MAGAThread XV: Because Another

[Galloism]

I'd flat bar single-gender taxpayer-funded shelters to begin with. That's sexist on its face, even before you get to things like religious beliefs.

Even Men Only?

Yes - applied to all equally.

EDIT: As an aside, this is why you fail whenever you try to argue against me. You have this caricature of my position that bears no resemblance to reality, and keep trying to argue against it. In point of fact Gauth, I'm striving very very hard towards equality, but unfortunately, in our society, if you are truly nonsexist, that's viewed as sexism against women unless you preface every case of nonsexism with a qualifier that you're doing this to be nonsexist. This is why you think I'll be sexist in this regard - you assume my equality is sexism, when it's anything but. The average societal bias taints your view.

[Galloism]

Trump proposal would gut protections for transgender people at homeless shelters, advocates say

But remember, Trump was going to be the greatest ally the LGBT community could ask for, and who would totally defend us while Clinton was chomping at the bit to gut our rights.

Clinton was going to drag us into war, Clinton was going to be under constant investigation... If you compile a list of everything Donnie accused Clinton of you have a pretty good profile on him.

What war did we get drug into?

[Duhon]

The issue is that’s the kind of line wanna be dictators start using. Now, unlike you, I’m not one to clutch my pearls over every little thing Trump says, but this line does give me pause, particularly because I can’t tell if he’s joking or not.

It doesnt matter. The military and secret service would not take orders from him the moment the clock strikes noon January 20th 2021 or heaven forbid January 20th 2025. At that moment he is no longer president and would be forcibly removed from the building.

You honestly believe the military would say we dont like who get elected and we are going to back the incumbent president?

You may not believe that people would be so willing as to cast their lot with Trump in a coup attempt, but with Trump, all bets are off.

Prepare for the worst.

[San Lumen]

It doesnt matter. The military and secret service would not take orders from him the moment the clock strikes noon January 20th 2021 or heaven forbid January 20th 2025. At that moment he is no longer president and would be forcibly removed from the building.

You honestly believe the military would say we dont like who get elected and we are going to back the incumbent president?

You may not believe that people would be so willing as to cast their lot with Trump in a coup attempt, but with Trump, all bets are off.

Prepare for the worst.

I have friends in the military and come either of those dates they would not take orders from him. Such talk is ludicrous.

[Liriena]

https://mobile.twitter.com/shaunking/st ... 3090560000

Trump's concentration camps killed yet another child and they tried to cover it up.

[Tarsonis]

The issue is that’s the kind of line wanna be dictators start using. Now, unlike you, I’m not one to clutch my pearls over every little thing Trump says, but this line does give me pause, particularly because I can’t tell if he’s joking or not.

It doesnt matter. The military and secret service would not take orders from him the moment the clock strikes noon January 20th 2021 or heaven forbid January 20th 2025. At that moment he is no longer president and would be forcibly removed from the building.

You honestly believe the military would say we dont like who get elected and we are going to back the incumbent president?

If he gets elected in 2020, you’re assuming there will even be an election in 2024. Maybe he’s just playing coy, implying that he’ll push for a repeal of the 22nd, maybe he’s just trolling the liberal press, maybe he’s planning a coup. Who knows.

[San Lumen]

https://mobile.twitter.com/shaunking/status/1131332993090560000

Trump's concentration camps killed yet another child and they tried to cover it up.

and his supporters in rural america could care less

[Shrillland]

You may not believe that people would be so willing as to cast their lot with Trump in a coup attempt, but with Trump, all bets are off.

Prepare for the worst.

I have friends in the military and come either of those dates they would not take orders from him. Such talk is ludicrous.

That's what you think. Nothing is final in life, and trying to predict in such extreme circumstances is a fool's errand. Just cause your good friends would never do so doesn't mean others wouldn't.

[Tarsonis]

https://mobile.twitter.com/shaunking/status/1131332993090560000

Trump's concentration camps killed yet another child and they tried to cover it up.

Ugh, Sean King is still a thing?

[San Lumen]

It doesnt matter. The military and secret service would not take orders from him the moment the clock strikes noon January 20th 2021 or heaven forbid January 20th 2025. At that moment he is no longer president and would be forcibly removed from the building.

You honestly believe the military would say we dont like who get elected and we are going to back the incumbent president?

If he gets elected in 2020, you’re assuming there will even be an election in 2024. Maybe he’s just playing coy, implying that he’ll push for a repeal of the 22nd, maybe he’s just trolling the liberal press, maybe he’s planning a coup. Who knows.

elections are state run affairs and i doubt you'd get the required two thirds majority in either chamber to pass a repeal of it. The military doesnt have to blindly follow orders. If a order is unlawful they can refuse it.

[San Lumen]

I have friends in the military and come either of those dates they would not take orders from him. Such talk is ludicrous.

That's what you think. Nothing is final in life, and trying to predict in such extreme circumstances is a fool's errand. Just cause your good friends would never do so doesn't mean others wouldn't.

I think at that point even Republicans would say enough but the fact that I cannot say for certain is concerning

[Tarsonis]

If he gets elected in 2020, you’re assuming there will even be an election in 2024. Maybe he’s just playing coy, implying that he’ll push for a repeal of the 22nd, maybe he’s just trolling the liberal press, maybe he’s planning a coup. Who knows.

elections are state run affairs and i doubt you'd get the required two thirds majority in either chamber to pass a repeal of it. The military doesnt have to blindly follow orders. If a order is unlawful they can refuse it.

Sure I doubt he’d be successful. Which is more cause for concern not less.

Yes they can refuse. But there’s a huge difference between can and will. You don’t know these people like I do. It’s even money they back or resist.

[San Lumen]

elections are state run affairs and i doubt you'd get the required two thirds majority in either chamber to pass a repeal of it. The military doesnt have to blindly follow orders. If a order is unlawful they can refuse it.

Sure I doubt he’d be successful. Which is more cause for concern not less.

Yes they can refuse. But there’s a huge difference between can and will. You don’t know these people like I do. It’s even money they back or resist.

I have friends in the military and they told much such talk is ludicrous. It would never happen.

[Tarsonis]

Sure I doubt he’d be successful. Which is more cause for concern not less.

Yes they can refuse. But there’s a huge difference between can and will. You don’t know these people like I do. It’s even money they back or resist.

I have friends in the military and they told much such talk is ludicrous. It would never happen.

Yes you have friends in the military. I actually am military. It’s not ludicrous, it’s quite possible. Military is far more right wing, especially the combat elements. A coup would divide the military between constitutionalists and trump loyalists, and there’s no telling how that coin might land

[Internationalist Bastard]

Trump proposal would gut protections for transgender people at homeless shelters, advocates say

But remember, Trump was going to be the greatest ally the LGBT community could ask for, and who would totally defend us while Clinton was chomping at the bit to gut our rights.

We're totally not oppressed guys

[San Lumen]

I have friends in the military and they told much such talk is ludicrous. It would never happen.

Yes you have friends in the military. I actually am military. It’s not ludicrous, it’s quite possible. Military is far more right wing, especially the combat elements. A coup would divide the military between constitutionalists and trump loyalists, and there’s no telling how that coin might land

They honestly would refuse to accept the outcome of an election and instead back the incumbent president and lose any and all legitimacy and respect a majority has for them?

I would want anyone who did that prosecuted and jailed.

[Fartsniffage]

Even Men Only?

Yes - applied to all equally.

EDIT: As an aside, this is why you fail whenever you try to argue against me. You have this caricature of my position that bears no resemblance to reality, and keep trying to argue against it. In point of fact Gauth, I'm striving very very hard towards equality, but unfortunately, in our society, if you are truly nonsexist, that's viewed as sexism against women unless you preface every case of nonsexism with a qualifier that you're doing this to be nonsexist. This is why you think I'll be sexist in this regard - you assume my equality is sexism, when it's anything but. The average societal bias taints your view.

That's a bad idea.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Sure I doubt he’d be successful. Which is more cause for concern not less.

Yes they can refuse. But there’s a huge difference between can and will. You don’t know these people like I do. It’s even money they back or resist.

I have friends in the military and they told much such talk is ludicrous. It would never happen.

I was in the military and I have friends in the military and they don't tell me that.

My NCO even had a portrait of Trump.

[Tarsonis]

Yes you have friends in the military. I actually am military. It’s not ludicrous, it’s quite possible. Military is far more right wing, especially the combat elements. A coup would divide the military between constitutionalists and trump loyalists, and there’s no telling how that coin might land

They honestly would refuse to accept the outcome of an election and instead back the incumbent president and lose any and all legitimacy and respect a majority has for them?

I would want anyone who did that prosecuted and jailed.

Again, you’re still operating under the assumption there would even be election. Do you not understand how military coups work?

[San Lumen]

I have friends in the military and they told much such talk is ludicrous. It would never happen.

I was in the military and I have friends in the military and they don't tell me that.

My NCO even had a portrait of Trump.

and the generals would surely go along with this coup and not respect the outcome of the election? I would want anyone who attempted a military coup arrested, prosecuted and thrown in jail for years.

[San Lumen]

They honestly would refuse to accept the outcome of an election and instead back the incumbent president and lose any and all legitimacy and respect a majority has for them?

I would want anyone who did that prosecuted and jailed.

Again, you’re still operating under the assumption there would even be election. Do you not understand how military coups work?

and what is the military going to do? Shut down every polling place in the country? They are state run affairs.

[Tarsonis]

I was in the military and I have friends in the military and they don't tell me that.

My NCO even had a portrait of Trump.

and the generals would surely go along with this coup and not respect the outcome of the election? I would want anyone who attempted a military coup arrested, prosecuted and thrown in jail for years.

That would only happen if they lose

[The Empire of Pretantia]

I was in the military and I have friends in the military and they don't tell me that.

My NCO even had a portrait of Trump.

and the generals would surely go along with this coup and not respect the outcome of the election?

There are like a hundred times as many non-generals than generals in the Officer Corps who might not respect the outcome of the election.

[Galloism]

Yes - applied to all equally.

EDIT: As an aside, this is why you fail whenever you try to argue against me. You have this caricature of my position that bears no resemblance to reality, and keep trying to argue against it. In point of fact Gauth, I'm striving very very hard towards equality, but unfortunately, in our society, if you are truly nonsexist, that's viewed as sexism against women unless you preface every case of nonsexism with a qualifier that you're doing this to be nonsexist. This is why you think I'll be sexist in this regard - you assume my equality is sexism, when it's anything but. The average societal bias taints your view.

That's a bad idea.

I'm not sure why. It would be best for the trans community - there's no reason to even ask or care what gender they identify as.

[Tarsonis]

Again, you’re still operating under the assumption there would even be election. Do you not understand how military coups work?

and what is the military going to do? Shut down every polling place in the country? They are state run affairs.

San. Try to understand this. If there’s a successful military coup, there won’t be any elections, there won’t be any votes, there won’t be anything but martial law. The first thing God Emperor trump would do is pay a visit to the national archives with a paper shredder.