidence that part of the elite hate white people. And there you have you outed yourself as an anti-white bigot. You may destroy us demographically, but remember once whites are gone from USA so will the whole country. USA and Western Europe will lose their first world status. There are already historical precedents that proves this.

So...
When white people disappear, brown people destroy the great things they created?
...that's not racially charged...

If say one day Hispanics become a 90% of the country, USA will basically turn into Mexico or Brazil 2,0. Simple as that. All the good things in USA were created by white people. I am sorry to say it but that are the facts.

[Seangoli]

So...
When white people disappear, brown people destroy the great things they created?
...that's not racially charged...

If say one day Hispanics become a 90% of the country, USA will basically turn into Mexico or Brazil 2,0. Simple as that. All the good things in USA were created by white people. I am sorry to say it but that are the facts.

And all the great things in Europe are because of Italians, who are about as white as manu Hispanics. Scandinavians, Germans, and Anglos were backwards mudhut dwellers before my people brought their greatness to them.

[ShakaZuli]

You seem to imply if whites are somehow rule their country that it is bad. I am sure that minority man being supreme is positive to you.

Now, listen once whites are gone from USA and Western Europe thoose place will end like South Africa and Zimbabwe.

Yeah. Cuz' South Africa and Zimbabwe were real paradises before the brown people took over...(sarcasm)

Compared to what they are today they were. Remember Rhodesians never let their blacks to starve to death like their "liberated" government is doing.

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

So...
When white people disappear, brown people destroy the great things they created?
...that's not racially charged...

If say one day Hispanics become a 90% of the country, USA will basically turn into Mexico or Brazil 2,0. Simple as that. All the good things in USA were created by white people. I am sorry to say it but that are the facts.

Yeah I'm going to say that your comments are verging on the limits of rule breaking... Regardless, that's such an inherently wrong statement that it actually makes me sick to the stomach

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

Just a reminder that Hispanics are just as European as most American whites

[Camelone]

Can y’all cut the damn race shit off, this is not about racism it is, as has been stated before already, about media irresponsibility fueled by a grand narrative of oppression and equality. That why it was jumped on because journalist and reporters let their implicit biases take center stage. Media irresponsibility that’s all this nontroversy is.

[Seangoli]

Can y’all cut the damn race shit off, this is not about racism it is, as has been stated before already, about media irresponsibility fueled by a grand narrative of oppression and equality. That why it was jumped on because journalist and reporters let their implicit biases take center stage. Media irresponsibility that’s all this nontroversy is.

That's one side of the coin. The otherside is that this was was a cavalcade of three different groups being in the same spot by pire circumstance, all looking for a confrontation, and none of the adults in the room acting responsibly, including the adults who were charged with handling the kids.

The kids aren't saints. They don't deserve what they got, but they were looking for confrontation and they got it. One needs look no further than interviews with the one kid who thinks the Black israelites and Nstive guy were there to protest them, specifically. No kid, your march was not that important. Your expectation of protestors was nkt the reality of what was going on there.

Is the media skewering fair? No, no its not. But lets stop acting like these kids were saints, and lets also point the finger squarely at the idiotic chaperones who were charged with them as being a good part responsible for the what went down there.

[Des-Bal]

That's one side of the coin. The otherside is that this was was a cavalcade of three different groups being in the same spot by pire circumstance, all looking for a confrontation, and none of the adults in the room acting responsibly, including the adults who were charged with handling the kids.

The kids aren't saints. They don't deserve what they got, but they were looking for confrontation and they got it. One needs look no further than interviews with the one kid who thinks the Black israelites and Nstive guy were there to protest them, specifically. No kid, your march was not that important. Your expectation of protestors was nkt the reality of what was going on there.

Is the media skewering fair? No, no its not. But lets stop acting like these kids were saints, and lets also point the finger squarely at the idiotic chaperones who were charged with them as being a good part responsible for the what went down there.

I'm not persuaded those boys were looking for a confrontation, what exactly did the chaperones or the boys do especially wrong?

[Minzerland II]

Aspersions have been cast over Mr. Nathan Philips story, particularly that he was a Vietnam Veteran, including that he was also supposedly doing similar things in 2014-15, that he’s worked as an actor (in a music video, I am 7nsure if this is him) and that he has changed story and tact. Whilst I can say that I am hestitant to doubt his service in the military, I think it is obvious that he changed stories throughout the affair.

[Minzerland II]

That's one side of the coin. The otherside is that this was was a cavalcade of three different groups being in the same spot by pire circumstance, all looking for a confrontation, and none of the adults in the room acting responsibly, including the adults who were charged with handling the kids.

The kids aren't saints. They don't deserve what they got, but they were looking for confrontation and they got it. One needs look no further than interviews with the one kid who thinks the Black israelites and Nstive guy were there to protest them, specifically. No kid, your march was not that important. Your expectation of protestors was nkt the reality of what was going on there.

Is the media skewering fair? No, no its not. But lets stop acting like these kids were saints, and lets also point the finger squarely at the idiotic chaperones who were charged with them as being a good part responsible for the what went down there.

I'm not persuaded those boys were looking for a confrontation, what exactly did the chaperones or the boys do especially wrong?

I’d say failing to reign in their misbehaviour, but that isn’t exactly searching for a confrontation.

[Purpelia]

I am using his as an evidence that part of the elite hate white people. And there you have you outed yourself as an anti-white bigot. You may destroy us demographically, but remember once whites are gone from USA so will the whole country. USA and Western Europe will lose their first world status. There are already historical precedents that proves this.

So...
When white people disappear, brown people destroy the great things they created?
...that's not racially charged...

More like when the sort of forces that make an entire race of people disappear get into power they tend to destroy everything.

[Seangoli]

That's one side of the coin. The otherside is that this was was a cavalcade of three different groups being in the same spot by pire circumstance, all looking for a confrontation, and none of the adults in the room acting responsibly, including the adults who were charged with handling the kids.

The kids aren't saints. They don't deserve what they got, but they were looking for confrontation and they got it. One needs look no further than interviews with the one kid who thinks the Black israelites and Nstive guy were there to protest them, specifically. No kid, your march was not that important. Your expectation of protestors was nkt the reality of what was going on there.

Is the media skewering fair? No, no its not. But lets stop acting like these kids were saints, and lets also point the finger squarely at the idiotic chaperones who were charged with them as being a good part responsible for the what went down there.

I'm not persuaded those boys were looking for a confrontation, what exactly did the chaperones or the boys do especially wrong?

The chaperones main responsibility is keeping the students in line, protecting them, and ensuring they remain at a modicum of respect.

As for the Students, it is pretty damn obvious (again) that some ofnthem were using stereotypical mocking of natives dances amd chants. This is not the school chamtx mind you. Regardless of the situation, that behavior is unaccpetable and the chaperones should have reigned it in.

Further, when asked if the students could engage the Black Israelites further by chamting at them and getting riled up, the chaperones should have said "hell no" and moved the group on. This, in turn, escalated the situation into a place it didn't need to be.

The chaperone's main responsibility is to control the group of students. Not to encourage more and more ridiculous behavior out of them or just allow them to get into shouting matches with people.

[Des-Bal]

Aspersions have been cast over Mr. Nathan Philips story, particularly that he was a Vietnam Veteran, including that he was also supposedly doing similar things in 2014-15, that he’s worked as an actor (in a music video) and that he has changed story and tact. Whilst I can say that I am hestitant to doubt his service in the military, I think it is obvious that he changed stories throughout the affair.

I'm confident that his statement that he was a Vietnam Era vetran was true but the extrapolation that statement invited, that he was a veteran who served in vietnam, was not true.

I’d say failing to reign in their misbehaviour, but that isn’t exactly searching for a confrontation.

What misbehavior did they fail to adequately reign in? Nobody got hurt.

[Des-Bal]

The chaperones main responsibility is keeping the students in line, protecting them, and ensuring they remain at a modicum of respect.

As for the Students, it is pretty damn obvious (again) that some ofnthem were using stereotypical mocking of natives dances amd chants. This is not the school chamtx mind you. Regardless of the situation, that behavior is unaccpetable and the chaperones should have reigned it in.

Further, when asked if the students could engage the Black Israelites further by chamting at them and getting riled up, the chaperones should have said "hell no" and moved the group on. This, in turn, escalated the situation into a place it didn't need to be.

The chaperone's main responsibility is to control the group of students. Not to encourage more and more ridiculous behavior out of them or just allow them to get into shouting matches with people.

They were protected and they didn't get especially disrespectful.

A guy walked up chanting and drumming and they mimicked him, if he wasn't native american would they have still done this? Almost certainly, that's a crazy thing it is worthy of mockery.

The situation did not escalate. It started with people hurling insults and never went any further, what you're saying is that the kids should have been forced to leave the monument the first time someone got upset and I strenuously disagree- the chaperones correctly determined a couple guys yelling wasn't a serious problem and didn't require serious modification of anyone's behavior.

[Seangoli]

I'm not persuaded those boys were looking for a confrontation, what exactly did the chaperones or the boys do especially wrong?

I’d say failing to reign in their misbehaviour, but that isn’t exactly searching for a confrontation.

They were there for a political march, one that typically ends in a shoutong match, both the Black Israelites and Phillips were referred to protestors in the context as being against their march's purpose by the students (which is just untrue, regardless of what you think about the rest of the situation.

Nobody protests an abortion clinic without expecting confrontation, and nobody goes on a Pro-Life march without expecting it either.

[Des-Bal]

They were there for a political march, one that typically ends in a shoutong match, both the Black Israelites and Phillips were referred to protestors in the context as being against their march's purpose by the students (which is just untrue, regardless of what you think about the rest of the situation.

Nobody protests an abortion clinic without expecting confrontation, and nobody goes on a Pro-Life march without expecting it either.

So when you say "searching for a confrontation" you mean "expressing themselves politically?"

[Seangoli]

They were there for a political march, one that typically ends in a shoutong match, both the Black Israelites and Phillips were referred to protestors in the context as being against their march's purpose by the students (which is just untrue, regardless of what you think about the rest of the situation.

Nobody protests an abortion clinic without expecting confrontation, and nobody goes on a Pro-Life march without expecting it either.

So when you say "searching for a confrontation" you mean "expressing themselves politically?"

Most people, regardless of political leaning, whem going to a march are likely lookingnfor a confrontation. The entire purpose of a march is optics, and there is little better for optics than confrontation. Firther, the characterization of the Black israelites and Phillips as protestors to their march is indicative that they have pre existing notions of how their trip would play out.

[Minzerland II]

Aspersions have been cast over Mr. Nathan Philips story, particularly that he was a Vietnam Veteran, including that he was also supposedly doing similar things in 2014-15, that he’s worked as an actor (in a music video) and that he has changed story and tact. Whilst I can say that I am hestitant to doubt his service in the military, I think it is obvious that he changed stories throughout the affair.

I'm confident that his statement that he was a Vietnam Era vetran was true but the extrapolation that statement invited, that he was a veteran who served in vietnam, was not true.

I’d say failing to reign in their misbehaviour, but that isn’t exactly searching for a confrontation.

What misbehavior did they fail to adequately reign in? Nobody got hurt.

The mocking and taunting. What they should have done from the beginning was ignore them and refuse to respond to the aggressive Black Israelites and Native American protestors. Sandmann was perhaps the best behaved (though he probably was too timid, meaning he should have said something), imo, and didn’t seem to do much wrong.

Or, on the other hand, in hindsight, seeing as the smug smirk of Nicholas Sandmann was so effective in its racism, hate and bigotry, perhaps the whole of Covington Cath could smuggly smirk enough to tear down the Lincoln Memorial.

[Minzerland II]

I’d say failing to reign in their misbehaviour, but that isn’t exactly searching for a confrontation.

They were there for a political march, one that typically ends in a shoutong match, both the Black Israelites and Phillips were referred to protestors in the context as being against their march's purpose by the students (which is just untrue, regardless of what you think about the rest of the situation.

Nobody protests an abortion clinic without expecting confrontation, and nobody goes on a Pro-Life march without expecting it either.

They were not at the Lincoln Memorial expecting confrontation with a drumbanging Native American and Black Israelites; rather, they were there to board buses on their return trip to Covington, Kentucky.

[Minzerland II]

So when you say "searching for a confrontation" you mean "expressing themselves politically?"

Most people, regardless of political leaning, whem going to a march are likely lookingnfor a confrontation. The entire purpose of a march is optics, and there is little better for optics than confrontation. Firther, the characterization of the Black israelites and Phillips as protestors to their march is indicative that they have pre existing notions of how their trip would play out.

No it isn’t. It is more likely an impression extrapolated from the Black Israelites and Nathan Phillips seemingly coming to greet them as if protesting them.

[Des-Bal]

Most people, regardless of political leaning, whem going to a march are likely lookingnfor a confrontation. The entire purpose of a march is optics, and there is little better for optics than confrontation. Firther, the characterization of the Black israelites and Phillips as protestors to their march is indicative that they have pre existing notions of how their trip would play out.

That's not a disagreement. When you say they were looking for a fight you mean the fact that they chose to participate in a politcal march.

The mocking and taunting. What they should have done from the beginning was ignore them and refuse to respond to the aggressive Black Israelites and Native American protestors.

Or, on the other hand, in hindsight, seeing as the smug smirk of Nicholas Sandmann was so effective in its racism, hate and bigotry, perhaps the whole of Covington Cath could smuggly smirk enough to tear down the Lincoln Memorial.

They responded to aggressive abuse including racial slurs, homophobic slurs, and warnings to a black student that he would be killed for his organs by requesting permission to chant their school song. That is so mild it is almost inspirational. I went to a public school, we would have been on them with knives. Their response to Phillips walking right up to them drumming and singing without explaining himself while one of his associates went on a racist tirade was to begin mimicking Phillips.

These kids weren't exactly out of control.

[Tarsonis]

Yes and no. Yes there are some things we expect teenagers to do over 10 year old's in an instance like this, I'd say they're marginally the same. I teach high-school juniors, and as much as i love my students they really have no sense of cause and effect. And they're hindered in that regard as their pre-fontal cortexes are underdeveloped at that age. You get a bunch of teens together, they're liable to just about anything. Yes they should be held to some level of responsibility, but it should be more of "this is a teachable moment" rather than "GET THEM! RUIN THEIR LIVES!!"

You're right though that Chaperones also had part to play, I also led a MFL pilgrimage, and my students were also present at the Lincoln Memorial and we witnessed the Indigenous peoples march. And we kept a tight hand on our students, cancelled their sightseeing time and went straight to the March after taking photos because we recognized how the situation could turn bad.

Certainly how the media has protrayed it and how hige it blew up is wrong. Still, I feel the other side is just forgiving the behavior ofnthe students entirely.

As for the chaperones allow me to explain why I put them at a huge fault for the interaction: according tk the students, after getting confronted for the first time by the Black Israelites, the students asked their chaperones if they could do their school chant in response to the Black Israelites. Which the chaperones allowed. Meanwhile, they did nothing to move the group along from them, and seem to have been fine with the kids getting into a literal shouting match woth the Black Israelites.

Nathan Phillips was an idiot, but he was an idiot by circumstance. The Black Israelites are just raging assholes to everyone. The Chaperones encouraged and allowed the students to get riled up and rowdy.

I agree in part, because yes the second the dude ripped his shirt off I'd have stepped in. But at as Catholic School teacher, I understand the rationale for letting them respond to the Black Israelites with school cheers. Thousands of us were there for arally, they're already pumped. I don't know if this was before or after the march (as I said when my group was at the LM none of this was going on. ) I'm inclined to think before (Seeing as the march ends at the SCOTUS) which means they would already be hyped up for the march. They wanted to shout school spirit cheers in response to vitriolic slurs being hurled against them. I get it, drown out the hatred with love. But then they got ridiculous, as teenagers tend to do.

[Minzerland II]

Most people, regardless of political leaning, whem going to a march are likely lookingnfor a confrontation. The entire purpose of a march is optics, and there is little better for optics than confrontation. Firther, the characterization of the Black israelites and Phillips as protestors to their march is indicative that they have pre existing notions of how their trip would play out.

That's not a disagreement. When you say they were looking for a fight you mean the fact that they chose to participate in a politcal march.

The mocking and taunting. What they should have done from the beginning was ignore them and refuse to respond to the aggressive Black Israelites and Native American protestors.

Or, on the other hand, in hindsight, seeing as the smug smirk of Nicholas Sandmann was so effective in its racism, hate and bigotry, perhaps the whole of Covington Cath could smuggly smirk enough to tear down the Lincoln Memorial.

They responded to aggressive abuse including racial slurs, homophobic slurs, and warnings to a black student that he would be killed for his organs by requesting permission to chant their school song. That is so mild it is almost inspirational. I went to a public school, we would have been on them with knives. Their response to Phillips walking right up to them drumming and singing without explaining himself while one of his associates went on a racist tirade was to begin mimicking Phillips.

These kids weren't exactly out of control.

I should clarify, for the sake of making myself clear, that I have very little problem with the school chants to drown out verbal slurs and insults, but the mockery of Nathan Phillips was nonetheless immature regardless of how deserving Nathan Phillips was of ridicule. They’re of course teenagers, in a group also, and thus this is expected, but that does not excuse that behaviour and they need to learn that they ought to be better in manner.

[Greater Carloso]

Hi everyone. I do not use NSG but I can't help but notice that the OP has not bothered to change the title of the thread despite the fact that we now know that the original video was taken completely out of context similar to the incident involving JK Rowling sharing an edited video which made it appear Trump ignored a disabled lad.

If OP wishes to be in anyway truthful, I would advise he change it.

As for my view on this. Quiet frankly, I am very unsurprised by actions taken by the pseudo-liberals of the Twittermob and the media at-large. These same people do not care for facts, keeping the never ending spin machine running so they continue sensationalise, isolate and deplatform anybody who opposes their utterly warped and, quiet honestly, Hitlerian world view. They have attempted, as they have done in the past, to build a strawman to point their guns towards, namely that of a young, white and Christian (apparently mainly Catholic) males, which they will continue to use as a scapegoat.

Typically, very few of these self-styled 'liberals' have actually apologised to the Covington lads about this incident. Rather, they are presenting the quiet sad but very common excuse of "of, we did not know the full story!", or "oh, we must now and sit down and have a conversation! let us all learn a lesson from this!". However, that was not the most surprising part for me. The worst thing in all of this was that the Catholic Diocese that the lads' school was in immediately condemned this so-called 'incident' without even bothering to investigate for themselves or seeking full clarity. The same goes with several Jesuit commentators I have seen, who were quick to rally to the side of the liers in this case, and now have similarly backtracked on their remarks. Yet more evidence that the enemies of the Church are indeed within, not outside.

As I am Irish myself, I will quote an Irish commentator, "We’re now into the 'we were triggered by the teenage boy’s face' phase of excuses."

If there is anything that we have 'learned' from this, it is that the corporate, liberal media elite, the modern Goebbelsian 'big liers' of our times, need to be removed from their positions to stop the dissemination of this vile propaganda they are poisoning the masses with and put where they belong; the worst possible job you can get at a McDonalds and/or the nearest Walmart.

EDIT: I should also add that apparently the claim that Nathan Philips was a United States Marine Corps veteran has now been called into question apparently, though I'm aware someone probably mentioned this earlier and I am unsure if any new information on this point has been made

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... -question/