2019-2020 US Elections Megathread I- It Begins

[San Lumen]

I live in Tennessee, there's no reason for me to vote because not matter who I vote for, the GOP will win. FPTP sucks. Might vote in the primary for Tulsi Gabbard.

Well there is still your state legislative and congressional elections and any local elections you might have.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I live in Tennessee, there's no reason for me to vote because not matter who I vote for, the GOP will win. FPTP sucks. Might vote in the primary for Tulsi Gabbard.

Well there is still your state legislative and congressional elections and any local elections you might have.

Lol, my Congressional district and town won't elect anyone whose not nominated by the GOP.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

I’ll take a whiny, but peaceful right over a violent one, thank you very much.

It simply shows their true colors.

Let’s completely ignore the fact that they are far better armed than the left could ever fucking dream to be at the moment.

The right rising up would not be a pretty sight.

[San Lumen]

Well there is still your state legislative and congressional elections and any local elections you might have.

Lol, my Congressional district and town won't elect anyone whose not nominated by the GOP.

Every vote matters. They said that about several state senate and congressional districts in my state last year and guess what the incumbent lost or the seat flipped parties

[Economic Naturalists]

I’ll take a whiny, but peaceful right over a violent one, thank you very much.

It simply shows their true colors.

If you believe your enemies are malevolent/evil, then you can justify anything and everything against them. Do you realize how toxic that is?

[United Muscovite Nations]

Lol, my Congressional district and town won't elect anyone whose not nominated by the GOP.

Every vote matters. They said that about several state senate and congressional districts in my state last year and guess what the incumbent lost or the seat flipped parties

In the last election, my county voted nearly 85% for the GOP. No, not every vote matters, that's a delusion of grandeur on the part of voters.

[Telconi]

It simply shows their true colors.

If you believe your enemies are malevolent/evil, then you can justify anything and everything against them. Do you realize how toxic that is?

Only if you're wrong.

[San Lumen]

Every vote matters. They said that about several state senate and congressional districts in my state last year and guess what the incumbent lost or the seat flipped parties

In the last election, my county voted nearly 85% for the GOP. No, not every vote matters, that's a delusion of grandeur on the part of voters.

and they said that Staten Island was safety GOP yet they voted out their congressman last year.

[United Muscovite Nations]

In the last election, my county voted nearly 85% for the GOP. No, not every vote matters, that's a delusion of grandeur on the part of voters.

and they said that Staten Island was safety GOP yet they voted out their congressman last year.

It was never "safely" GOP, it leaned GOP. The last GOP election there only got 58%, a far cry from 85%.

[Shrillland]

and they said that Staten Island was safety GOP yet they voted out their congressman last year.

It was never "safely" GOP, it leaned GOP. The last GOP election there only got 58%, a far cry from 85%.

Are you down Knoxville way, perhaps? The safest GOP seat in America?

[United Muscovite Nations]

It was never "safely" GOP, it leaned GOP. The last GOP election there only got 58%, a far cry from 85%.

Are you down Knoxville way, perhaps? The safest GOP seat in America?

I'd rather not say exactly where I am, but I'm in West Tennessee.

[Shrillland]

Are you down Knoxville way, perhaps? The safest GOP seat in America?

I'd rather not say exactly where I am, but I'm in West Tennessee.

That's OK. I wasn't trying to pry in that sense.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

How?

Because both are massive dumpster fires that can't appeal to anyone outside of the coasts.

They would both be better then Trump and could win consitering the amont of oppstion to trump.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Honestly I would almost rather Trump win because I worry what could happen in the event that Trump loses the election in a close election. He has enough die hard supporters that he could dispute the legitimacy of the election, possibly from the pulpit of the Presidency.

[Pasong Tirad]

Honestly I would almost rather Trump win because I worry what could happen in the event that Trump loses the election in a close election. He has enough die hard supporters that he could dispute the legitimacy of the election, possibly from the pulpit of the Presidency.

Seeing how he hinted during 2016 that he would only recognize the results of the election if he won, I don't blame anyone who thinks like this.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Honestly I would almost rather Trump win because I worry what could happen in the event that Trump loses the election in a close election. He has enough die hard supporters that he could dispute the legitimacy of the election, possibly from the pulpit of the Presidency.

Seeing how he hinted during 2016 that he would only recognize the results of the election if he won, I don't blame anyone who thinks like this.

Yeah, my philosophy is to let him live out his two terms without doing too much lasting damage, rather than giving him the chance to do lasting damage to the electoral system.

[Major-Tom]

Honestly I would almost rather Trump win because I worry what could happen in the event that Trump loses the election in a close election. He has enough die hard supporters that he could dispute the legitimacy of the election, possibly from the pulpit of the Presidency.

That mindset sets a dangerous precedent. Are you so scared of Trump and his supporters that you'd rather them win, just to avoid the pissing fest if Trump loses?

C'mon, that's ludicrous. Trump and portions of his base could, and honestly, probably will dispute the results in 2020. But the election will be largely fair (I'll save talk of Voter ID laws for later), and any minuscule irregularities that occur with any election will not have an impact on the presidential race. If Trump and his team of bumbling, halfwit lawyers decide to take the case to court, disputing that Trump lost, they'll be promptly laughed at and shooed away, so to speak.

Trump may be a buffoon, but he's not going to declare himself some tinpot dictator if he loses.

[Hediacrana]

Trump may be a buffoon, but he's not going to declare himself some tinpot dictator if he loses.

Can we really predict how his grasp of reality is going to evolve over the next two years, though?

Let me clarify that statement: the guy surrounds himself with people who applaud his every move, and gets rid of anyone who he sees as disloyal or critical. His mental instability has been a topic of worry among his staffers for a long time (remember the Lodestar guy?). I'm not sure whether his eccentricity, to give it a nice name, is stable or whether it is in a process of spiraling out of control.

Of course, in the latter case, UMN's whole 'let him serve his two terms' idea would be even more manifestly dangerous than the alternative as well.

[Major-Tom]

Trump may be a buffoon, but he's not going to declare himself some tinpot dictator if he loses.

Can we really predict how his grasp of reality is going to evolve over the next two years, though?

I just don't foresee Sarah Huckabee Sanders moseying on over to her self-important podium and declaring the election results "completely null." I don't foresee a Congress willing to tear about this nation over allowing some egotistical nitwit to stay in office because leaving makes him feel "vulnerable."

I mean, the Trump administration has thus far managed to exceed my expectations in regards to lunacy and incompetence, but there has to be a ceiling for all of that somewhere. Right...?

And, to be honest, I suspect Trump loves the adulation from his base and allied commentators more than the job itself. I'm sure he'd have a blast retiring in his mid-70s and spending his remaining years whining on social media and receiving positive coverage from hacks like Hannity, Kirk and others.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Honestly I would almost rather Trump win because I worry what could happen in the event that Trump loses the election in a close election. He has enough die hard supporters that he could dispute the legitimacy of the election, possibly from the pulpit of the Presidency.

That mindset sets a dangerous precedent. Are you so scared of Trump and his supporters that you'd rather them win, just to avoid the pissing fest if Trump loses?

C'mon, that's ludicrous. Trump and portions of his base could, and honestly, probably will dispute the results in 2020. But the election will be largely fair (I'll save talk of Voter ID laws for later), and any minuscule irregularities that occur with any election will not have an impact on the presidential race. If Trump and his team of bumbling, halfwit lawyers decide to take the case to court, disputing that Trump lost, they'll be promptly laughed at and shooed away, so to speak.

Trump may be a buffoon, but he's not going to declare himself some tinpot dictator if he loses.

Who said anything about leaving it in a courtroom?

[Major-Tom]

That mindset sets a dangerous precedent. Are you so scared of Trump and his supporters that you'd rather them win, just to avoid the pissing fest if Trump loses?

C'mon, that's ludicrous. Trump and portions of his base could, and honestly, probably will dispute the results in 2020. But the election will be largely fair (I'll save talk of Voter ID laws for later), and any minuscule irregularities that occur with any election will not have an impact on the presidential race. If Trump and his team of bumbling, halfwit lawyers decide to take the case to court, disputing that Trump lost, they'll be promptly laughed at and shooed away, so to speak.

Trump may be a buffoon, but he's not going to declare himself some tinpot dictator if he loses.

Who said anything about leaving it in a courtroom?

Congress then? Realistically, what do you think would happen if November of 2020 rolls around and Trump just decides "hey, fuck it, I won't accept the results." We have an intricate system of checks & balances, along with other mechanisms to prevent that very thing from happening, in the off chance it would ever happen.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Who said anything about leaving it in a courtroom?

Congress then? Realistically, what do you think would happen if November of 2020 rolls around and Trump just decides "hey, fuck it, I won't accept the results." We have an intricate system of checks & balances, along with other mechanisms to prevent that very thing from happening, in the off chance it would ever happen.

Trump basically has a cult of personality in his supporters and could absolutely set off a constitutional crisis which the GOP would have to back him in. It could be very dangerous physically.

[Hediacrana]

I mean, the Trump administration has thus far managed to exceed my expectations in regards to lunacy and incompetence, but there has to be a ceiling for all of that somewhere. Right...?

Yes, I edited the post you were responding to as you were typing this to clarify my statements (see above), but the short of it is, I think that ceiling may be getting progressively higher as his time in office gets longer.

[Confederate States of German America]

The alternating logic of how, in one post, users here can rant about the stupidity of the Trump Administration but, in the very next post, quake in fear of the possibility of him becoming dictator. The two thoughts are so mutually contradictory that I think the mere thought process behind such is worth of examination by psychologists.

[Hediacrana]

The alternating logic of how, in one post, users here can rant about the stupidity of the Trump Administration but, in the very next post, quake in fear of the possibility of him becoming dictator. The two thoughts are so mutually contradictory that I think the mere thought process behind such is worth of examination by psychologists.

I did not call him stupid, I talked about him becoming progressively more loony - and there have been plenty of loony dictators in history.