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Postby Liriena » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:04 pm

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Oh no, it's happening agaaaaaaaaaaain.

Reminder that fatherlessness...

I stopped reading right about there.

Holy shit lmao

How long until Ostro starts to unironically cite Stephan Molyneux as a source?
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Postby Scomagia » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:16 pm

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Scomagia wrote:It seems to me like maybe you simply didn't understand what he was saying. I believe he was referring to the bullies and not the girl. In fact, it's obvious that's what he meant. You'd need to have read the whole thing, of course, but it's obvious. Funny enough, this is the problem with not actually reading all of what someone said. So, maybe don't arbitrarily assume someone's meaning when they're actually telling you what they mean.


So what evidence do we have of absent fathers on the part of any of the bullies?

None. That was his point, not mine. My point was that his argument was being misrepresented by someone who hadn't even bothered to read his entire post.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:36 pm

Absolutely horrible.

She had so much life left to live.

Sadly she wasn't the only one in the US who felt that way.

The United States has had a massive problem with suicide and mental heath as of recent.

This needs to be addressed.


If you or any loved one has been having troubles in there life. Be it marriage, dating, bulling, anything.

Talk to them.

If you ever feel like you want to take your own life, do not hesitate to call 1-800-273-8255.

Mental health is just as serious as physical health.

Please, take care of yourself.

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Postby Katganistan » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:59 pm




Good lord, they're not even learning readin', writin' and 'rithmatic there. 58% proficiency in Math (and higher than the state average?) 39% in English Language Arts?


Jesus.

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Postby Andsed » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:02 pm

Holy shit my condolences to the family of this young girl. The bullies who did this honestly disgust me and I hope that the proper authorities take appropriate action to punish those responsible for this disgusting tragic death. This kind of shit is never fucking okay.
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Postby Katganistan » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:04 pm

Liriena wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:“She was being bullied the entire school year, with words such as ‘kill yourself,’ ‘you think you’re white because you ride with that white boy,’ ‘you ugly,’ ‘black bitch,’ ‘just die,’” Harris told the newspaper.

...what sort of primary school children talk like that? They sound like straight-up sociopaths.


You'd be amazed what school kids say.

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Postby Katganistan » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:18 pm

Cetacea wrote:Only one of the slurs listed concerns white friend the others are about the girl you black - you ugly, so why have you made this about anti white racism rather than the tragic mental abuse of a child?

It doesn't fit the "poor downtrodden whites" narrative.

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Postby Katganistan » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:20 pm

Sefy the Great wrote:truly tragic, but i want to know:
how did she know how to tie a noose? it says there that she was hanging, but...
i just, i just don't know. 9-year-olds knowing how to tie the hangman's necklace is weird, and unsettling.

Might have used a belt or something.

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Postby Kannap » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:21 pm

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Good lord, they're not even learning readin', writin' and 'rithmatic there. 58% proficiency in Math (and higher than the state average?) 39% in English Language Arts?


Jesus.


Yet still exceeding the state average. Amazing work, Alabama.
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Postby Kannap » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:23 pm

Sefy the Great wrote:truly tragic, but i want to know:
how did she know how to tie a noose? it says there that she was hanging, but...
i just, i just don't know. 9-year-olds knowing how to tie the hangman's necklace is weird, and unsettling.


I'm going to guess Google.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:42 pm

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New haven america wrote:I stopped reading right about there.

Why?

Gee, maybe because I don't want him to turn this into a thread about how all this is the fault of women and feminists? Like he has a noted history of doing...
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:28 am

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Good lord, they're not even learning readin', writin' and 'rithmatic there. 58% proficiency in Math (and higher than the state average?) 39% in English Language Arts?


Jesus.


And they are in the top third of all Alabama schools, even though they are in a poorer than the average alabaman district.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:50 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Katganistan wrote:

Good lord, they're not even learning readin', writin' and 'rithmatic there. 58% proficiency in Math (and higher than the state average?) 39% in English Language Arts?


Jesus.


And they are in the top third of all Alabama schools, even though they are in a poorer than the average alabaman district.


It could be worse, they could be in Mississippi
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:56 am

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Scomagia wrote:Why?


Because we have no evidence to suggest that the girl in question had an absent father, for one.


For another, it's Ostro's favorite segue to relate any topic back the feminism and women.
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:15 am

New haven america wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Why?

Gee, maybe because I don't want him to turn this into a thread about how all this is the fault of women and feminists? Like he has a noted history of doing...

So you make a post guaranteed to attract attention to his post. That's some interesting logic, dude.

His post doesn't even seem to be doing what you claim, either.
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Postby Grimmsland » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:25 pm

unfortunate, and even worse is that her bullies will laugh and make fun of her killing herself and the more sinister of them will feign emotional trauma to get out of class.

wish she had had an older sister or brother that could have helped her in some way... maybe going to those other kids houses and having it out with their parent or older siblings or cousins.

if assholes like this start disrespecting you in packs and you dont knock out the leader they wont stop..

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Postby Grimmsland » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:47 pm

Geneviev wrote:That's not great. She was too young to deal with any of that. It does seem to be normal in high school, though elementary school is too early.


Saw it starting in middle school.. so around 6th to 7th grade.. age range average of 10/11 (though there was a 16 year old in 7th with me. Alexander Cambell "Whop" and no he wasnt Italian.. no worries about personsl info.. he was shot and killed in South Carolina 20 years ago)

if you're dealing with people who will run over you .. you've got to be willing to fight. They will not respect you otherwise. Running to school authorities when you could have thwarted it in the beginning will only make it worse because they will catch you alone at some point. It is better to handle it and stop it before it escalates into your getting beaten to death by 3 or 4 of them.

I'm ofcourse speaking of kids 12 and up in general.. but honestly it would be ideal for any age to physically defend themselves..

If I had kids they'd be in some kind of martial art. Girl and boy.. especially girl!

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Postby Grimmsland » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:58 pm

Andsed wrote:Holy shit my condolences to the family of this young girl. The bullies who did this honestly disgust me and I hope that the proper authorities take appropriate action to punish those responsible for this disgusting tragic death. This kind of shit is never fucking okay.


nothing of any use will happen. They're too young and it was psychological harrassment.. and considering that they were this way means they're in a rough environment outside school .. and if authorities attempt to do anything to those kids , they're going to have some pushback from their families.

there might be some school counseling or something.. and I wouldn't put it passed their parents to even protest that.

ofcourse.. I could be wrong.

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Postby Saiwania » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:25 pm

Liriena wrote:How long until Ostro starts to unironically cite Stephan Molyneux as a source?


That there is a great man on Youtube. He often knows what he's talking about.

Grimmsland wrote:If I had kids they'd be in some kind of martial art. Girl and boy.. especially girl!


It usually costs quite a bit of money to get martial arts training for anyone and the kids won't benefit unless they put in the effort to do all the exercises and katas, etc. You'll want to know if whatever they're doing isn't going to waste. Some martial arts are objectively more effective than others. If an art is genuine, chances are it has lots of sparring. In most situations, high kicks are no good at close range in that it takes 1 or more seconds to deploy.

What martial arts you can learn, is often determined by where you live. It'll only be as good as whoever the teacher is and what the training actually entails.

One Chinese saying is that the hands of a scholar will be different from the hands of a warrior. Hand conditioning, while it will result in fists that can throw a punch or take damage, won't have as much precision as a normal untrained hand. It is a trade off. Some dexterity is permanently sacrificed for gains in another area.
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Postby Alorgaze » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:04 am

As heartbreaking as it is, racism ain't never gonna be eradicated totally. The utopia we dream of is just a mere fantasy. No matter how much we try there will always be monsters that'll keep reinforcing the ideology of racism and white supremacy. Did you know that slavery wasn't even ever eradicated? There are still millions of slaves in the world working day and night for their so called "masters" without any wage whatsoever. There are about 2 million slaves in Pakistan and in India the number rises to 18.3 million, that's a lot of people that are under cruel oppression.

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Postby Liriena » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:34 pm

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Liriena wrote:How long until Ostro starts to unironically cite Stephan Molyneux as a source?


That there is a great man on Youtube. He often knows what he's talking about.

No comment.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:48 pm

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Saiwania wrote:
That there is a great man on Youtube. He often knows what he's talking about.

No comment.


Isn't Stephan Molyneux just Ben Shapiro Lite?

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Liriena wrote:No comment.


Isn't Stephan Molyneux just Ben Shapiro Lite?

Actually, it's the other way around. Stephan Molyneux is a lot worse. For one, he's an unironic white supremacist who believes in "race and IQ".
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Liriena wrote:
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Isn't Stephan Molyneux just Ben Shapiro Lite?

Actually, it's the other way around. Stephan Molyneux is a lot worse. For one, he's an unironic white supremacist who believes in "race and IQ".

I thought people stopped taking that point of view seriously after the 50s.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:14 pm

Liriena wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Isn't Stephan Molyneux just Ben Shapiro Lite?

Actually, it's the other way around. Stephan Molyneux is a lot worse. For one, he's an unironic white supremacist who believes in "race and IQ".


A scientific racist, eh?

Also, IQ has become largely useless at actually pinpointing somebody's intelligence.

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