by Yagon » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:31 pm
by Xmara » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:43 pm
Yagon wrote:Putin doesn't make a move until he knows what Greed and Death wants done. The utility companies in Luxembourg answer directly to Bombadii. Gallo completely controls the American IRS. Nanatsu holds the Japanese secret anthropomorphic robot-figherjet squadron in the palm of her hand like a phone.
by Yagon » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:48 pm
Xmara wrote:Yagon wrote:Putin doesn't make a move until he knows what Greed and Death wants done. The utility companies in Luxembourg answer directly to Bombadii. Gallo completely controls the American IRS. Nanatsu holds the Japanese secret anthropomorphic robot-figherjet squadron in the palm of her hand like a phone.
Can I control Starfleet?
by Bombadil » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:01 pm
Yagon wrote:The utility companies in Luxembourg answer directly to Bombadii.
by Yagon » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:07 pm
Bombadil wrote:Yagon wrote:The utility companies in Luxembourg answer directly to Bombadii.
The plural of Bombadil is indeed Bombadii.. and yes we're multiplying..
I'd say there's a few factors in all this:
1. The rise of opinion media.. opinion used to really be isolated to the Editorial of media, but through the 80's, breaking of unions, tabloidisation of media.. we had celebrity Opinion columnists where 'opinion' now forms the major part of any media. This rapidly became a race to the bottom fuelled by having to fill 24 hour news and then online media. Everything is opinion now..
2. The fuel of digital - the water cooler is no longer where such opinion is discussed and fuelled.. it's online.. where a lie could circle the world before the truth had time to put on its shoes the lie can now envelop the world, burrow into niches and make its way into full political discourse. Communities grow, build and amplify opinion exponentially
3. The price of content - alongside that the price of content is nothing, you don't need a printing press and distribution to get information out.. any of us can build a website, make a video, doctor a photo, discover crap sources..
4. Algorithmic gaming - fake news started as purposeful attention grabbers to drive advertising revenue.. but algorithms don't assess quality so much as quantity, less should you read this and are you likely to read this..
Snap it all together and you can create your own little conspiracy theory on anything you want - I'm no longer surprised even in parodying something to later Google and find a serious community on that parody. The volume starts to bring it into the mainstream, not of an individual conspiracy but of the whole volume of conspiracy theories and bullshit out there.
I was an advocate back in the early days of the Internet of let it all hang, the truth will out, an evolution of user intelligence in sorting the wheat from the chaff.. I'm not convinced by my younger self.. I don't think I factored in decreasing attention spans.
by Bombadil » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:19 pm
Yagon wrote:Was that why we're about to fall off the wrong side of the evolutionary tightrope?
Few of us (a might few, but few) are good at that.
by Yagon » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:30 pm
Bombadil wrote:Yagon wrote:Was that why we're about to fall off the wrong side of the evolutionary tightrope?
I'm currently reading Homo Deus by Yuval Noah Harari, he does lay out an argument that we're on an evolutionary tightrope, that our primal requirements evolved over time are a real problem.. a need to consume in a post-scarcity world, a curiosity to tinker with things we cannot fathom the consequences of, a desire to reduce attention for difficult things..Few of us (a might few, but few) are good at that.
..and that disparity will widen, go back to Kurzweil and the like and the theory is that the speed of technological change will create a few 'those who can' and a lot of 'those who can't'. Anyone railing at the morality of augmentation, genetic engineering and etc., will simply be superfluous to requirements.
Let the masses have their reality TV, their conspiracy theories and their fatuous politicians and political systems.. they'll be irrelevant to the progress of the elite.
Pretty sure you and I are not included in that few.
by Ethel mermania » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:33 pm
by Bombadil » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:03 pm
Yagon wrote:I hope I see you again, Bombadil, and I'll wear an obnoxiously patterned blazer so you'll know me, and we'll drink and remember this "Time"...
by USS Monitor » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:11 pm
by Yagon » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:11 pm
Bombadil wrote:Yagon wrote:I hope I see you again, Bombadil, and I'll wear an obnoxiously patterned blazer so you'll know me, and we'll drink and remember this "Time"...
May our drink be a bowl of the finest Ayahuasca.
It's been a long time since I last plied myself with acid or drank a healthy cup of mushroom tea but I rather think it's about time I indulged once more to break the calcification of thoughts as I age.
LSD makes the brain more “complete”, scientists have claimed in a pioneering and controversial new study.
The drug breaks down the parts of the brain that usually separate different functions, like vision and movement, creating a more “integrated or unified brain”, the researchers claim. They also found that people who are having drug-induced hallucinations “see” with various other parts of their brain, not just the visual cortex that is active in normal vision.
"Normally our brain consists of independent networks that perform separate specialised functions, such as vision, movement and hearing - as well as more complex things like attention,” said Robin Carhart-Harris, who led the research and is the first scientist in 40 years to test LSD on humans, in a statement. “However, under LSD the separateness of these networks breaks down and instead you see a more integrated or unified brain.
"Our results suggest that this effect underlies the profound altered state of consciousness that people often describe during an LSD experience. It is also related to what people sometimes call 'ego-dissolution', which means the normal sense of self is broken down and replaced by a sense of reconnection with themselves, others and the natural world.
Link
It's science so..
by Yagon » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:15 pm
USS Monitor wrote:I wish it was true about mods secretly controlling the world.
by Bombadil » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:21 pm
Yagon wrote:USS Monitor wrote:I wish it was true about mods secretly controlling the world.
There's a you in some world out there, maybe this one for all I know, where that wish is enacted.
Watch out for "them". I don't know why they want to kick over the table. I don't know if they're like Kerghan in Arcanum or what the fuck they're doing this for, but they're real (in some universe, maybe this one for all I know).
by Yagon » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:24 pm
Bombadil wrote:Yagon wrote:
There's a you in some world out there, maybe this one for all I know, where that wish is enacted.
Watch out for "them". I don't know why they want to kick over the table. I don't know if they're like Kerghan in Arcanum or what the fuck they're doing this for, but they're real (in some universe, maybe this one for all I know).
Yagon: '..in the eternity of space, there is probably a planet out there, just like this one, where another you is photographing back down towards us. I mean, essentially you are photographing yourself in a parallel universe.. I mean, there are infinite worlds out there you know? Where anything you want to happen.. does happen.."
USS Monitor: 'Yagon, this is the kind of pretentious bullshit Americans always say to French girls so they can sleep with them..'
by Torrocca » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:27 pm
by Bombadil » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:32 pm
by Yagon » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:35 pm
Torrocca wrote:Am I the secret chaos agent that inevitably fucks everyone's carefully-constructed schemes, plots, and plans up beyond all repair? Because I wanna be that! That'd definitely kick this up way past a 5 on this 5-point scale... :^)
by Torrocca » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:36 pm
Yagon wrote:Torrocca wrote:Am I the secret chaos agent that inevitably fucks everyone's carefully-constructed schemes, plots, and plans up beyond all repair? Because I wanna be that! That'd definitely kick this up way past a 5 on this 5-point scale... :^)
Write a role for the devil, and He will audition...
by Yagon » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:37 pm
Bombadil wrote:In looking for another article that was kind of explaining the same thing.. that the noise of Qanon doesn't necessarily translate into belief in Qanon.. I found this better study..
We were able to glean characteristics of this community by writing a computer program to analyze every single user who has commented on /r/greatawakening. From there, we looked at what other subreddits outside of /r/greatawakening these users participate in.
We found that most participants are relatively casual conspiracy theorists. Their interest in /r/greatawakening largely comes from their enthusiastic support for Trump. (There’s also a handful of Bernie Sanders supporters mixed in.) Their interests coalesce around things like video games, cryptocurrency, men’s rights, and martial arts. Although Reddit doesn’t ask for demographic data, it’s not a reach to say they are predominantly white men.
But here’s the kicker: An astoundingly small number of people produce the majority of the content. About 200 users account for a quarter of the forum’s comments. These people are clearly conspiracy theorists who believe they are investigators unearthing the truth, and they spend almost all their time on Reddit investigating these theories.
Another 700 users account for the next quarter of comments. The user we followed at the top of this story is among these people. They are active in /r/greatawakening but also spend time on other subreddits.
Nearly everyone else in the subreddit — the 11,000 commenters and 42,000 lurkers — are just along for the ride.
by Torrocca » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:39 pm
by USS Monitor » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:46 pm
Yagon wrote:I am embarassed being someone who passes for white generally that "video games, cryptocurrency, men's rights, and martial arts" implies white men, but I'd confess to believing the connection.
by Bombadil » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:48 pm
Yagon wrote:Bombadil wrote:In looking for another article that was kind of explaining the same thing.. that the noise of Qanon doesn't necessarily translate into belief in Qanon.. I found this better study..
We were able to glean characteristics of this community by writing a computer program to analyze every single user who has commented on /r/greatawakening. From there, we looked at what other subreddits outside of /r/greatawakening these users participate in.
We found that most participants are relatively casual conspiracy theorists. Their interest in /r/greatawakening largely comes from their enthusiastic support for Trump. (There’s also a handful of Bernie Sanders supporters mixed in.) Their interests coalesce around things like video games, cryptocurrency, men’s rights, and martial arts. Although Reddit doesn’t ask for demographic data, it’s not a reach to say they are predominantly white men.
But here’s the kicker: An astoundingly small number of people produce the majority of the content. About 200 users account for a quarter of the forum’s comments. These people are clearly conspiracy theorists who believe they are investigators unearthing the truth, and they spend almost all their time on Reddit investigating these theories.
Another 700 users account for the next quarter of comments. The user we followed at the top of this story is among these people. They are active in /r/greatawakening but also spend time on other subreddits.
Nearly everyone else in the subreddit — the 11,000 commenters and 42,000 lurkers — are just along for the ride.
Those are in a way comforting numbers.
I am embarassed being someone who passes for white generally that "video games, cryptocurrency, men's rights, and martial arts" implies white men, but I'd confess to believing the connection.
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