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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:32 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:More Republican votes draw a Democrat to the right. See West Virginia.

Can we trade Manchin for Murkowski?

Don't know. Electorally speaking, the Democrats would have to field a more right-wing candidate in West Virginia to win, and the Republicans would have to employ a left win candidate in Alaska to win. There is no electoral room to the left of Manchin and the right of Murkowski.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:37 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No its not


Please explain why voting for anyone other than *insert left wing candidate* in my state of NJ matters.


Hugin's giving a pretty good show. Wouldn't be too terribly shocked (or upset) if he won.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:38 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:I like. And if I dont like a candidate AT ALL, I could just not put them down? Maybe I only want to vote for one candidate and not the others?

Then you can't complain about the choices or who won.


Why not?
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Postby Great Franconia and Verana » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:44 pm

Valrifell wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Please explain why voting for anyone other than *insert left wing candidate* in my state of NJ matters.


Hugin's giving a pretty good show. Wouldn't be too terribly shocked (or upset) if he won.

Menendez should never have been allowed to run again after the trial.

Even with the charges dropped, he is political poison. If he does win, it is because of the partisan lean of the state.

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Postby Diopolis » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:48 pm

I honestly can't wait for early voting so I can turnout for Ted Cruz.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:57 pm

Great Franconia and Verana wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Hugin's giving a pretty good show. Wouldn't be too terribly shocked (or upset) if he won.

Menendez should never have been allowed to run again after the trial.

Even with the charges dropped, he is political poison. If he does win, it is because of the partisan lean of the state.


Agree 100%
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:12 pm

Telconi wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Then you can't complain about the choices or who won.


Why not?

Because that's who ran in the primary and that's who the voters selected. If you dont your like your choices and you think you can do better run yourself

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:41 pm

I know Facebook and other social media is not not a good indication of support but ive seen a lot of comments on Andrew Cuomo's facebook promoting Larry Sharpe the Libertarian candidate. I wonder how much of it is genuine support and how much is fake profiles or Russian bots.

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Postby Shrillland » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:47 pm

Great Franconia and Verana wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Hugin's giving a pretty good show. Wouldn't be too terribly shocked (or upset) if he won.

Menendez should never have been allowed to run again after the trial.

Even with the charges dropped, he is political poison. If he does win, it is because of the partisan lean of the state.


If it wasn't for the Trump factor, Menendez would've easily lost this year, I truly believe that.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:52 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:Can we trade Manchin for Murkowski?

Don't know. Electorally speaking, the Democrats would have to field a more right-wing candidate in West Virginia to win, and the Republicans would have to employ a left win candidate in Alaska to win. There is no electoral room to the left of Manchin and the right of Murkowski.


There's plenty of room for someone to the right of Murkowski. At least from the way a buddy of mine in Alaska described it the only reason she won is because her dad was sort of a household political name in the state. It's not impossible she gets booted out eventually.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:26 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Don't know. Electorally speaking, the Democrats would have to field a more right-wing candidate in West Virginia to win, and the Republicans would have to employ a left win candidate in Alaska to win. There is no electoral room to the left of Manchin and the right of Murkowski.


There's plenty of room for someone to the right of Murkowski. At least from the way a buddy of mine in Alaska described it the only reason she won is because her dad was sort of a household political name in the state. It's not impossible she gets booted out eventually.

From what ive heard Alaska has been moving leftward. Someone whose far right would have a difficult time getting elected there. Its a relatively moderate state.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:35 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
There's plenty of room for someone to the right of Murkowski. At least from the way a buddy of mine in Alaska described it the only reason she won is because her dad was sort of a household political name in the state. It's not impossible she gets booted out eventually.

From what ive heard Alaska has been moving leftward. Someone whose far right would have a difficult time getting elected there. Its a relatively moderate state.


They won't go that far to the left. The state's economy suffers from such a severe case of Dutch Disease that even the unions are opposing Measure 1 next month because who cares about salmon? They won't willingly get rid of their annual stipend and replace it with a tax, and they won't destroy their economy for environmental concerns.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:37 pm

Shrillland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:From what ive heard Alaska has been moving leftward. Someone whose far right would have a difficult time getting elected there. Its a relatively moderate state.


They won't go that far to the left. The state's economy suffers from such a severe case of Dutch Disease that even the unions are opposing Measure 1 next month because who cares about salmon? They won't willingly get rid of their annual stipend and replace it with a tax, and they won't destroy their economy for environmental concerns.

True but the state is changing.

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:37 pm

San Lumen wrote:I know Facebook and other social media is not not a good indication of support but ive seen a lot of comments on Andrew Cuomo's facebook promoting Larry Sharpe the Libertarian candidate. I wonder how much of it is genuine support and how much is fake profiles or Russian bots.


Ah yes, Russian bots, the Democrat excuse for "my opponent has a different political opinion".

Never change, Lumen.

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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:39 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Why not?

Because that's who ran in the primary and that's who the voters selected. If you dont your like your choices and you think you can do better run yourself


I have no desire to run myself.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:42 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Because that's who ran in the primary and that's who the voters selected. If you dont your like your choices and you think you can do better run yourself


I have no desire to run myself.


At this point, I would advise just ignoring the same old call-and-repeat exercise. Just because Lumen has a penchant for repeating the same points doesn't mean we have to respond in kind....and yes, I am fully aware of how repetitive I sound.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:42 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I know Facebook and other social media is not not a good indication of support but ive seen a lot of comments on Andrew Cuomo's facebook promoting Larry Sharpe the Libertarian candidate. I wonder how much of it is genuine support and how much is fake profiles or Russian bots.


Ah yes, Russian bots, the Democrat excuse for "my opponent has a different political opinion".

Never change, Lumen.


Sharpe is only getting about two percent in the polls so it does make one wonder

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Postby Shrillland » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:44 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Ah yes, Russian bots, the Democrat excuse for "my opponent has a different political opinion".

Never change, Lumen.


Sharpe is only getting about two percent in the polls so it does make one wonder


You don't know Libertarians that well. They may be a small number, but they can be very vocal on social media.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:45 pm

Shrillland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Sharpe is only getting about two percent in the polls so it does make one wonder


You don't know Libertarians that well. They may be a small number, but they can be very vocal on social media.

Good to know. A friend of mine thinks Sharpe has a chance to win and that the polls are biased and unscientific.

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Postby Uxupox » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:45 pm

Shrillland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Sharpe is only getting about two percent in the polls so it does make one wonder


You don't know Libertarians that well. They may be a small number, but they can be very vocal on social media.


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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:02 pm

Oldenfranck wrote:

Yeah this could potentially be problematic.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/1 ... nd-switch/

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:10 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:Can we trade Manchin for Murkowski?

Don't know. Electorally speaking, the Democrats would have to field a more right-wing candidate in West Virginia to win, and the Republicans would have to employ a left win candidate in Alaska to win. There is no electoral room to the left of Manchin and the right of Murkowski.

Left wing in Alaska? Um...
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Ah yes, Russian bots, the Democrat excuse for "my opponent has a different political opinion".

Never change, Lumen.


Sharpe is only getting about two percent in the polls so it does make one wonder


Considering that I have lost all faith in polls after they blatantly dropped the ball about Donald Trump's chances of victory (and more locally, Quebec polls predicting a minority government for the CAQ...only for them to become a sizeable majority), it DOES make me wonder.

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Postby Shofercia » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:15 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:I know a couple women who never voted; who are registered now. November will be interesting.....


Indeed it will. It'd be fascinating to see a major change, but I doubt that'll happen.


Len Hyet wrote:That article isn't exactly convincing when it's being run right next to a different opinion piece saying Democrats have unleashed a red wave of Brett Kavanaugh-believing women voters.

They're both opinion pieces written by people with a vested interest in their opinion being right. Neither take the time to actually analyze polling data, just giving a brief nod to it and claiming it supports their position.

0/10 would not use an opinion piece to predict outcomes


I'm not. I predicted 54-44-2 for the Senate back in August, and I'm sticking by that. I just found it funny that USA Today is going with opinion pieces to try and figure out the election results.


Shrillland wrote:Depends where they are. A major state, Florida may have their turnout somewhat upended now that Michael's come, seen, and leveled the Panhandle, just as Sandy caused turnout to plummet in New York and New Jersey.


True, but Florida has a Trumper and a Berner going head to head. It's finally interesting to watch Florida for something other than laughter and electoral confusion :P
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