Dutch FM: ''Peaceful diverse societies are non-existent''

[Cedoria]

Definite failure in your sarcasmometer.



That is not what multiculturalism means.



THAT is what multiculturalism means.

Multiculturalism is founded on the assumption that all races are equal. But biologically, races are different.

You're right, humans are different to dolphins.

Now go take a biology class and learn why the crap you're spouting has nothing to do with actual science.

[Trumptonium1]

Deutsches Kaiserreich until Entente came along

1- The German Empire, particularly after the Scramble for Africa, was decidedly not an Ethnostate. A Colonial Empire can't be an ethnostate by definition.

imperial japan wasn't an ethnostate?

[Canadensia]

No, but every race has similar genetic codes that distinguish them from the other races. For example, with people of Irish/Scottish/English descent, the gene for red hair is common.

No it isn't. Red hair is present but rare all over the world.

Doubtful.

You'd be hard-pressed to find an East Asian or Amerindian with red hair. Their gene pool is almost universally dark hair.

[Valgora]

Definite failure in your sarcasmometer.



That is not what multiculturalism means.



THAT is what multiculturalism means.

Multiculturalism is founded on the assumption that all races are equal. But biologically, races are different.

First, it's the Human race. Just so you know.

Secondly, having more melanin or a lack of melanin doesn't make you any better than anyone else.

[Frievolk]

1- The German Empire, particularly after the Scramble for Africa, was decidedly not an Ethnostate. A Colonial Empire can't be an ethnostate by definition.

imperial japan wasn't an ethnostate?

I stand corrected. I guess I should've defined colonial empire first.

[Valentine Z]

Ahh, drat. And I am a huge fan of the Netherlands and the Dutch culture. Makes me wonder what most of them will think of me in return. With that said, I still like the Dutch, of course! One statement indeed does not determine the thought of the entire nation and its populace, so yeah, there's that.

One thing that got me was the mention of Singapore. Yeah... you still have xenophobic people here and there, but trust me, they are quite a minority. After living here for 12 years (and counting), we have been really accepting of one another, and it's not unusual to see differnt racial groups hanging out together. With that said, the aformentioned xenophobia probably came from the statement that "foreigners are taking our businesses," AKA "they took our job!" I would just like to think of this as the side effect of the increasing population, standard of living, and demands. Unemployment can hit both the citizens and non-citizens.

Despite all that, I'm very certain when I say that not allowing the migration of the poor might be a misunderstanding; AFAIK, there isn't a case where we turn down people for being too poor; just that the demands and costs are too high over here.

My $0,02.

First, it's the Human race. Just so you know.

Secondly, having more melanin or a lack of melanin doesn't make you any better than anyone else.

Except maybe better protection from the Sun, but that's it, really. Love everyone regardless of skin color, is what I'm saying and agreeing with you.

[Canadensia]

imperial japan wasn't an ethnostate?

I stand corrected. I guess I should've defined colonial empire first.

Frankly, even in regards to colonial empires, the Germans pretty much count since non-Germans typically weren't even considered citizens (especially blacks in the colonies). Hell, they outright tried to genocide some of them in Namibia.

[Phoenicaea]

..the gene pool, and so? what is the conclusion and the logic rope whch goes through.

visegrad..is a way of referring to.. it is not even a minor agreement between some govts, low cooked daily politics. not a foundation of a trans-national pact. what is it.

i m the first to have difficulties in living toghether with some different etniticties immigrants, nevertheless i refuse these mewolf speacking.

i wish not to live among unwanted immigrats, a part the fact i will have to because it will happen anyway, still these are not decent arguments.

[Torrocca]

What a crock of shite. Someone needs to ax that guy from his gov't position.

Name one total ethno state that managed to survive for a long time.

Germany lasted quite a while, until the Jews overpopulated their country. Ethno-states are natural and existed at the beginning of human civilization.

DA JOOOOOOOOOz RUIN EVERYTHING!!1!

[Trumptonium1]

..the gene pool, and so? what is the conclusion and the logic rope whch goes through.

visegrad..is a way of referring to.. it is not even a minor agreement between some govts, low cooked daily politics. not a foundation of a trans-national pact. what is it.

i m the first to have difficulties in living toghether with some different etniticties immigrants, nevertheless i refuse these mewolf speacking.

i wish not to live among unwanted immigrats, a part the fact i will have to because it will happen anyway, still these are not decent arguments.

visegrad is very much a major alliance, it is not a minor agreement. all four of the countries in it take it seriously, and they meet with each other more often than the eu meets with itself. they make up multilateral agreements and have their own regulations, including a mutual defence alliance and a battlegroup within the nato framework. moreover they started meeting at lower levels, not just head of government + finance + foreign affairs. there's now summits between defence ministers and health ministers as well.

you are completely wrong

plus it is just simpler to mention all 4 under one name, if anything. nobody is going to mention 28 when it can be simply summarised under 'eu'

[Auze]

Even japan and Germany have different cultures as part of their nation.(such as Ryukuans and Bavarians)

[The South Falls]

The United States should be a gigantic hellhole of anarchy. If that ideology is right.

You mean it isn't ?

I mean, if Switzerland is dead, then we should be a fallout state.

[The South Falls]

By the way, imperial Japan remained peaceful because of autocracy and a forced caste system.

[Ifreann]

No it isn't. Red hair is present but rare all over the world.

Doubtful.

You'd be hard-pressed to find an East Asian or Amerindian with red hair. Their gene pool is almost universally dark hair.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair# ... stribution

[Heloin]

1- The German Empire, particularly after the Scramble for Africa, was decidedly not an Ethnostate. A Colonial Empire can't be an ethnostate by definition.

imperial japan wasn't an ethnostate?

Do you mean the Tokugawa shogunate? Because Imperial Japan was definitely not an ethnostate. Even during the Tokugawa shogunate you had the Ainu along with Chinese and Korean groups.

By the way, imperial Japan remained peaceful because of autocracy and a forced caste system.

Also this.

[Canadensia]

Even japan and Germany have different cultures as part of their nation.(such as Ryukuans and Bavarians)

In the case of the Ryukuans, they are, along with the Ainu of Hokaido, a historically persecuted demographic that has been subject to multiple attempts at assimilation with varying effects. Japan is probably the most assimilative country in the world, with minimal tolerance for minority cultures. Claiming it is multicultural in any substantive sense is ridiculous.

As for Bavarians, they along with the Swabians, Prussians, Saxons and many other Central Germanic cultures make up the broader German national identity. While that is multicultural to a degree, it is similar moreso to the Chinese cultural sense (that is to say many regional cultures, but all part of the broader Chinese cultural group, to the exclusion of all others) than it is to what people generally consider real multiculturalism (that is to say not having an actual policy in regards to a state-enforced dominant culture). After all, it's not like the German Empire treated the Poles, Danes and other non-German minorities particularly well under its rule. Hell, a pretty substantial number of Poles were outright uprooted and had their land seized in most areas to the West of the Oder.

[Dogmeat]

There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures

and the Dutch.

[Canadensia]

Doubtful.

You'd be hard-pressed to find an East Asian or Amerindian with red hair. Their gene pool is almost universally dark hair.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair# ... stribution
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The boy's an Uyghur (which isn't East Asian) and the bottom picture is of Melanesians.

Neither of which are Amerindians or East Asians. You just looked up "red hair" on Wikipedia, clicked the "Asia" tab, saw a kid with red hair that looked passably Oriental, assumed this proves your point, posted it, and didn't even bother looking into the topic further than that. I'm inclined to say you don't actually know what you're talking about.

[Federal Syndicalist States]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair# ... stribution
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The boy's an Uyghur (which isn't East Asian) and the bottom picture is of Melanesians.

Neither of which are Amerindians or East Asians. You just looked up "red hair" on Wikipedia, clicked the "Asia" tab, saw a kid with red hair that looked passably Oriental, assumed this proves your point, posted it, and didn't even bother looking into the topic further than that. I'm inclined to say you don't actually know what you're talking about.

The Uyghurs (/ˈwiːɡʊərz/,[12] /uːiˈɡʊərz/)[13][14] or Uygurs (as the standard romanisation in Chinese GB 3304-1991) are a Turkic ethnic group who live in East and Central Asia. Today, Uyghurs live primarily in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of the People’s Republic of China, where they are one of 55 officially recognized ethnic minorities. Uyghurs primarily practice Islam. Like many populations of Central Eurasia, they are genetically related to both Caucasoid and East Asian populations.

[His Excellence]

I'm a cashier in an area with a pretty even ratio of black people and white people. I treat every person who comes into my store with politeness and respect, and they almost always return it.

Of course, this didn't stop one particular black woman from going off on me for no reason, making up claims that I "follow [her] up and down the store" (I can barely get away from the register to do recovery, and when I do, I avoid aisles anyone's in because of my anxiety, so she couldn't be farther from the truth), and trying to belittle me like I'm some kind of racist stalker, until her husband who's literally three times my size comes in yelling and threatening to kick the shit out of me.

But that's one deranged couple (who I suppose, kind of have the excuse of certainly having experiences with white shopkeepers who actually are racist, even if it's total bullshit that they took it out on me) among scores of otherwise civil customers who happen to have a similar skin color. I've had some incredibly ignorant white customers as well. Not quite "unwarranted threats of violence," but obnoxious all the same, and that applies to them as well; their actions don't reflect on their entire race.


Every race has its share of pricks, and they're the ones causing racial strife. It's not caused by people being a different race, it's caused by individuals using the wrongdoings of differently colored people to """justify""" treating strangers like shit for daring to have a similar skin color. It's caused by the media and politicians with a hard on for pushing racial rhetoric. It's caused every time someone insists that large demographics should be punished for the actions of a few people.

[Ifreann]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair# ... stribution
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The boy's an Uyghur (which isn't East Asian) and the bottom picture is of Melanesians.

Neither of which are Amerindians or East Asians. You just looked up "red hair" on Wikipedia, clicked the "Asia" tab,

The Geographic distribution tab. The link is right there.

saw a kid with red hair that looked passably Oriental, assumed this proves your point, posted it, and didn't even bother looking into the topic further than that. I'm inclined to say you don't actually know what you're talking about.

I read the captions, so I know where those people are from. That's how I know that the Uyghur child is a girl, so clearly this I know better what I'm talking about than you. I didn't think you wanted specifically red heads from those groups, I assumed you'd be satisfied with red heads from groups people don't usually associate with red hair.

But if that's what you want then feel free to Google it and interrogate the ancestry of all the people who pop up.

[Canadensia]

The boy's an Uyghur (which isn't East Asian) and the bottom picture is of Melanesians.

Neither of which are Amerindians or East Asians. You just looked up "red hair" on Wikipedia, clicked the "Asia" tab, saw a kid with red hair that looked passably Oriental, assumed this proves your point, posted it, and didn't even bother looking into the topic further than that. I'm inclined to say you don't actually know what you're talking about.

The Uyghurs (/ˈwiːɡʊərz/,[12] /uːiˈɡʊərz/)[13][14] or Uygurs (as the standard romanisation in Chinese GB 3304-1991) are a Turkic ethnic group who live in East and Central Asia. Today, Uyghurs live primarily in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of the People’s Republic of China, where they are one of 55 officially recognized ethnic minorities. Uyghurs primarily practice Islam. Like many populations of Central Eurasia, they are genetically related to both Caucasoid and East Asian populations.

The key word being: genetically related

That isn't at all the same thing as being in the same gene group.

[Federal Syndicalist States]

The Uyghurs (/ˈwiːɡʊərz/,[12] /uːiˈɡʊərz/)[13][14] or Uygurs (as the standard romanisation in Chinese GB 3304-1991) are a Turkic ethnic group who live in East and Central Asia. Today, Uyghurs live primarily in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of the People’s Republic of China, where they are one of 55 officially recognized ethnic minorities. Uyghurs primarily practice Islam. Like many populations of Central Eurasia, they are genetically related to both Caucasoid and East Asian populations.

The key word being: genetically related

That isn't at all the same thing as being in the same gene group.

I mean it's not as if there's a 100% east asian gene group, spreaded around, made them east asian and if you don't have it you're disqualified from being one.

[Canadensia]

The boy's an Uyghur (which isn't East Asian) and the bottom picture is of Melanesians.

Neither of which are Amerindians or East Asians. You just looked up "red hair" on Wikipedia, clicked the "Asia" tab,

The Geographic distribution tab. The link is right there.

Mate, them living in Xinjiang makes them about as genetically East Asian as me living in North America makes be genetically Amerindian.

I read the captions, so I know where those people are from. That's how I know that the Uyghur child is a girl, so clearly this I know better what I'm talking about than you. I didn't think you wanted specifically red heads from those groups, I assumed you'd be satisfied with red heads from groups people don't usually associate with red hair.

But if that's what you want then feel free to Google it and interrogate the ancestry of all the people who pop up.

Woopidy doo, I mistook her gender.

You, on the other hand, don't know what an Uyghur is. You made the claim that red hair is present everywhere. Either back up your claim, or recant it.

[Canadensia]

The key word being: genetically related

That isn't at all the same thing as being in the same gene group.

I mean it's not as if there's a 100% east asian gene group, spreaded around, made them east asian and if you don't have it you're disqualified from being one.

Mate, Uyghurs are Central Asian. It's not the same thing.

Find me a genuine bonified red-haired East Asian from the Orient, or a red-haired aboriginal from the Americas, and I'll shut up. Otherwise, don't back up the arguments of people who obviously don't know what they're talking about.