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Brazil second round Presidential Elections Vote and Post

1 - We support Far Right Wing former army Captain Jair Bolsonaro and retired General Antonio Hamilton Mourão of the Far Right Wing Conservative Social Liberal Party of Brazil for President and Vice President of Brazil.
104
49%
2 - We support Fernando Haddad of the Far Leftist Workers Party of Brazil and Manuela D'avila of the Communist Party of Brazil, together we can win, for President and Vice President of Brazil.
73
34%
3 - We support neither candidates and we vote Blank Ballots, either candidates will be bad for Brazil and the Brazilian people.
37
17%
 
Total votes : 214

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Postby Virgolia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:38 pm

Liriena wrote:
Virgolia wrote:That's not what I said,or at least not what I meant
If he does a genocide it will just affect brazilians,their problem,they chose it

but if he screws up the economy it will affect other people who had no say during the election.

Okay, but will it also affect the World Cup?

Let's hope it doesn't

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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:38 pm


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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:38 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:u ebil fascist xd

I-I only like the uniforms...
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Bolsonaro isn't some Trumper who is wrongly accused of being a fascist, this is a guy who said he thinks firing squads are appropriate for his political opponents, and who famously said that he would institute a military coup if elected, and famously said that Pinochet didn't kill and torture enough people.

Can we start calling him "mi general"?

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:39 pm

Liriena wrote:
Loben wrote:
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Man, Wojak has been looking like shit lately. Is he okay?

Just turned 30!
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Postby Virgolia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:39 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I-I only like the uniforms...

Can we start calling him "mi general"?

>libertarian
>supports military dictators

Economically he is a liberal,I believe.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:40 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I-I only like the uniforms...

Can we start calling him "mi general"?

>libertarian
>supports military dictators

Do you expect me to support communists?
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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:40 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I-I only like the uniforms...

Can we start calling him "mi general"?

>libertarian
>supports military dictators

No group has done more to undermine the legitimacy of right-wing libertarianism like right-wing libertarians.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:40 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:>libertarian
>supports military dictators

Do you expect me to support communists?

I mean, you could support libertarianism.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:40 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:>libertarian
>supports military dictators

Do you expect me to support communists?

What's the difference?
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:42 pm

Liriena wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:>libertarian
>supports military dictators

No group has done more to undermine the legitimacy of right-wing libertarianism like right-wing libertarians.

Admittedly, this is true.
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Do you expect me to support communists?

I mean, you could support libertarianism.

And Bolsonaro is a quicker route than his opponent was.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:43 pm


It is rather telling that lefties get all their memes from the right-wing.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:43 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Kowani wrote:South Korea. :eyebrow: I’m gonna need proof of all this right wing populism.


...never heard of chung-hee?

Kowani wrote:And no, Apartheid South Africa has a crap ton of blood on its hands.


despite all of its shortcomings, south africa was remarkably peaceful in terms of repression for an authoritarian government.

the only thing I can think of is the sharpeville thing, but that was a one-off event and first-hand accounts differ on it, with some black bystanders having backed the police's account of the story, and the police was majority black anyway.

We just gonna ignore the mass evictions? Okay.
How about police imprisonments of black people in white areas without a pass?
Or the 40,000 annual whippings?

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:43 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Not all Fascists are pro-environmentalists, therefore you're wrong.


Got any examples? Because I've never met one that wasn't. Fascists are all about spiritual reverence for their nation and homeland, so I find it really hard to believe they'd endorse letting corporations and industry just trash it to make a quick buck.


See: Bolsonaro. :^)

Furthermore, considering how heavily Fascism's been criticized for being unapologetically opportunistic and ideologically dishonest (and before we act like these are unfounded criticisms, the actions of the historical Fascist regimes and the credentials of the critics would easily prove that they're entirely founded on reality), it's not that hard to consider the environmentalism to be one of a million bullshit talking points meant to spur on support.

But, nah! Fascists would never ever ever EVER lie to get what they want! Why, that'd be uncouth!
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:44 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Liriena wrote:No group has done more to undermine the legitimacy of right-wing libertarianism like right-wing libertarians.

Admittedly, this is true.
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I mean, you could support libertarianism.

And Bolsonaro is a quicker route than his opponent was.

And the Pinochet and Videla support?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:45 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Do you expect me to support communists?

I mean, you could support libertarianism.

Libertarianism is a silly ideology and you know it. The majority of libertarians are either liberals who don’t want to be recognized as such or conservatives who don’t want to be recognized as such
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:45 pm

Kowani wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
...never heard of chung-hee?



despite all of its shortcomings, south africa was remarkably peaceful in terms of repression for an authoritarian government.

the only thing I can think of is the sharpeville thing, but that was a one-off event and first-hand accounts differ on it, with some black bystanders having backed the police's account of the story, and the police was majority black anyway.

We just gonna ignore the mass evictions? Okay.
How about police imprisonments of black people in white areas without a pass?
Or the 40,000 annual whippings?

http://www.sahistory.org.za/topic/polit ... -1961-1989


evictions and 'blood of dissidents and minorities' are two completely different levels

not like it doesn't happen in modern south africa against whites anyway, plenty of government-enforced evictions of white farmers and documented cases of black policemen targeting afrikaners, so do you want to call modern south africa fascist?
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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:45 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:>libertarian
>supports military dictators

Do you expect me to support communists?

I assumed a principled libertarian would favor abstention.

I mean, when the 2015 Argie presidential election came down to neolib Macri and peronist Scioli, the actually, honestly principled communists called for left-wing voters to cast blank ballots. When pressed to choose between two incredibly flawed candidates, but one of which supported policies somewhere in the vicinity of their own, they refused to choose altogether. They stood by their ideals even when they knew it could (and did) partially lead to a victory for the most right-wing candidate.

Why can't right-wing libertarians do the same? :thonk:
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:45 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Admittedly, this is true.

And Bolsonaro is a quicker route than his opponent was.

And the Pinochet and Videla support?


>Have the worst economic crisis in the history of your country
>slaughter thousands of people for not believing what you believe in
>"Pinochet was a Capitalist hero!!1!"

Ad infinitum, just change the name of the given dictator accordingly.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:45 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Got any examples? Because I've never met one that wasn't. Fascists are all about spiritual reverence for their nation and homeland, so I find it really hard to believe they'd endorse letting corporations and industry just trash it to make a quick buck.


See: Bolsonaro. :^)

Furthermore, considering how heavily Fascism's been criticized for being unapologetically opportunistic and ideologically dishonest (and before we act like these are unfounded criticisms, the actions of the historical Fascist regimes and the credentials of the critics would easily prove that they're entirely founded on reality), it's not that hard to consider the environmentalism to be one of a million bullshit talking points meant to spur on support.

But, nah! Fascists would never ever ever EVER lie to get what they want! Why, that'd be uncouth!


Kinda like how the left would never like to the Brazilian peo-

Oh wait.. They did, and they have also fucked over the country... Oh, wowzers, this is awkward. :?

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Postby NeuPolska » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:46 pm

Fuck socialism

Good for Brazil

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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:46 pm

Torrocca wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:And the Pinochet and Videla support?


>Have the worst economic crisis in the history of your country
>slaughter thousands of people for not believing what you believe in
>"Pinochet was a Capitalist hero!!1!"

Ad infinitum, just change the name of the given dictator accordingly.

With Videla he wouldn't even be able to argue that it's all justified because of "muh economy", given that Videla's dictatorship left our economy in shambles after applying a bunch of neocon policies.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:47 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Got any examples? Because I've never met one that wasn't. Fascists are all about spiritual reverence for their nation and homeland, so I find it really hard to believe they'd endorse letting corporations and industry just trash it to make a quick buck.


See: Bolsonaro. :^)

Furthermore, considering how heavily Fascism's been criticized for being unapologetically opportunistic and ideologically dishonest (and before we act like these are unfounded criticisms, the actions of the historical Fascist regimes and the credentials of the critics would easily prove that they're entirely founded on reality), it's not that hard to consider the environmentalism to be one of a million bullshit talking points meant to spur on support.

But, nah! Fascists would never ever ever EVER lie to get what they want! Why, that'd be uncouth!

The communists, the actual ones not your anarchists libertarian types, also lied to get what they wanted.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:47 pm

NeuPolska wrote:Fuck socialism

Good for Brazil

Counterpoint: socialism is awesome and all the cool kids are doing it
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:47 pm

NeuPolska wrote:Fuck socialism

Good for Brazil


You'd think someone who swore an oath to the United States constitution of all things would be aghast at the prospect of a Fascist being elected to office somewhere, but apparently not.

Liriena wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Do you expect me to support communists?

I assumed a principled libertarian would favor abstention.

I mean, when the 2015 Argie presidential election came down to neolib Macri and peronist Scioli, the actually, honestly principled communists called for left-wing voters to cast blank ballots. When pressed to choose between two incredibly flawed candidates, but one of which supported policies somewhere in the vicinity of their own, they refused to choose altogether. They stood by their ideals even when they knew it could (and did) partially lead to a victory for the most right-wing candidate with.

Why can't right-wing libertarians do the same? :thonk:


Sounds like a lot of unprincipled opportunism and ideological dishonesty to me. :3
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:48 pm

Liriena wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Do you expect me to support communists?

I assumed a principled libertarian would favor abstention.

I mean, when the 2015 Argie presidential election came down to neolib Macri and peronist Scioli, the actually, honestly principled communists called for left-wing voters to cast blank ballots. When pressed to choose between two incredibly flawed candidates, but one of which supported policies somewhere in the vicinity of their own, they refused to choose altogether. They stood by their ideals even when they knew it could (and did) partially lead to a victory for the most right-wing candidate with.

Why can't right-wing libertarians do the same? :thonk:

Because the majority of them are conservatives who don’t want to be called conservatives
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