Delaware bans Conversion Therapy

[The Empire of Pretantia]

I mean... I find torture for those who kill people to be just a wee bit different than torture for people who like the same genitals.

It is tantamount to torture considering what some of these so called doctors and therapists do to their patients.

Is it torture or is it tantamount to torture? Make up your mind.

[Senkaku]

It is tantamount to torture considering what some of these so called doctors and therapists do to their patients.

Is it torture or is it tantamount to torture? Make up your mind.

No, it's definitely torture.

I'm not going to complain a lot about waterboarding a terrorist besides pointing out that it's an ineffective method of extracting information, but torturing innocent people, especially minors, is a different matter.

[Kramanica]

"Conversion therapy" has been dying for some time now. This is just virtue-signalling of the highest order. It's completely meaningless.

This makes about as much sense as saying that since crime rates are dropping, new legislation to further reduce them and to protect people is "meaningless virtue-signaling."

This is not completely meaningless, it's a considerable step forward for human rights.

Banning a voluntary procedure that's already dying is a "considerable step forward for human rights"?

Well shit. Somebody give the governor the Nobel Peace Prize.

[Thermodolia]

Should be a federal law tbh

[Galway-Dublin]

Good to hear, it's a shame more states haven't banned this kind of shit.

[Grenartia]

Did anyone suggest that? No.

I mean, based on your subsequent post, it doesn't even seem like you oppose it, so why the snark? It seems like a pretty worthy cause to stop innocent kids from getting tortured.

1. "Conversion therapy" has been dying for some time now. 2. This is just virtue-signalling of the highest order. 3. It's completely meaningless.

1. Not fast enough.

2. Well, I guess if you use a meaningless buzzphrase to describe something, you can never be wrong, since it has whatever meaning you want it to have.

3. Just like your post.

[Hammer Britannia]

I couldn't give less of a shit

[Grenartia]

This makes about as much sense as saying that since crime rates are dropping, new legislation to further reduce them and to protect people is "meaningless virtue-signaling."

This is not completely meaningless, it's a considerable step forward for human rights.

Banning a voluntary procedure that's already dying is a "considerable step forward for human rights"?

Well shit. Somebody give the governor the Nobel Peace Prize.

"Voluntary". "Already dying".

Imagine being this poorly informed.

[The South Falls]

Great. I'd think that that's great.

[Clintonburge]

Gay conversion therapy makes as much sense as corrective rape.

[Vassenor]

I couldn't give less of a shit

You apparently cared enough to make sure we all know just how little you care.

[Grenartia]

I couldn't give less of a shit

Obviously false, or you wouldn't have posted here.

[Senkaku]

This makes about as much sense as saying that since crime rates are dropping, new legislation to further reduce them and to protect people is "meaningless virtue-signaling."

This is not completely meaningless, it's a considerable step forward for human rights.

Banning a voluntary procedure that's already dying is a "considerable step forward for human rights"?

Well shit. Somebody give the governor the Nobel Peace Prize.

Firstly, I'm so curious about your sources that it's a "dying" practice (dignifying it with the term "procedure" seems rather stupid)- and as for "voluntary", it literally often isn't. Parents pack their kids off to go receive this kind of "treatment" and sign off on child abuse.

If you knew jack shit about this bill, which it's clear you don't, you'd know it bans licensed mental health practitioners from performing this abuse on minors. It doesn't stop adults with issues they don't know how to sort out from going off on some misguided quest to cure themselves.

[Hammer Britannia]

I couldn't give less of a shit

You apparently cared enough to make sure we all know just how little you care.

Welcome to NSG

[Kramanica]

1. "Conversion therapy" has been dying for some time now. 2. This is just virtue-signalling of the highest order. 3. It's completely meaningless.

1. Not fast enough.

Oh well.

2. Well, I guess if you use a meaningless buzzphrase to describe something, you can never be wrong, since it has whatever meaning you want it to have.

Sick burn.

3. Just like your post.

Oof.

[Grenartia]

Banning a voluntary procedure that's already dying is a "considerable step forward for human rights"?

Well shit. Somebody give the governor the Nobel Peace Prize.

Firstly, I'm so curious about your sources that it's a "dying" practice (dignifying it with the term "procedure" seems rather stupid)- and as for "voluntary", it literally often isn't. Parents pack their kids off to go receive this kind of "treatment" and sign off on child abuse.

If you knew jack shit about this bill, which it's clear you don't, you'd know it bans licensed mental health practitioners from performing this abuse on minors. It doesn't stop adults with issues they don't know how to sort out from going off on some misguided quest to cure themselves.

Also, I'd like to point out that even when done on adults, they're not giving truly informed consent, because they're being falsely advertised to.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Good.

[Senkaku]

1. Not fast enough.

Oh well.

2. Well, I guess if you use a meaningless buzzphrase to describe something, you can never be wrong, since it has whatever meaning you want it to have.

Sick burn.

3. Just like your post.

Oof.

We get it, you're torqued that the libs managed to get a win. You'll do a much better job edgily snarking about how meaningless it is if you actually inform yourself on the subject, though.

I couldn't give less of a shit

Thanks for at least caring enough to tell us you don't.

Gay conversion therapy makes as much sense as corrective rape.

The two are not always mutually exclusive lol

[San Marlindo]

This is just pandering for votes because LGBT conversion therapy receives so much disproportionate media attention. Anybody remember the '80s, when "cult deprogramming" of people from minority religious groups was all the rage? Nobody cared then.

Involuntary psychological reconditioning of any sort needs to be banned, not just conversion therapy. That includes Hare Krishnas and others who are involuntarily set up for conversion-therapy style reconditioning programs for their religious beliefs.

If Delaware was really interested in combating the specific injustice overall rather than just one incarnation of it, that's what it should've done.

This is just virtue-signalling of the highest order. It's completely meaningless.

Couldn't agree more. It's pandering for votes and media coverage, not out of genuine concern for the practices of involuntary reconditioning.

[Grenartia]

You apparently cared enough to make sure we all know just how little you care.

Welcome to NSG

If you don't give a shit, why'd you post here, other than to tick up your post count?

[Kramanica]

Oh well.


Sick burn.


Oof.

We get it, you're torqued that the libs managed to get a win. You'll do a much better job edgily snarking about how meaningless it is if you actually inform yourself on the subject, though.

I don't give a shit about "the libs". Christ, you people are so bloody self-obsessed you think everything's about you.

[Senkaku]

Firstly, I'm so curious about your sources that it's a "dying" practice (dignifying it with the term "procedure" seems rather stupid)- and as for "voluntary", it literally often isn't. Parents pack their kids off to go receive this kind of "treatment" and sign off on child abuse.

If you knew jack shit about this bill, which it's clear you don't, you'd know it bans licensed mental health practitioners from performing this abuse on minors. It doesn't stop adults with issues they don't know how to sort out from going off on some misguided quest to cure themselves.

Also, I'd like to point out that even when done on adults, they're not giving truly informed consent, because they're being falsely advertised to.

You can't really ban adults from being too stupid not to fall for things, or, to be fair, for being too confused and conflicted about their identities to go in a different direction, and I don't think you should, frankly- if someone's deep religious convictions or what have you spur them to do this kind of thing to themselves once they're of age, I'll feel sad for them, but it's their prerogative.

Minors are a different matter, however.

[The South Falls]

We get it, you're torqued that the libs managed to get a win. You'll do a much better job edgily snarking about how meaningless it is if you actually inform yourself on the subject, though.

I don't give a shit about "the libs". Christ, you people are so bloody self-obsessed you think everything's about you.

And we'll beleive you. Totally.

[Senkaku]

We get it, you're torqued that the libs managed to get a win. You'll do a much better job edgily snarking about how meaningless it is if you actually inform yourself on the subject, though.

I don't give a shit about "the libs". Christ, you people are so bloody self-obsessed you think everything's about you.

Ah yes, when I look through your posting history, I think, "now there's a guy who doesn't give a shit about politics"

Anyways, instead of dodging left and right, I suggest you go read up, and then come back to snark once you're informed enough to do it competently

[Kramanica]

Banning a voluntary procedure that's already dying is a "considerable step forward for human rights"?

Well shit. Somebody give the governor the Nobel Peace Prize.

Firstly, I'm so curious about your sources that it's a "dying" practice (dignifying it with the term "procedure" seems rather stupid)- and as for "voluntary", it literally often isn't. Parents pack their kids off to go receive this kind of "treatment" and sign off on child abuse.

If you knew jack shit about this bill, which it's clear you don't, you'd know it bans licensed mental health practitioners from performing this abuse on minors. It doesn't stop adults with issues they don't know how to sort out from going off on some misguided quest to cure themselves.

Hm, then I guess it isn't banned. Somebody rescinded that Nobel Peace Prize.