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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:40 pm

Valrifell wrote:
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Very dictatorial.


Capitalists mentioning Trump's "CEO mentality" and how dictatorial he is are so close to getting the point.


There are many CEOs that are willing to work with others, it's just a matter of how much one is willing to delegate and place trust into the power they transfer. In Trump's case, he's a close-minded individual that, if we really think about, is not fond of delegating power unless his minions do his bidding and therefore, must have absolute obedience. Otherwise, he has no trust, even if they propose something better.

But I don't need to remind you of the dictatorial people on the left now, do I? I'm sure you're aware that one having authoritarian views is not limited to just capitalism, but also socialism and communism; it all depends on the individual.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:41 pm

Gay magazine Out says that decriminalising homosexuality is racist.

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Oh well. Maybe recriminalise it then.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:49 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:Gay magazine Out says that decriminalising homosexuality is racist.

Oh well. Maybe recriminalise it then.


Could you, perhaps, be nice enough to link the editorial so we can see the context of it please?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:52 pm

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White House officials have begun to have preliminary discussions about replacing Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats amid concerns that President Donald Trump may soon dismiss him, two senior administration officials told CNN, despite the President's public denial he's considering the move.
The conversations began this week in the West Wing after Trump spent the holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago venting to friends and advisers about the director of national intelligence, renewing his gripes about Coats' testimony before Congress last month. In that testimony, Coats publicly contradicted Trump's optimistic forecast about the chances North Korea will agree to give up its nuclear weapons.
Despite the venting, Trump on Wednesday told reporters: "I haven't even thought about it." But the President has also previously denied reports of staff shakeup only to later confirm them with his actions.


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Trumptonium1 wrote:Gay magazine Out says that decriminalising homosexuality is racist.



Oh well. Maybe recriminalise it then.

One jpg of the headline and no actual rebuttal to the meat of the article.

That's it?

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:54 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:Gay magazine Out says that decriminalising homosexuality is racist.

(Image)

Oh well. Maybe recriminalise it then.


If that's your take on the headline, you need your eyes tested. Saying that how they're going about it's an application of a racist tactic is not saying it's racist.
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Postby Borinsa » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:04 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:Gay magazine Out says that decriminalising homosexuality is racist.

(Image)

Oh well. Maybe recriminalise it then.


If that's your take on the headline, you need your eyes tested. Saying that how they're going about it's an application of a racist tactic is not saying it's racist.


Islam isn’t a race,
It’s an outdated and bigoted ideology (also known as a religion)

I’m all for telling Muslims that they aren’t allowed to kill gays.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:05 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:https://www.out.com/news-opinion/2019/2/19/trumps-plan-decriminalize-homosexuality-old-racist-tactic


TLDR: The administration is using gay issues as cover for Iran bashing.

Meh, not racist, this is still a case of stopped clock for Trump.

This article isn't that big a deal.

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Postby Borinsa » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:07 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:https://www.out.com/news-opinion/2019/2/19/trumps-plan-decriminalize-homosexuality-old-racist-tactic


TLDR: The administration is using gay issues as cover for Iran bashing.

Meh, not racist, this is still a case of stopped clock for Trump.

This article isn't that big a deal.


Even if Islam was a race, why would Trump hate Iran but then be buddy buddy with Saudi Arabia? It’s most likely all just about money and international power.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:07 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:https://www.out.com/news-opinion/2019/2/19/trumps-plan-decriminalize-homosexuality-old-racist-tactic


OK, just trolling Iran and the Islamic world, so it has nothing to do with actually improving LGBTQ lives and more to do with setting the Middle East by the ears.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:09 pm

Borinsa wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
TLDR: The administration is using gay issues as cover for Iran bashing.

Meh, not racist, this is still a case of stopped clock for Trump.

This article isn't that big a deal.


Even if Islam was a race, why would Trump hate Iran but then be buddy buddy with Saudi Arabia? It’s most likely all just about money and international power.

Nobody is saying that Islam is a race.
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Postby Borinsa » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:11 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
Even if Islam was a race, why would Trump hate Iran but then be buddy buddy with Saudi Arabia? It’s most likely all just about money and international power.

Nobody is saying that Islam is a race.


The article infers it by saying that opposing Islam or anything Muslim is racist.
That’s why it’s saying it’s a “racist” tactic.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:22 pm

Borinsa wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Nobody is saying that Islam is a race.


The article infers it by saying that opposing Islam or anything Muslim is racist.
That’s why it’s saying it’s a “racist” tactic.

If they are then it could possibly be because to “stick it to the Muslims” is (usually) also to “stick it to the Arabs” because to a lot of Americans, Arabs and Islam are inseparable.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:26 pm

Borinsa wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Nobody is saying that Islam is a race.


The article infers it by saying that opposing Islam or anything Muslim is racist.
That’s why it’s saying it’s a “racist” tactic.


Islam is not a race, as Arab-centric as it is.

It’s certainly more than "just" a religion though, it’s an entire socio-political machine.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:32 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
The article infers it by saying that opposing Islam or anything Muslim is racist.
That’s why it’s saying it’s a “racist” tactic.

If they are then it could possibly be because to “stick it to the Muslims” is (usually) also to “stick it to the Arabs” because to a lot of Americans, Arabs and Islam are inseparable.

Their opinion on Islam doesn't change just because not all Muslims are Arabic.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:35 pm

Trump doesn't know that he's pushing for the decriminalisation of homosexuality.
REPORTER: Mr President, on your push to decriminalize homosexuality, are you doing that? And why?
TRUMP: Say it?
REPORTER: Your push to decriminalize homosexuality across the world.
TRUMP: I don't know which report you're talking about. We have many reports. Anybody else?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:44 pm

Ifreann wrote:Trump doesn't know that he's pushing for the decriminalisation of homosexuality.
REPORTER: Mr President, on your push to decriminalize homosexuality, are you doing that? And why?
TRUMP: Say it?
REPORTER: Your push to decriminalize homosexuality across the world.
TRUMP: I don't know which report you're talking about. We have many reports. Anybody else?

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:46 pm

Ifreann wrote:Trump doesn't know that he's pushing for the decriminalisation of homosexuality.
REPORTER: Mr President, on your push to decriminalize homosexuality, are you doing that? And why?
TRUMP: Say it?
REPORTER: Your push to decriminalize homosexuality across the world.
TRUMP: I don't know which report you're talking about. We have many reports. Anybody else?


The irony is how I can sympathize with that, but only because it’s a brainfart.

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Postby Confederate States of German America » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:49 pm

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How so?


For potentially bypassing the requirements the Atomic Energy Act and using foreign policy to help enrich individuals that benefit greatly from it, especially those that are allied to Trump. The keywords in my post are "maybe illegal" since this an investigation that'll help determine whether any laws are violated, which is quite possible. It's all in the article...


Graft is a basis for a claim, but transferring nuclear technology is not; the AEA included specific provisions for allowing for the transfer of Nuclear tech, and Atoms for Peace was/is a thing.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:04 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
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Capitalists mentioning Trump's "CEO mentality" and how dictatorial he is are so close to getting the point.

But I don't need to remind you of the dictatorial people on the left now, do I? I'm sure you're aware that one having authoritarian views is not limited to just capitalism, but also socialism and communism; it all depends on the individual.


No, I'm not denying that, but the idea of a CEO is undemocratic is the point I was going for there. But even then, you're right in saying it's more of a scale than anything.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:42 pm

Confederate States of German America wrote:
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Nope.


Honestly no, given current nuclear weapons stockpiles and methodology.

No matter current stockpiles, what we have would still kill hundreds of millions, likely billions and leave large swaths of the planet irradiated and uninhabitable for decades/centuries to come and cause a global chain reaction of shitty environmental and climate consequences of catastrophic proportions. You seem to neglect to take into account any part of the aftermath of thousands of highly radioactive super explosions going off in a short period of time across large parts of the planet.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:47 pm

Sane Outcasts wrote:Trump Administration is Trying to Transfer American Nuclear Technology to Saudi Arabia

The Trump administration sought to rush the transfer of American nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia in potential violation of the law, a new report from the House Oversight and Reform Committee alleges.

Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings' staff issued an "interim staff" report Tuesday, citing "multiple whistleblowers" who raised ethical and legal concerns about the process.

"They have warned about political appointees ignoring directives from top ethics advisers at the White House who repeatedly and unsuccessfully ordered senior Trump administration officials to halt their efforts," the report states. "They have also warned of conflicts of interest among top White House advisers that could implicate federal criminal statutes."

Link to the report for the curious


Now if we could just give the tech to the Iranians and Palestinians too, then things would get interesting.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:09 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:But I don't need to remind you of the dictatorial people on the left now, do I? I'm sure you're aware that one having authoritarian views is not limited to just capitalism, but also socialism and communism; it all depends on the individual.


No, I'm not denying that, but the idea of a CEO is undemocratic is the point I was going for there. But even then, you're right in saying it's more of a scale than anything.


I think I read too far into and went off on a mini tangent. So, should the CEO be selected by the workers per say rather than by shareholders? Or in the world of politics: Trump should rely on the peoples' money and not the few ultra rich.

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Zurkerx wrote:
For potentially bypassing the requirements the Atomic Energy Act and using foreign policy to help enrich individuals that benefit greatly from it, especially those that are allied to Trump. The keywords in my post are "maybe illegal" since this an investigation that'll help determine whether any laws are violated, which is quite possible. It's all in the article...


Graft is a basis for a claim, but transferring nuclear technology is not; the AEA included specific provisions for allowing for the transfer of Nuclear tech, and Atoms for Peace was/is a thing.


Hmm, but someone was willing to go around the AEA, which requires certain provisions to be fulfilled such as security clearances hence ethical and legal processes were jeopardized. Regardless of its legality (I'll wait for what the investigation has to say), giving the Saudis nuclear technology is a terrible idea, especially since they're an unreliable ally.
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:10 pm

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Now if we could just give the tech to the Iranians and Palestinians too, then things would get interesting.


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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:14 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
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No Lord Buckethead, I didn’t see you playing with your dolls again.

I want to. :p


While that is a hilarious edit, it’s good forum etiquette to make note that it is your edit, usually via the strike method. You’re making me look far wittier than I actually am.
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