Brazil Second Presidential N Paliament Elections 2018 Genral

[Virgolia]

That's not what I said,or at least not what I meant
If he does a genocide it will just affect brazilians,their problem,they chose it

but if he screws up the economy it will affect other people who had no say during the election.

Okay, but will it also affect the World Cup?

Let's hope it doesn't

[Liriena]

LOL DRINKING MY LIBERAL TEARZ XD XD XD SJWS TRIGGERED LMAO TOP KEK

Man, Wojak has been looking like shit lately. Is he okay?

[United Muscovite Nations]

u ebil fascist xd

I-I only like the uniforms...

Bolsonaro isn't some Trumper who is wrongly accused of being a fascist, this is a guy who said he thinks firing squads are appropriate for his political opponents, and who famously said that he would institute a military coup if elected, and famously said that Pinochet didn't kill and torture enough people.

Can we start calling him "mi general"?

>libertarian
>supports military dictators

[United Muscovite Nations]

Man, Wojak has been looking like shit lately. Is he okay?

Just turned 30!

[Virgolia]

I-I only like the uniforms...

Can we start calling him "mi general"?

>libertarian
>supports military dictators

Economically he is a liberal,I believe.

[Northern Davincia]

I-I only like the uniforms...

Can we start calling him "mi general"?

>libertarian
>supports military dictators

Do you expect me to support communists?

[Liriena]

I-I only like the uniforms...

Can we start calling him "mi general"?

>libertarian
>supports military dictators

No group has done more to undermine the legitimacy of right-wing libertarianism like right-wing libertarians.

[United Muscovite Nations]

>libertarian
>supports military dictators

Do you expect me to support communists?

I mean, you could support libertarianism.

[Hammer Britannia]

>libertarian
>supports military dictators

Do you expect me to support communists?

What's the difference?

[Northern Davincia]

>libertarian
>supports military dictators

No group has done more to undermine the legitimacy of right-wing libertarianism like right-wing libertarians.

Admittedly, this is true.

Do you expect me to support communists?

I mean, you could support libertarianism.

And Bolsonaro is a quicker route than his opponent was.

[Kaggeceria]

*siiiiiip*

LOL DRINKING MY LIBERAL TEARZ XD XD XD SJWS TRIGGERED LMAO TOP KEK

It is rather telling that lefties get all their memes from the right-wing.

[Kowani]

South Korea. I’m gonna need proof of all this right wing populism.

...never heard of chung-hee?

And no, Apartheid South Africa has a crap ton of blood on its hands.

despite all of its shortcomings, south africa was remarkably peaceful in terms of repression for an authoritarian government.

the only thing I can think of is the sharpeville thing, but that was a one-off event and first-hand accounts differ on it, with some black bystanders having backed the police's account of the story, and the police was majority black anyway.

We just gonna ignore the mass evictions? Okay.
How about police imprisonments of black people in white areas without a pass?
Or the 40,000 annual whippings?

http://www.sahistory.org.za/topic/polit ... -1961-1989

[Torrocca]

Not all Fascists are pro-environmentalists, therefore you're wrong.

Got any examples? Because I've never met one that wasn't. Fascists are all about spiritual reverence for their nation and homeland, so I find it really hard to believe they'd endorse letting corporations and industry just trash it to make a quick buck.

See: Bolsonaro. :^)

Furthermore, considering how heavily Fascism's been criticized for being unapologetically opportunistic and ideologically dishonest (and before we act like these are unfounded criticisms, the actions of the historical Fascist regimes and the credentials of the critics would easily prove that they're entirely founded on reality), it's not that hard to consider the environmentalism to be one of a million bullshit talking points meant to spur on support.

But, nah! Fascists would never ever ever EVER lie to get what they want! Why, that'd be uncouth!

[United Muscovite Nations]

No group has done more to undermine the legitimacy of right-wing libertarianism like right-wing libertarians.

Admittedly, this is true.

I mean, you could support libertarianism.

And Bolsonaro is a quicker route than his opponent was.

And the Pinochet and Videla support?

[Thermodolia]

Do you expect me to support communists?

I mean, you could support libertarianism.

Libertarianism is a silly ideology and you know it. The majority of libertarians are either liberals who don’t want to be recognized as such or conservatives who don’t want to be recognized as such

[Trumptonium1]

...never heard of chung-hee?



despite all of its shortcomings, south africa was remarkably peaceful in terms of repression for an authoritarian government.

the only thing I can think of is the sharpeville thing, but that was a one-off event and first-hand accounts differ on it, with some black bystanders having backed the police's account of the story, and the police was majority black anyway.

We just gonna ignore the mass evictions? Okay.
How about police imprisonments of black people in white areas without a pass?
Or the 40,000 annual whippings?

http://www.sahistory.org.za/topic/polit ... -1961-1989

evictions and 'blood of dissidents and minorities' are two completely different levels

not like it doesn't happen in modern south africa against whites anyway, plenty of government-enforced evictions of white farmers and documented cases of black policemen targeting afrikaners, so do you want to call modern south africa fascist?

[Liriena]

>libertarian
>supports military dictators

Do you expect me to support communists?

I assumed a principled libertarian would favor abstention.

I mean, when the 2015 Argie presidential election came down to neolib Macri and peronist Scioli, the actually, honestly principled communists called for left-wing voters to cast blank ballots. When pressed to choose between two incredibly flawed candidates, but one of which supported policies somewhere in the vicinity of their own, they refused to choose altogether. They stood by their ideals even when they knew it could (and did) partially lead to a victory for the most right-wing candidate.

Why can't right-wing libertarians do the same? :thonk:

[Torrocca]

Admittedly, this is true.

And Bolsonaro is a quicker route than his opponent was.

And the Pinochet and Videla support?

>Have the worst economic crisis in the history of your country
>slaughter thousands of people for not believing what you believe in
>"Pinochet was a Capitalist hero!!1!"

Ad infinitum, just change the name of the given dictator accordingly.

[Germanic Templars]

Got any examples? Because I've never met one that wasn't. Fascists are all about spiritual reverence for their nation and homeland, so I find it really hard to believe they'd endorse letting corporations and industry just trash it to make a quick buck.

See: Bolsonaro. :^)

Furthermore, considering how heavily Fascism's been criticized for being unapologetically opportunistic and ideologically dishonest (and before we act like these are unfounded criticisms, the actions of the historical Fascist regimes and the credentials of the critics would easily prove that they're entirely founded on reality), it's not that hard to consider the environmentalism to be one of a million bullshit talking points meant to spur on support.

But, nah! Fascists would never ever ever EVER lie to get what they want! Why, that'd be uncouth!

Kinda like how the left would never like to the Brazilian peo-

Oh wait.. They did, and they have also fucked over the country... Oh, wowzers, this is awkward.

[NeuPolska]

Fuck socialism

Good for Brazil

[Liriena]

And the Pinochet and Videla support?

>Have the worst economic crisis in the history of your country
>slaughter thousands of people for not believing what you believe in
>"Pinochet was a Capitalist hero!!1!"

Ad infinitum, just change the name of the given dictator accordingly.

With Videla he wouldn't even be able to argue that it's all justified because of "muh economy", given that Videla's dictatorship left our economy in shambles after applying a bunch of neocon policies.

[Thermodolia]

Got any examples? Because I've never met one that wasn't. Fascists are all about spiritual reverence for their nation and homeland, so I find it really hard to believe they'd endorse letting corporations and industry just trash it to make a quick buck.

See: Bolsonaro. :^)

Furthermore, considering how heavily Fascism's been criticized for being unapologetically opportunistic and ideologically dishonest (and before we act like these are unfounded criticisms, the actions of the historical Fascist regimes and the credentials of the critics would easily prove that they're entirely founded on reality), it's not that hard to consider the environmentalism to be one of a million bullshit talking points meant to spur on support.

But, nah! Fascists would never ever ever EVER lie to get what they want! Why, that'd be uncouth!

The communists, the actual ones not your anarchists libertarian types, also lied to get what they wanted.

[Liriena]

Fuck socialism

Good for Brazil

Counterpoint: socialism is awesome and all the cool kids are doing it

[Torrocca]

Fuck socialism

Good for Brazil

You'd think someone who swore an oath to the United States constitution of all things would be aghast at the prospect of a Fascist being elected to office somewhere, but apparently not.

Do you expect me to support communists?

I assumed a principled libertarian would favor abstention.

I mean, when the 2015 Argie presidential election came down to neolib Macri and peronist Scioli, the actually, honestly principled communists called for left-wing voters to cast blank ballots. When pressed to choose between two incredibly flawed candidates, but one of which supported policies somewhere in the vicinity of their own, they refused to choose altogether. They stood by their ideals even when they knew it could (and did) partially lead to a victory for the most right-wing candidate with.

Why can't right-wing libertarians do the same? :thonk:

Sounds like a lot of unprincipled opportunism and ideological dishonesty to me. :3

[Thermodolia]

Do you expect me to support communists?

I assumed a principled libertarian would favor abstention.

I mean, when the 2015 Argie presidential election came down to neolib Macri and peronist Scioli, the actually, honestly principled communists called for left-wing voters to cast blank ballots. When pressed to choose between two incredibly flawed candidates, but one of which supported policies somewhere in the vicinity of their own, they refused to choose altogether. They stood by their ideals even when they knew it could (and did) partially lead to a victory for the most right-wing candidate with.

Why can't right-wing libertarians do the same? :thonk:

Because the majority of them are conservatives who don’t want to be called conservatives