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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:41 pm

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If you knew how hurricanes work you wouldn't argue that.


Gauth knows how hurricanes work, I'm sure. They need warmer water, and the Gulf's a practical hot tub at the best of times.



That's why the warmer the water gets the stronger the hurricane is.
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Northern Davincia wrote:1. Socialist is an extremely bad word for those who know anything about economics. Also, please cite that conservatives are calling the cops on blacks. Yes, the left does want to disarm and censor me. That isn't fear mongering.
2. I'll just pretend you've never heard of the Federal Reserve.



1. No it's not. Cited were liberals did it. And no they dont.

2. Do you even know what that does and what caused the 2008 crash? Much less what Deregulation is? Doesn't sound like you do

1. Apparently you're unable to find examples of conservatives sending cops after black people. Modern universities are hotbeds of censorship, and it's not hard to find Democrats pushing for more extreme methods of gun control.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chrisreev ... n-n2499722
2. https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardsal ... 45e9761d93
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Postby Shrillland » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:47 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
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1. No it's not. Cited were liberals did it. And no they dont.

2. Do you even know what that does and what caused the 2008 crash? Much less what Deregulation is? Doesn't sound like you do

1. Apparently you're unable to find examples of conservatives sending cops after black people. Modern universities are hotbeds of censorship, and it's not hard to find Democrats pushing for more extreme methods of gun control.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chrisreev ... n-n2499722
2. https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardsal ... 45e9761d93


Personally, I would support moderate gun control methods under normal circumstances, but we're not in those at the moment.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:49 pm

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Northern Davincia wrote:1. Apparently you're unable to find examples of conservatives sending cops after black people. Modern universities are hotbeds of censorship, and it's not hard to find Democrats pushing for more extreme methods of gun control.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chrisreev ... n-n2499722
2. https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardsal ... 45e9761d93


Personally, I would support moderate gun control methods under normal circumstances, but we're not in those at the moment.

I see greater potential in the government handing out firearms for free to all citizens, but that's just me.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:51 pm

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1. No it's not. Cited were liberals did it. And no they dont.

2. Do you even know what that does and what caused the 2008 crash? Much less what Deregulation is? Doesn't sound like you do

1. Apparently you're unable to find examples of conservatives sending cops after black people. Modern universities are hotbeds of censorship, and it's not hard to find Democrats pushing for more extreme methods of gun control.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chrisreev ... n-n2499722
2. https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardsal ... 45e9761d93



1. Just what I thought, you got nothing. And 1 Democrat, oh the horror. You cant defend your lines. This one is over.

2. That is a very narrow view of it and ignores the decades of Deregulation that caused it l.


You got nothing and refuse to defend yourself. This is over.


Fyi

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I could find more easily, unlike you. But I am done with you.
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Postby The Shining Purple Light » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:52 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:>directing this at a man who wants to abolish the EPA

"I'm not in a hurricane zone so it's not my problem."

On the subject of hurricanes my state is on life support at the moment because of two hurricane's in a row s e n d h e l p

Though this may help flip the Ninth into McCready's favor.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:53 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Personally, I would support moderate gun control methods under normal circumstances, but we're not in those at the moment.

I see greater potential in the government handing out firearms for free to all citizens, but that's just me.




Yeah, lets throw all gun shops out of business and give weapons to criminals. :roll:
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:55 pm

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Shrillland wrote:
Personally, I would support moderate gun control methods under normal circumstances, but we're not in those at the moment.

I see greater potential in the government handing out firearms for free to all citizens, but that's just me.

Oh hey, someone who thinks The Purge is a documentary.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:55 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:"I'm not in a hurricane zone so it's not my problem."

On the subject of hurricanes my state is on life support at the moment because of two hurricane's in a row s e n d h e l p

Though this may help flip the Ninth into McCready's favor.



I feel sorry for some of those states, Florida most of all.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:03 pm

Mystic Warriors wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:1. Apparently you're unable to find examples of conservatives sending cops after black people. Modern universities are hotbeds of censorship, and it's not hard to find Democrats pushing for more extreme methods of gun control.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chrisreev ... n-n2499722
2. https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardsal ... 45e9761d93



1. Just what I thought, you got nothing. And 1 Democrat, oh the horror. You cant defend your lines. This one is over.

2. That is a very narrow view of it and ignores the decades of Deregulation that caused it l.


You got nothing and refuse to defend yourself. This is over.


Fyi

http://www.theroot.com/white-hobby-lobb ... 072557/amp


I could find more easily, unlike you. But I am done with you.

1. Got nothing on what? I wasn't trying to prove Democrats were weaponizing cops. However, the Dem's record on guns is abysmal.
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Postby The Shining Purple Light » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:03 pm

Mystic Warriors wrote:
The Shining Purple Light wrote:On the subject of hurricanes my state is on life support at the moment because of two hurricane's in a row s e n d h e l p

Though this may help flip the Ninth into McCready's favor.



I feel sorry for some of those states, Florida most of all.

Florida got hit hard with Michael.

North Carolina suffered 20$ billion in damages from Florence, so far Washington has given us 1.1$ billion while the State Government is planning on granting 1.5$ billion, both will likely (and hopefully) increase.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:07 pm

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Northern Davincia wrote:I see greater potential in the government handing out firearms for free to all citizens, but that's just me.




Yeah, lets throw all gun shops out of business and give weapons to criminals. :roll:

Ah, but I also see the greatest potential in deregulating firearm sales to an extreme degree. The gun shops will thank me.
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Postby Loben » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:09 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
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Yeah, lets throw all gun shops out of business and give weapons to criminals. :roll:

Ah, but I also see the greatest potential in deregulating firearm sales to an extreme degree. The gun shops will thank me.


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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:11 pm

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Northern Davincia wrote:Ah, but I also see the greatest potential in deregulating firearm sales to an extreme degree. The gun shops will thank me.


can i buy a M1 Abrams?

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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:16 pm

The Shining Purple Light wrote:
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I feel sorry for some of those states, Florida most of all.

Florida got hit hard with Michael.

North Carolina suffered 20$ billion in damages from Florence, so far Washington has given us 1.1$ billion while the State Government is planning on granting 1.5$ billion, both will likely (and hopefully) increase.



Sadly it will get worse. Just gives me more reason to support the Democrats and go left wing. At least they acknowledge the problem.
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Postby Olerand » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:07 am

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Olerand wrote:I've repeatedly heard otherwise. Where were you for the past few months of the Democratic wave?

And at this point, taking in the historical precedent, the unpopular president, the uniquely terrible administration that would have no chance in any other developed country (and even gerrymandering and the unfavorable senate map), the question is, why aren't Democrats headed for a wave?

Either something is wrong in the Democratic Party, or America. Or both.


Maybe for some, but I always knew what a net gain of 30 seats meant, and looking at the district-by-district numbers, I've known that the most likely scenario is 219-224 for the Dems if all goes well. I've also known that the best scenario for the Senate was 50-50...I never expected us to take it, nor did most of the people here.

At least for the House, I've heard numerous times that there is a blue wave coming.

This poses the question, if the Democrats can't win now... When can they?

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Olerand wrote:No, not really. Only one person has brought up a wall.



:rofl:

Keep running into that wall.

As always, only one person is referencing a wall.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:24 am

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Maybe for some, but I always knew what a net gain of 30 seats meant, and looking at the district-by-district numbers, I've known that the most likely scenario is 219-224 for the Dems if all goes well. I've also known that the best scenario for the Senate was 50-50...I never expected us to take it, nor did most of the people here.

At least for the House, I've heard numerous times that there is a blue wave coming.

This poses the question, if the Democrats can't win now... When can they?

Mystic Warriors wrote:

:rofl:

Keep running into that wall.

As always, only one person is referencing a wall.



1. The polls show a strong blue turnout. Why are you doubting this?

2. Still not getting it. Lol

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Think about it, what does that phrase mean?
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Postby Olerand » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:29 am

Mystic Warriors wrote:
Olerand wrote:At least for the House, I've heard numerous times that there is a blue wave coming.

This poses the question, if the Democrats can't win now... When can they?


As always, only one person is referencing a wall.



1. The polls show a strong blue turnout. Why are you doubting this?

2. Still not getting it. Lol

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Think about it, what does that phrase mean?

But they don't, do they? The Democrats are headed, by everyone's admission on this thread so far, to a net loss in the Senate and a slim majority in the House. If that's a strong blue turnout, are the Democrats ever going to take back Congress? Fully knowing that the Senate map is not favorable, but the House is the same as its going to be.

Again, only one person this thread has ever even mentioned a wall.
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:23 am

Olerand wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:

1. The polls show a strong blue turnout. Why are you doubting this?

2. Still not getting it. Lol

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Think about it, what does that phrase mean?

But they don't, do they? The Democrats are headed, by everyone's admission on this thread so far, to a net loss in the Senate and a slim majority in the House. If that's a strong blue turnout, are the Democrats ever going to take back Congress? Fully knowing that the Senate map is not favorable, but the House is the same as its going to be.

Again, only one person this thread has ever even mentioned a wall.



The answer is, actually, yes. There are five states from throughout the spectrum that are, this year, either considering or have already created independent commissions or other non-partisan bodies for redistricting(Colorado, Missouri, Michigan, Ohio, and Utah), and they have bipartisan support in every state that's putting them forward. This will mean fairer maps for both sides in the House once more states implement them.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:27 am

Shrillland wrote:
Olerand wrote:But they don't, do they? The Democrats are headed, by everyone's admission on this thread so far, to a net loss in the Senate and a slim majority in the House. If that's a strong blue turnout, are the Democrats ever going to take back Congress? Fully knowing that the Senate map is not favorable, but the House is the same as its going to be.

Again, only one person this thread has ever even mentioned a wall.



The answer is, actually, yes. There are five states from throughout the spectrum that are, this year, either considering or have already created independent commissions or other non-partisan bodies for redistricting(Colorado, Missouri, Michigan, Ohio, and Utah), and they have bipartisan support in every state that's putting them forward. This will mean fairer maps for both sides in the House once more states implement them.



Are you sure about that? The GOP only backs it when it benefits them.
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Postby Olerand » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:31 am

Shrillland wrote:
Olerand wrote:But they don't, do they? The Democrats are headed, by everyone's admission on this thread so far, to a net loss in the Senate and a slim majority in the House. If that's a strong blue turnout, are the Democrats ever going to take back Congress? Fully knowing that the Senate map is not favorable, but the House is the same as its going to be.

Again, only one person this thread has ever even mentioned a wall.



The answer is, actually, yes. There are five states from throughout the spectrum that are, this year, either considering or have already created independent commissions or other non-partisan bodies for redistricting(Colorado, Missouri, Michigan, Ohio, and Utah), and they have bipartisan support in every state that's putting them forward. This will mean fairer maps for both sides in the House once more states implement them.

I've seen some of those proposals. Though they are all a step in the right direction, some of them have a vague process and vague wording. Perhaps this will lead to a significant shift, but I'm not entirely hopeful. If there was no way to control the process, the party in power (mostly Republicans) would have never have agreed to it, that's just bad politics.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:32 am

Everytime I come to look at this thread, I see lefty people literally shaking in their boots and calling the Republicans fascists and all this other bs. Jesus Christ. What is wrong with you people? You do understand that Republicans are by no means even CLOSE to Fascism right? Especially not to Nazism? I mean, do you even understand what these words mean now or what these people did in their politics? Or are these just buzzwords you're using because you literally hate your ideological opponents?

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I'm really sick of all this Partisan crap. It helps no one and hurts everything. It's downright pathetic to watch what I know are intelligent and well meaning people take up this moralistic crusade of fear mongering against their ideological opponents Who are really not that different from the "left". Bloody hell.

This is the same crap I had to deal with as a Southerner during Obama's presidency. Everyone flipping out at the Commie Muslim from Kenya saying he's destroying America and a threat to us all. It's pathetic. Just bloody pathetic.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:36 am

I think the GOP is going to come out of this election with more Senate seats after everything I've seen. TN seems like a pretty solid lock for the GOP, Heitkamp is done, Donnelly could win but I'm leaning Republican for that seat, Florida and Nevada likewise could go either way. Barring a true miracle I think the GOP is gonna be fine for the Senate.

I don't follow the House too much so idk what to expect there though.
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Postby Olerand » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:36 am

Thuzbekistan wrote:Everytime I come to look at this thread, I see lefty people literally shaking in their boots and calling the Republicans fascists and all this other bs. Jesus Christ. What is wrong with you people? You do understand that Republicans are by no means even CLOSE to Fascism right? Especially not to Nazism? I mean, do you even understand what these words mean now or what these people did in their politics? Or are these just buzzwords you're using because you literally hate your ideological opponents?

"The Republicans are becoming more and more fascist"- San Lumen

"it scares me how far right the country is going." - Mystic

How far right are we going? We are deregulating the economy, sure and there are positives and negatives to protectionist actions on trade, but how far right are we REALLY going? We are pushing to become less authoritarian by reducing restrictions to what is considered constitutional rights and massive, sometimes violent protests have been allowed even on Trump's inauguration.

I'm really sick of all this Partisan crap. It helps no one and hurts everything. It's downright pathetic to watch what I know are intelligent and well meaning people take up this moralistic crusade of fear mongering against their ideological opponents Who are really not that different from the "left". Bloody hell.

This is the same crap I had to deal with as a Southerner during Obama's presidency. Everyone flipping out at the Commie Muslim from Kenya saying he's destroying America and a threat to us all. It's pathetic. Just bloody pathetic.

Being far-right isn't the same as being fascist. Many movements exist on the far-right. The Republican Party is, factually, far-right, by any other developed country's standards.

It isn't fascist though, true, it doesn't meet one of fascism's most important criteria, State-business corporatism. The Republican Party, ever since Reagan, who first pushed it to the far-right, is still committed to oligarchy.
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