MAGAThread XV: Because Another

[Vassenor]

By, uh, not killing people?

Contraception is murder now, is it?

#everyspermissacred

[Telconi]

What about her?

Well for one thing she’s actually alive

Which is a valuable distinction.

What about her?

Does her quality of life not matter then?

Of course it does.

[Vassenor]

Well for one thing she’s actually alive

Which is a valuable distinction.

Does her quality of life not matter then?

Of course it does.

But she's not allowed control of her own body. But banning abortion is totally not about enforcing control over her honest.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Well for one thing she’s actually alive

Which is a valuable distinction.

Does her quality of life not matter then?

Of course it does.

And frankly I feel like living people are more important than bunches of cells that will eventually become human

[Telconi]

Which is a valuable distinction.



Of course it does.

But she's not allowed control of her own body. But banning abortion is totally not about enforcing control over her honest.

Is forcing control and improving lives mutually exclusive?

[Telconi]

Which is a valuable distinction.



Of course it does.

And frankly I feel like living people are more important than bunches of cells that will eventually become human

And you're entitled to feel that way and I have the awareness to accept that you believe that society would be better your way.

[Vassenor]

Meanwhile, since Trump wanted personal credit for there being no fatal plane crashes in 2017 he can take full responsibility for that plane that crashed in Texas today.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Meanwhile, since Trump wanted personal credit for there being no fatal plane crashes in 2017 he can take full responsibility for that plane that crashed in Texas today.

All these flavours, and you chose to be salty.

[Confederate States of German America]

Doesn’t Planned Parenthood focus on more than just abortions, though?

Could’ve sworn they handle sexual health as a whole.

Indeed they do. They provide a lot of help and education on reproductive health to people of all genders. We're talking birth control, cancer screenings, STIs, prenatal care...

A lot of poor people are gonna be turbofucked without them, and the "Christian" alternatives are notorious for being immensely inadequate and dishonest.

All of which can be done by other medical institutions.

[Liriena]

Contraception is murder now, is it?

Are you really that biologically illiterate?

"Murder" is a legal term, not a biological one, so I don't see how your question is relevant.

[Telconi]

Meanwhile, since Trump wanted personal credit for there being no fatal plane crashes in 2017 he can take full responsibility for that plane that crashed in Texas today.

All these flavours, and you chose to be salty.

It's a pretty solid method of covering a retreat. Soldiers use smoke bombs for similar purposes.

[Confederate States of German America]

Are you really that biologically illiterate?

"Murder" is a legal term, not a biological one, so I don't see how your question is relevant.

Was referring to something else, was missing context in that regard. With regards to this, however, is not a tangent you want to go on.

[Shrillland]

Indeed they do. They provide a lot of help and education on reproductive health to people of all genders. We're talking birth control, cancer screenings, STIs, prenatal care...

A lot of poor people are gonna be turbofucked without them, and the "Christian" alternatives are notorious for being immensely inadequate and dishonest.

All of which can be done by other medical institutions.

Many of which charge far our the arse and are often less than supportive to women than groups like Planned Parenthood.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Indeed they do. They provide a lot of help and education on reproductive health to people of all genders. We're talking birth control, cancer screenings, STIs, prenatal care...

A lot of poor people are gonna be turbofucked without them, and the "Christian" alternatives are notorious for being immensely inadequate and dishonest.

All of which can be done by other medical institutions.

Yeah but not even letting them recommend other facilities?

[Telconi]

Are you really that biologically illiterate?

"Murder" is a legal term, not a biological one, so I don't see how your question is relevant.

It's also commonly used outside such to represent ideological disagreement.

[Confederate States of German America]

All of which can be done by other medical institutions.

Many of which pay far our the arse and are often less than supportive to women than groups like Planned Parenthood.

And?

[Shrillland]

Many of which pay far our the arse and are often less than supportive to women than groups like Planned Parenthood.

And?

And, that often means that women won't get any of those screenings or treatments because they can't afford it. Planned Parenthood offers these things at a somewhat lower cost, and to force them out of Title X, as Trump has effectively done, means that they would either have to raise costs or cut services without a metric tonne of donations.

[Confederate States of German America]

And?

And, that often means that women won't get any of those screenings or treatments because they can't afford it. Planned Parenthood offers these things at a somewhat lower cost, and to force them out of Title X, as Trump has effectively done, means that they would either have to raise costs or cut services without a metric tonne of donations.

And? To quote someone else:

And a person, with an identity of her own and the capacity to make choices and exercise her human rights.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I realized I can’t even debate abortion anymore without just getting angry

[Shrillland]

And, that often means that women won't get any of those screenings or treatments because they can't afford it. Planned Parenthood offers these things at a somewhat lower cost, and to force them out of Title X, as Trump has effectively done, means that they would either have to raise costs or cut services without a metric tonne of donations.

And? To quote someone else:

And a person, with an identity of her own and the capacity to make choices and exercise her human rights.

Does it really count as making a choice if they're forced to do something like this because they can't afford to do the right thing?

[Telconi]

And? To quote someone else:

Does it really count as making a choice if they're forced to do something like this because they can't afford to do the right thing?

Does being forced into such a choice invalidate a right?

[Confederate States of German America]

And? To quote someone else:

Does it really count as making a choice if they're forced to do something like this because they can't afford to do the right thing?

Yes because unless she is one of the exceedingly few cases of impregnation via rape, she's the one who fucked up. It's weird society is expected to subsidize their behavior and make the consequences of their action less despite their own capacity of reasoning, yet seeking to modify behavior or reduce it is an egregious transgression against it; it's attempting to have it both ways.

[Valrifell]

This isn't the abortion thread and I'm not having a fun time reading these arguments.

For the sake of my (and I assume others) warning history, could y'all take this elsewhere?

[Confederate States of German America]

This isn't the abortion thread and I'm not having a fun time reading these arguments.

For the sake of my (and I assume others) warning history, could y'all take this elsewhere?

Moderators: the unifying factor on NSG between Left-Right.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Does it really count as making a choice if they're forced to do something like this because they can't afford to do the right thing?

Yes because unless she is one of the exceedingly few cases of impregnation via rape, she's the one who fucked up. It's weird society is expected to subsidize their behavior and make the consequences of their action less despite their own capacity of reasoning, yet seeking to modify behavior or reduce it is an egregious transgression against it; it's attempting to have it both ways.

To be clear
Very few women get abortions even as a second choice
It’s an expensive and rather horrible experience that women would rather avoid at all costs
I don’t want to meet the woman going “oh yeah don’t worry I’ll just get an abortion”