MAGAThread XV: Because Another

[Ifreann]

I wonder how the Q Anon crawd are going to spin this. They've been telling themselves that Mueller is secretly investigating Democrats.

I remember there being something about that like 6 months ago, but quickly turned out to be nothing.

You should look them up, they're a laugh.

[Bear Stearns]

You're ignoring votes in Northern states that went to Breckinridge that would have gone to Douglas.

Yes, I was, but having checked Pennsylvania, New York, Massachusetts, and Ohio on Wiki's map for the 1860 election, I don't see Breckenridge's numbers adding to victory for Douglas in those states. Those four states add up to 98 EC votes. Check it out yourself.

Edit: I took out New York because Douglas and Breckenridge ran together on a fusion ticket. That takes the 98 EC votes down to 63. Not enough.

Ah - I can admit when I'm wrong.

I do believe though that a lot of pre-computerized election results, especially those from the 19th Century, are not incredibly accurate, especially given that politicians in the 1850s and 1860s openly bragged about rigging elections.

[Vassenor]

And Trump is right back to trying to punish Puerto Rico for being insufficiently grateful for the aid they've received.

[Gormwood]

And Trump is right back to trying to punish Puerto Rico for being insufficiently grateful for the aid they've received.

He really has an obsession with being thanked and praised for every little thing.

[The Black Forrest]

And Trump is right back to trying to punish Puerto Rico for being insufficiently grateful for the aid they've received.

He really has an obsession with being thanked and praised for every little thing.

I think our British friends have the right word. He is a cunt.

[Gormwood]

He really has an obsession with being thanked and praised for every little thing.

I think our British friends have the right word. He is a cunt.

This should be the part where a few Redcaps dismiss the relevance of Great Britain and gloat about the damage Brexit will inflict.

[Cannot think of a name]

Also looks like Trump considers having involvement in the Mueller probe to be treason.

Can't even take a win.

[Gormwood]

Also looks like Trump considers having involvement in the Mueller probe to be treason.

Can't even take a win.

Not a surprise he couldn't grasp that the Mueller Probe started because he fired James Comey to shut down the FBI investigation- which he admitted to on live TV. The pettiness is going to be rather destructive, although I am a bit surprised he hasn't ordered the Justice Department to prosecute Hillary Clinton on... well, whatever someone comes up with.

[Myrensis]

Can't even take a win.

Not a surprise he couldn't grasp that the Mueller Probe started because he fired James Comey to shut down the FBI investigation- which he admitted to on live TV. The pettiness is going to be rather destructive, although I am a bit surprised he hasn't ordered the Justice Department to prosecute Hillary Clinton on... well, whatever someone comes up with.

I'm more amused that they've been making the rounds lately with the "Oh, our campaign was too incompetent and disorganized to collude!", but neglecting to mention that his Administration was too incompetent and disorganized to avoid constantly incriminating themselves in something they didn't actually do.

"Nobody in my campaign ever met with any Russians."
.
"Okay, we did meet with the Russians but it wasn't about the election."
.
"Okay, we met with the Russians and it was about the election, but wasn't about them helping us."
.
"Okay, they specifically asked to meet with us to offer information on Hillary because they wanted to help us, but we didn't take it."

Trump fires Comey and goes on TV and says it was because he was annoyed that he refused to shut down the Russia investigation.

Trumps lawyer Noun Verb 9/11 Giuliani goes on TV and says maybe there was some collusion, but Trump wasn't involved or aware of it, so it's fine!

Republicans: How could any of that possibly make anyone think there was any sort of collusion with the Russians?!? Witch Hunt!! Deep State!!

[Northern Davincia]

Not a surprise he couldn't grasp that the Mueller Probe started because he fired James Comey to shut down the FBI investigation- which he admitted to on live TV. The pettiness is going to be rather destructive, although I am a bit surprised he hasn't ordered the Justice Department to prosecute Hillary Clinton on... well, whatever someone comes up with.

I'm more amused that they've been making the rounds lately with the "Oh, our campaign was too incompetent and disorganized to collude!", but neglecting to mention that his Administration was too incompetent and disorganized to avoid constantly incriminating themselves in something they didn't actually do.

"Nobody in my campaign ever met with any Russians."
.
"Okay, we did meet with the Russians but it wasn't about the election."
.
"Okay, we met with the Russians and it was about the election, but wasn't about them helping us."
.
"Okay, they specifically asked to meet with us to offer information on Hillary because they wanted to help us, but we didn't take it."

Trump fires Comey and goes on TV and says it was because he was annoyed that he refused to shut down the Russia investigation.

Trumps lawyer Noun Verb 9/11 Giuliani goes on TV and says maybe there was some collusion, but Trump wasn't involved or aware of it, so it's fine!

Republicans: How could any of that possibly make anyone think there was any sort of collusion with the Russians?!? Witch Hunt!! Deep State!!

The moral of the story is that jumping to conclusions is a bad idea.

[Mystic Warriors]

What are your thoughts on this obstruction charge? As far as I can tell no efforts were made to sabotage the investigation; the worst Trump did was call it a witch hunt or suggest it was some conspiracy against him.

And fire an FBI director before announcing on live TV he did it to end the investigation.

He kept doing that, this report is a farce. He did collude with Russia and abused his power to hide it

[Valrifell]

I'm more amused that they've been making the rounds lately with the "Oh, our campaign was too incompetent and disorganized to collude!", but neglecting to mention that his Administration was too incompetent and disorganized to avoid constantly incriminating themselves in something they didn't actually do.

"Nobody in my campaign ever met with any Russians."
.
"Okay, we did meet with the Russians but it wasn't about the election."
.
"Okay, we met with the Russians and it was about the election, but wasn't about them helping us."
.
"Okay, they specifically asked to meet with us to offer information on Hillary because they wanted to help us, but we didn't take it."

Trump fires Comey and goes on TV and says it was because he was annoyed that he refused to shut down the Russia investigation.

Trumps lawyer Noun Verb 9/11 Giuliani goes on TV and says maybe there was some collusion, but Trump wasn't involved or aware of it, so it's fine!

Republicans: How could any of that possibly make anyone think there was any sort of collusion with the Russians?!? Witch Hunt!! Deep State!!

The moral of the story is that jumping to conclusions is a bad idea.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, just because it happens to be a weird log doesn't mean we weren't justified in thinking it was a duck.

[Myrensis]

I'm more amused that they've been making the rounds lately with the "Oh, our campaign was too incompetent and disorganized to collude!", but neglecting to mention that his Administration was too incompetent and disorganized to avoid constantly incriminating themselves in something they didn't actually do.

"Nobody in my campaign ever met with any Russians."
.
"Okay, we did meet with the Russians but it wasn't about the election."
.
"Okay, we met with the Russians and it was about the election, but wasn't about them helping us."
.
"Okay, they specifically asked to meet with us to offer information on Hillary because they wanted to help us, but we didn't take it."

Trump fires Comey and goes on TV and says it was because he was annoyed that he refused to shut down the Russia investigation.

Trumps lawyer Noun Verb 9/11 Giuliani goes on TV and says maybe there was some collusion, but Trump wasn't involved or aware of it, so it's fine!

Republicans: How could any of that possibly make anyone think there was any sort of collusion with the Russians?!? Witch Hunt!! Deep State!!

The moral of the story is that jumping to conclusions is a bad idea.

So, the moral of the story is that law enforcement should just take the word of people they suspect of wrong doing? Not fair to conduct an investigation if they pinky swear they're totally innocent.

[Northern Davincia]

And fire an FBI director before announcing on live TV he did it to end the investigation.

He kept doing that, this report is a farce. He did collude with Russia and abused his power to hide it

[citation needed]

The moral of the story is that jumping to conclusions is a bad idea.

So, the moral of the story is that law enforcement should just take the word of people they suspect of wrong doing? Not fair to conduct an investigation if they pinky swear they're totally innocent.

I have no idea how you extrapolated that. If there is an additional moral, it's that waiting for an investigation to be over is the best option.

[Proctopeo]

He kept doing that, this report is a farce. He did collude with Russia and abused his power to hide it

[citation needed]

I'm willing to bet that, if there's even any citation for Mystic's claim, it's a blog or some rando's twitter thread. Best case scenario it's a tabloid, like Vox.

So, the moral of the story is that law enforcement should just take the word of people they suspect of wrong doing? Not fair to conduct an investigation if they pinky swear they're totally innocent.

I have no idea how you extrapolated that. If there is an additional moral, it's that waiting for an investigation to be over is the best option.

yeah but how else do you farm clicks from gullible suburban moms other than acting clairvoyant?

[Tarsonis]

He kept doing that, this report is a farce. He did collude with Russia and abused his power to hide it

[citation needed]

Sounds like Occupy Democrats

[Valrifell]

[citation needed]

Sounds like Occupy Democrats

Did the report specify between the Trump campaign and Trump the man?

I don't think Trump was directly involved but at this point I find it hard to believe that nobody in his campaign sought that kinda help.

[Tarsonis]

Sounds like Occupy Democrats

Did the report specify between the Trump campaign and Trump the man?

I don't think Trump was directly involved but at this point I find it hard to believe that nobody in his campaign sought that kinda help.

Point was mystic is a perfect representation of the far left right now. They’re convinced trump is guilty, therefore he must have interferes with the investigation, if he hasn’t it would have showed all the evidence.

[Valrifell]

Did the report specify between the Trump campaign and Trump the man?

I don't think Trump was directly involved but at this point I find it hard to believe that nobody in his campaign sought that kinda help.

Point was mystic is a perfect representation of the far left right now. They’re convinced trump is guilty, therefore he must have interferes with the investigation, if he hasn’t it would have showed all the evidence.

I don't know why some people need the investigation to prove that Trump is an awful man and a garbage president.

We knew that already.

[Loben]

And fire an FBI director before announcing on live TV he did it to end the investigation.

He kept doing that, this report is a farce. He did collude with Russia and abused his power to hide it

blog it.

[Tarsonis]

Point was mystic is a perfect representation of the far left right now. They’re convinced trump is guilty, therefore he must have interferes with the investigation, if he hasn’t it would have showed all the evidence.

I don't know why some people need the investigation to prove that Trump is an awful man and a garbage president.

We knew that already.

Cause that’s not enough. He needs to be guilty of crimes accused

[Valrifell]

I don't know why some people need the investigation to prove that Trump is an awful man and a garbage president.

We knew that already.

Cause that’s not enough. He needs to be guilty of crimes accused

Shady as fuck and guilty of heaps of other things. Surrounding himself with people who were indicted and charged over the course of the investigation is never a good look as well. Sad that we can't just take our victories and leave our shortcomings.

[Tarsonis]

Cause that’s not enough. He needs to be guilty of crimes accused

Shady as fuck and guilty of heaps of other things. Surrounding himself with people who were indicted and charged over the course of the investigation is never a good look as well. Sad that we can't just take our victories and leave our shortcomings.

Sure but that’s all rhetoric until something sticks

[Valrifell]

Shady as fuck and guilty of heaps of other things. Surrounding himself with people who were indicted and charged over the course of the investigation is never a good look as well. Sad that we can't just take our victories and leave our shortcomings.

Sure but that’s all rhetoric until something sticks

Just need to draw enough Indies away from him as to make his re-election unlikely. Trump himself is helping in this cause by only pandering to the Republican base and not really doing any outreach or attempting to use conciliatory language.

[Tarsonis]

Sure but that’s all rhetoric until something sticks

Just need to draw enough Indies away from him as to make his re-election unlikely. Trump himself is helping in this cause by only pandering to the Republican base and not really doing any outreach or attempting to use conciliatory language.

Trump isn’t going to pick any body up but the Democrats are wasting no time driving indies right to him