More brown stuff comes out of Ajit Pai's Pie Hole

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

Obama was obligated to nominate a Republican for the post. Blaming him for following the law makes no sense.

The commission has to be split between republicans and democrats. Obama had to appoint a republican and one which would be approved iirc.

It’s called appointing a different republican. It’s not that hard to understand. Jesus.

Your point is misleading in that regard but technically accurate. Obama did appoint him at the behest of the republican party and when they won the election they unleashed their lobbyist on our internet.

Because in 2012 the idea was that a Democrat would win to take Obama’s place. That obviously didn’t happen and instead Obama gave into the republicans.

Also don't call the president a dog. I don't like him either but he is still human.

I didn’t call Trump a dog. It was an Analogy. I actually don’t mind Trump.

So you are saying he could have appointed a different person which would not have trashes net neutrality which is misleading. The FCC must be half Democrat and half republican with the tie breaker being the chairman who is selected by the president. Members are appointed by the president with Senate approval. The Senate was technically a Democrat majority with 1 vacant seat but as I hope you know a minority of 49 to 50 can raise hell in those Chambers and stall a lot of legislation. He could have fought them and gotten a different corporate lobbyist sponsered by republicans but not a Democrat or even someone moderate. He couldn't see the future. Deal with it and stop blaming someone who has been out of office for a year and a half when the person in office could fix this shit with one phone call right now.

[Petrolheadia]

From a country with no net neutrality, I pity the Californians for being unable to get site-specific deals.

Also, 10/10 unbiased neutral title.

[NeoOasis]

From a country with no net neutrality, I pity the Californians for being unable to get site-specific deals.

The upside is they won't be locked out of specific sites. All sites should be treated equally regardless of what they contain.

[Petrolheadia]

From a country with no net neutrality, I pity the Californians for being unable to get site-specific deals.

The upside is they won't be locked out of specific sites. All sites should be treated equally regardless of what they contain.

How often does this lockout happen? All I've seen here is just deals advetising stuff like no data cap on YouTube or Facebook or Instagram or etc.

Locking websites your customers might like is a good way to make your customer switch.

[Des-Bal]

Okay so how do we get rid of this fucker? He ignores the will of the people and we have no power to vote for a replacement. Since we're clearly not living in the world of democracy anymore I vote we plot to lock him in the dungeon and prop up his heir as a puppet someone write a letter to the pope, if we can get this thing legitimized it will go a lot smoother.

[Petrolheadia]

Okay so how do we get rid of this fucker?

We don't.

[Oil exporting People]

sause

Ajit Pai calls California’s net neutrality rules “illegal”

CA enforcing neutrality because "Pai abdicated his responsibility," senator says

California's attempt to enforce net neutrality rules is "illegal" and "poses a risk to the rest of the country," Federal Communications Commission Chairman Ajit Pai said in a speech on Friday.

Pai's remarks drew an immediate rebuke from California Senator Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco), who authored the net neutrality bill that passed California's legislature and now awaits the signature of Governor Jerry Brown.

California's net neutrality rules are "necessary and legal because Chairman Pai abdicated his responsibility to ensure an open Internet," Wiener said in a press release.

"Unlike Pai's FCC, California isn't run by the big telecom and cable companies," Wiener also said. "Pai can take whatever potshots at California he wants. The reality is that California is the world's innovation capital, and unlike the crony capitalism promoted by the Trump administration, California understands exactly what it takes to foster an open innovation economy with a level playing field."

Pai claims power to preempt state rules
Pai targeted the California rules in a speech at the Maine Heritage Policy Center (transcript).

Pai derided what he called "nanny-state California legislators," and said:

The broader problem is that California's micromanagement poses a risk to the rest of the country. After all, broadband is an interstate service; Internet traffic doesn't recognize state lines. It follows that only the federal government can set regulatory policy in this area. For if individual states like California regulate the Internet, this will directly impact citizens in other states.

Among other reasons, this is why efforts like California's are illegal. In fact, just last week, the US Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit reaffirmed the well-established law that state regulation of information services is preempted by federal law. Last December, the FCC made clear that broadband is just such an information service.

We covered that court ruling last week. The ruling preempted Minnesota's attempt to regulate VoIP phone services offered by cable companies, but there are some key differences between the Minnesota case and the question of whether states can impose net neutrality rules.

The FCC never decided whether VoIP is an information service, and it still imposes some regulations on VoIP. In the net neutrality case, supporters of state rules argue that they can't be preempted by the FCC because the FCC abandoned its regulatory authority over broadband.

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"Since the FCC says it no longer has any authority to protect an open Internet, it's also the case that the FCC lacks the legal power to preempt states from protecting their residents and economy," Wiener said.

Pai doesn't have a perfect track record when it comes to predicting whether a set of net neutrality rules would hold up in court. He claimed that the FCC rules that passed in 2015 relied on "legal authority the FCC doesn't have," but those were upheld by a federal appeals court.

If California's bill is signed into law, ISPs and broadband industry trade groups will likely sue the state to block the rules. But the FCC's preemption authority is not unlimited, as seen in a 2016 court decision that prevented the FCC from preempting state laws that restrict the growth of municipal broadband networks.

Pai “said nothing” when Verizon throttled firefighters
To Pai, rules that prevent ISPs from interfering with Internet traffic are simply "government control of the Internet." He has been using that phrase for years to describe the FCC's now-repealed net neutrality rules, and he used it again Friday to describe the California rules.

But the California rules are even worse than the FCC ones, Pai said, calling the California legislation "a radical, anti-consumer Internet regulation bill that would impose restrictions even more burdensome than those adopted by the FCC in 2015."

The California rules are actually quite similar to those that used to be enforced by the FCC before Pai led a vote to kill the rules. The California bill bans blocking, throttling, and paid prioritization, just like the federal rules did. California's bill goes beyond the old FCC rules by also banning paid data-cap exemptions ("zero-rating").

Pai said the California bill's restriction on zero-rating will "prevent Californian consumers from buying many free-data plans," including ones that "allow consumers to stream video, music, and the like exempt from any data limits."

The California bill would prevent ISPs from demanding payments from websites or online services in exchange for data cap exemptions. California lawmakers decided to ban paid data-cap exemptions because they could prioritize some services over others and give ISPs an incentive to impose lower data limits.

But the California bill allows ISPs to exempt entire categories of Internet content (such as video and music) from data caps. That means the zero-rating in programs like T-Mobile's Binge On and Music Freedom would be allowed under the pending California law.

Wiener said his bill ensures that "we as individuals get to decide where we go on the Internet, rather than having Internet service providers decide for us," and that "big telecom and cable companies can't force us to get our information only from favored websites."

Wiener also criticized Pai for remaining silent on Verizon's recent throttling of Santa Clara County firefighters while they fought the state's largest-ever wildfire.

"When Verizon was caught throttling the data connection of a wildfire-fighting crew in California, Chairman Pai said nothing and did nothing," Wiener said. "That silence says far more than his words today."

My opinion, keep on going on cali.

The people who are really active about State's rights should also be behind Cali on this.


Also, a reminder that Trump appointed Ajit Pai, therefor he takes some responsibly for what Ajit Pai has done to the US.


Your thoughts NSG?

It's rather hilarious how racist the title is

[Des-Bal]

It's rather hilarious how racist the title is

I'm super excited to hear more.

[Oil exporting People]

It's rather hilarious how racist the title is

I'm super excited to hear more.

Google Ajit Pai, look at his picture and then come back and reflect upon the title.

[Des-Bal]

Google Ajit Pai, look at his picture and then come back and reflect upon the title.

No thank you, you can explain.

[Oil exporting People]

Google Ajit Pai, look at his picture and then come back and reflect upon the title.

No thank you, you can explain.

I just did. If you need anymore help, quite frankly we'll need to breakout the picture books.

[Des-Bal]

I just did. If you need anymore help, quite frankly we'll need to breakout the picture books.

Please do. What you're saying is utter fucking nonsense and it might be a kick to watch you try to draw a thread of logic through it. I'm trying to wrap my head around it but my best working theories are that you might not be clear on what racism or races are.

The brown stuff is shit. The title implies that Ajit Pai is talking shit. The OP didn't want the word shit in the title so they didn't write shit but that's clearly what their talking about. If it's racist then it's a racist riddle.

What did you think is coming out of his mouth that's brown? He's a different color on the inside, there is no race of people with something brown in their mouth that could come out.

Do you understand that in this situation going "oh I see how that's racist" just demonstrates you're really good at noticing and highlighting people's skin color?

I could spend all day just going over the things that don't make sense but if you have picture books that would be just the tops.

[Barunia]

So, California can't do what it wants because the internet doesn't recognise state lines and it will effect citizens in other states but the FCC can regulate the internet despite it effecting people in other countries?

Internet ignores all borders, even international ones.

[Oil exporting People]

The brown stuff is shit. The title implies that Ajit Pai is talking shit. The OP didn't want the word shit in the title so they didn't write shit but that's clearly what their talking about. If it's racist then it's a racist riddle.

When you're desperate to explain away the dog whistle, it's very telling.

[Valentine Z]

Erm... NO? I don't want to derail the thread, but you can clearly see NERVUN's edit that it's to remove the swear word. Mind you, you will realise that every single title for all the threads do not have a swear word in them. Shit => Brown Stuff. Not everything is racist, or has that implication, my friend!

There's nothing racist here; it's just a matter of coincidence.

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Now, about the main topic... California rules, my dudes. Keep on fighting the good fight, and don't let the neutrality go!

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You know what the worst thing about this is? Ajit Pai still doesn't even crack my top 10 of the worst people in Washington DC/Trump's administration. Which is not to say he isn't awful.

[Myrensis]

The brown stuff is shit. The title implies that Ajit Pai is talking shit. The OP didn't want the word shit in the title so they didn't write shit but that's clearly what their talking about. If it's racist then it's a racist riddle.

When you're desperate to explain away the dog whistle, it's very telling.

I see the 'rampant projection' pillar of conservative thought is still going strong.

Just because racist dog whistles are fundamental to your political ideology doesn't meant they are to everyone's.

Anyhow, hope California is successful.

I for one am perfectly happy with the current awful nanny-state consumer hating "You pay for an internet speed, you access anything and everything you want on the internet at that speed, period." state of affairs.

Must be my evil liberal socialism shining through that I don't see the clear superiority of the FWEE MAWKET more consumer friendly "Make your internet bill look like your cable bill, shell out hundreds of dollars extra a month if you want special packages to let you access specific websites at particular speeds, maybe, if the website you're accessing has also paid the ISP more to avoid being throttled or blocked." Republican ideal.

[Vassenor]

So are people still trying to pretend that Trump is some sort of perfect angel that can never ever ever be blamed for anything?

[Barunia]

So are people still trying to pretend that Trump is some sort of perfect angel that can never ever ever be blamed for anything?

Of course he is, after all he keeps telling everybody so. He wouldn't lie, would he?

/sarcasm

[Page]

So are people still trying to pretend that Trump is some sort of perfect angel that can never ever ever be blamed for anything?

From my experience with my own Trump-voting family members, the denial continues as of September 2018 and I don't see any signs of the denial letting up.

[Vassenor]

Because seriously "Obama put him on the board so it must be his fault" is just bullshit. Pai was only in the position to nuke Net Neutrality at the behest of his former employers at Verizon because Trump put him in control.

[Chestaan]

From a country with no net neutrality, I pity the Californians for being unable to get site-specific deals.

Also, 10/10 unbiased neutral title.

What country is that?

Because seriously "Obama put him on the board so it must be his fault" is just bullshit. Pai was only in the position to nuke Net Neutrality at the behest of his former employers at Verizon because Trump put him in control.

Trump's pretty shit on net neutrailty but so was Obama.

[Vassenor]

From a country with no net neutrality, I pity the Californians for being unable to get site-specific deals.

Also, 10/10 unbiased neutral title.

What country is that?

Because seriously "Obama put him on the board so it must be his fault" is just bullshit. Pai was only in the position to nuke Net Neutrality at the behest of his former employers at Verizon because Trump put him in control.

Trump's pretty shit on net neutrailty but so was Obama.

In what way?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Honestly thought there was some racism going on with that title name.

Brown stuff replaces shit, which is pretty much accurate for what often comes out of Pai's mouth. No racism.

[Uxupox]

Honestly thought there was some racism going on with that title name.

Brown stuff replaces shit, which is pretty much accurate for what often comes out of Pai's mouth. No racism.

It's just based on the open defecation stereotype that India and the Hindus currently possess.