2019 European Parliament Elections

[New New New Land]

This might change Europe's course for better or for worse.

it might stay the same as well!

[Shrillland]

You did not include pan-European parties such as Volt Europa and Diem25. I am member of Volt Europa.

Were he to include all parties the thread would be several pages long in the OP itself.

The only parties which currently have members in the Europarliament and the only parties which appear in polls at any level - continental or domestic - are the ones covered in the OP already.

Yeah, I was mostly covering the major parties in the most well-known countries to give people an idea of where they stand and who posters would likely align themselves with.

[Chan Island]

If I do the paperwork now I'll probably be eligible to vote for Luxembourg's 6 MEPs. Assuming Brexit doesn't go fast enough, which would as a bonus allow me to be in a booth, with a ballot that has Nigel Farage's name on it... just so I can vote against the prick.

It will be interesting to see what happens though. If the right make big gains, I wonder if they will be so eager to abolish the EU if they are the ones controlling those levers of power?

[Risottia]

Whatever the grousing look like, one thing that is certain is that turnout will consist, as it usually does, of exactly eight people

Still higher than US elections, tho.

Anyway I just hope that "eurosceptic" and "sovereignist" parties end up where they belong, that is into the dustbin of history.

[Greater Arab State]

I'm in favour of Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy having the majority of MEP's in the European Parliament in order to encourage the dissolving of the European Union as a political entity and to revert back to its original intention as a trading block rather than a political union in which nations with completely different economies are forced into one currency as well as having laws that in many cases undermine national sovereignty.

[Neu Heidelberg]

tag - to return to this topic later

[Phoenicaea]

^ @Greater Arab State; at these days, it seems the worst will happen. as a fact, what you wish will be in part done, also if throught a mess. basically, it is 'status quo for our time'

nevertheless, it won t happen as a ordered and well-decleared thing, rather as a matter of fact. formally, eu has been upkeeped, still mantained as a swamp.

and about the currency, well i don t know, nevertheless it seems the single currency will last. it reminds me the holy roman empire, a disfunctional state.

what is of mostly importance, who bears profit from it has advantage in sinking the eu without saying it, and letting it ruin instead.

because if your faction was honest in saying it, it would unecessarily light the fire.

then, the profiteers who are, in my view, gaining the caprice in sinking the eu are satisfied with the currency without policies, because they think this way its manipulated.

[Trumptonium1]

I favour a "managed" dismantlement of the European Union, and hence European Conservatives and Reformists.

Although I realise that group without UK Conservatives has now been reduced to merely a vehicle for Poland's PiS.

[Aellex]

I'd probably vote for either the ECR or ENF if I could be arsed to give a shit about this election but I most likely won't bother casting my vote at all.

[Battlion]

If the UK was voting, I mean we could well be, I’d vote LibDem in this election only and thus ALDE.

[Phoenicaea]

so, the refusal of voting takes large parts of all views, it would seem from the thread. this is good supposely, because it would give it efficacity.

in eroding ruling (not-ruling, as they "don t rule" instead of doing things) parties

[Shrillland]

With only two months to go before the EU votes on their Parliament, the EPP parties are leading with 183 seats expected: https://europeanelectionsstats.eu/european-elections-2019-seat-projection/

Most major groups are dropping whilst far-right parties are expected to gain by margins of 3-6% in vote totals.

[Bienenhalde]

With only two months to go before the EU votes on their Parliament, the EPP parties are leading with 183 seats expected: https://europeanelectionsstats.eu/european-elections-2019-seat-projection/

Most major groups are dropping whilst far-right parties are expected to gain by margins of 3-6% in vote totals.

This is concerning news. With more neo-fascists in the parliament, it will at best be harder for mainstream parties to govern effectively.

[Dresderstan]

I want to know if the Article 13 vote will hurt parties and MEPs who voted for it, I mean I assume it will since the EPP is expected to drop in terms of votes and MEPs anyway.

[Shrillland]

I want to know if the Article 13 vote will hurt parties and MEPs who voted for it, I mean I assume it will since the EPP is expected to drop in terms of votes and MEPs anyway.

The truth is that it probably won't matter. Remember, turnout for European Parliament elections tends to be miniscule except in Belgium, and that's only because voting there is compulsory.

[Phoenicaea]

^ the turnout may be slow also because of width of the vote, where an overthrow in a country may be compensated by the opposite slip in another.

it also means that formal coalition doesn t count, if an overthrow in european politics takes place, i m sure you wouldn t read it as slip in formal coalitions.

even the vague saying, that 'nationalists' (they often are not even nationslists, however lets pass it) relative surge of votes would do this or that, this saying is not motivated.

instead, i could say 'nationalists' would get 'liberals' to be included in the ecumenical 'large majority', so it is actually an opportunity for the opposite.

true disgregating sentiment is not nationalists, indeed you would indicate a thing that doesn t count or they count as few nowadays.

it has been governing parties, people party and socialist party mostly, it was them that 'disgregated' the politics, indeed they are cartels of parties, 'administrative' parties mostly.

an 'administrative' party is a a party that helds administration in a country with lenght in history, and the structure of administration is national.

about the reason, it is quite more simple than often it has been said: the true veto in eu is held by 'european council' which is the council of heads of state, as to say 'ancien regime'

[The Blaatschapen]

so, the refusal of voting takes large parts of all views, it would seem from the thread. this is good supposely, because it would give it efficacity.

in eroding ruling (not-ruling, as they "don t rule" instead of doing things) parties

Only if those here that refuse to vote are actually EUropeans.

[Painisia]

Nah, I refuse to give any votes to the European elections, mainly because my country is not an EU member and because of their approval of Article 13.

[Risottia]

Nah, I refuse to give any votes to the European elections, mainly because my country is not an EU member and because of their approval of Article 13.

You cannot "refuse" to vote in the European elections EXACTLY because you're no EU citizen, hence you have no voting rights here.

[Greater Westralia]

I'd probably vote for Conservatives and Reformists, although the presence of wet fish parties like the UK Conservatives doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

[Shrillland]

I'd probably vote for Conservatives and Reformists, although the presence of wet fish parties like the UK Conservatives doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

Well they're out of it, I just added them because it was their alignment and in case things went too badly too quickly.

[Free Land of The Free Land of Freedo]

ENF for me

[The Feylands]

I was happy to see the Sweden Democrats join a respectable group like the ECR and since I think Peter "Nalle" ("Teddy") Lundgren, who I've met personally btw, is a great guy - he gets my vote.

That being said... I used to be a "soft eurosceptic" and I understand why it's the right choice for the SD. But I'm more and more leaning towards being a "hard" Eurosceptic, on a personal level. The EU hates free trade and liberal democracy, and is built upon some old X-tian notion of "European" culture that simply doesn't exist. Of course we should be friends with Europe etc. But the cultural differences are simply too large to fit into a single political entity. This is reflected among conservatives/nationalists as well.. the South is a way more authoritarian bunch who openly argue against liberal democracy, while in the North, I sense a lot of people actually vote for such parties to preserve the basic tenets of liberal democracy.

And even Marine Le Pen is now pro-EU, I hear. I don't wanna be in a Union led by her buddies either... The cultural differences are simply too big.. as are the strategic interests. People play the Russia card, but France has always been friends with Russia and has hardly any strategical reason to not be that, other than perhaps the illusion that France shall rule supreme over Europe. A Nordic Union (+ Intermarium) is probably a securer counter to the threat of Russia eating up it's smaller neighbours. From both a cultural and a geopolitical perspective, it'd arguably make more sense to have Sweden become the 53'th US state since we share the same protestant-germanic influences... no matter the prejudices we might have about each other...

(or maybe we should just invite the Chinese to build a base on the Isle of Gotland..? that way we could surely have peace for a thousand years, here in the North... )

[Bienenhalde]

European Conservatives and Reformists's candidate for the European Commission presidency, Jan Zahradil is a climate change denier, and that would make me far more reluctant to support ECR-affiliated parties.

[The Feylands]

I don't support that, but there shouldn't be a "presidency" anyway. I trust an ECR candidate to be far less likely to enforce his private opinions upon the member states.