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San Lumen wrote:Excuse me? I went college with someone who was raised by a gay couple and he turned out just fine. They are the only family he's ever known.


On the surface, he might have "turned out fine". You can not look into their brain and see the subtle psychic disorders they are suffering from due to a traumatizing childhood. Being different (or having a different family form) is always traumatizing.

Not having parents is a little more traumatizing than gay parents.
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San Lumen wrote:Excuse me? I went college with someone who was raised by a gay couple and he turned out just fine. They are the only family he's ever known.


On the surface, he might have "turned out fine". You can not look into their brain and see the subtle psychic disorders they are suffering from due to a traumatizing childhood. Being different (or having a different family form) is always traumatizing.

Belonging to a gay family is traumatizing? I want sources.
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On the surface, he might have "turned out fine". You can not look into their brain and see the subtle psychic disorders they are suffering from due to a traumatizing childhood. Being different (or having a different family form) is always traumatizing.

Belonging to a gay family is traumatizing? I want sources.

If there were any bona fide sources that definitively proved that having gay parents is "traumatizing" then I would have seen them by now. Medwedian Democratic Federation is talking nonsense.
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Postby Tobleste » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:21 pm

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Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.


I agree, Trump supporters (who generally, tend to be racist, xenophobic, and unwilling to provide for the poor) shouldn't be raising children.

That's who you're referring to, right?


I (vaguely) remember something similar to that happening in the UK instead it was a family that supported the eurosceptic UKIP and were denied a chance at adopting a kid with Polish heritage. Iirc, there was some controversy about it and the adoption eventually went ahead.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:50 pm

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San Lumen wrote:Excuse me? I went college with someone who was raised by a gay couple and he turned out just fine. They are the only family he's ever known.


On the surface, he might have "turned out fine". You can not look into their brain and see the subtle psychic disorders they are suffering from due to a traumatizing childhood. Being different (or having a different family form) is always traumatizing.

Oh, what psychic abilities do they have? Can I have some?
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:03 pm

Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Excuse me? I went college with someone who was raised by a gay couple and he turned out just fine. They are the only family he's ever known.


On the surface, he might have "turned out fine". You can not look into their brain and see the subtle psychic disorders they are suffering from due to a traumatizing childhood. Being different (or having a different family form) is always traumatizing.


Hes not suffering from any mental disorder. How dare you suggest he had traumatizing childhood. There is absolutely no proof of any harm to the child from having gay parents
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Postby Olthar » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:10 pm

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San Lumen wrote:Excuse me? I went college with someone who was raised by a gay couple and he turned out just fine. They are the only family he's ever known.


On the surface, he might have "turned out fine". You can not look into their brain and see the subtle psychic disorders they are suffering from due to a traumatizing childhood. Being different (or having a different family form) is always traumatizing.

Psychic disorders? You mean like telekinesis or something? Damn, I wish I had gay parents. I could have been a superhero.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:24 pm

Olthar wrote:
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On the surface, he might have "turned out fine". You can not look into their brain and see the subtle psychic disorders they are suffering from due to a traumatizing childhood. Being different (or having a different family form) is always traumatizing.

Psychic disorders? You mean like telekinesis or something? Damn, I wish I had gay parents. I could have been a superhero.

Same here. I dream of having telekinesis.

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Postby Katganistan » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:29 pm

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The New California Republic wrote:You seem to be assuming that the child will see sex acts between the parents...?? :?



I assume that a child needs both a healthy mother figure and a healthy father figure, not two mother or father figures. And no, don't bring up the "Gender is a social constuct" sh*t. There are two genders. Women are mothers, and men are fathers. Every child should have a mother and a father.

There are many more than two genders, and children should have parents, full stop. They should not be stuck in foster care until they are kicked out at 18.

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Postby Grenartia » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:19 pm

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The New California Republic wrote:You seem to be assuming that the child will see sex acts between the parents...?? :?



I assume that a child needs both a healthy mother figure and a healthy father figure, not two mother or father figures. And no, don't bring up the "Gender is a social constuct" sh*t. There are two genders. Women are mothers, and men are fathers. Every child should have a mother and a father.


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Postby The V O I D » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:41 am

Parents are parents regardless of their biological sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, current relationship status (no partners? one? two? who gives a flying fuck?).

Everyone who has no violent criminal record (or active psychological disorder that would prevent them from caring for the child in a positive environment) should be able to become a parent. That simple.

(Before anyone asks - child abusers or fosters and such with histories of child abuse/neglect are included as violent criminals.)

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Less available parents in the adoption system because "muh morals". Idiocy.
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Postby USS Monitor » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:56 am

Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.


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Even if you think homosexuals shouldn't adopt, there are definitely less offensive ways to explain that.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:10 am

San Lumen wrote:
Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:
On the surface, he might have "turned out fine". You can not look into their brain and see the subtle psychic disorders they are suffering from due to a traumatizing childhood. Being different (or having a different family form) is always traumatizing.


Hes not suffering from any mental disorder. How dare you suggest he had traumatizing childhood. There is absolutely no proof of any harm to the child from having gay parents

Actually, recent research suggests the opposite.

A longitudinal study, published just this month, has been running for 32 years and has found that 25 year olds raised by lesbian parents do just as well in numerous areas, including mental health, as those raised by heterosexual parents.

From the full press release:

The study focused on mental health because the peak incidence of many psychiatric disorders occurs during young adulthood. The researchers matched the 77 adult offspring in the NLLFS with a population-based sample of 77 adults of comparable age, sex, race/ethnicity and education to examine any disparities in their mental health.

The researchers specifically assessed adaptive functioning, the presence of behavioral or emotional problems, scores on the mental health diagnostic scales, and percentages of scores in the borderline or clinical range. Results showed no significant difference between the two groups for any of the measures.

“These findings demonstrate that claims that it is harmful for children to be raised by same-sex couples are completely unfounded,” said co-author Henny Bos, Ph.D., Professor of Child Development and Education, and Endowed Chair in Sexual and Gender Diversity in Families and Youth at the University of Amsterdam. “There is no justification to restrict child custody or placement, or access to reproductive technologies, based on the parents’ sexual orientation.”


EDIT: I'm sorry. I just realised this study may have already been highlighted. In which case, I can also offer this Cornell literature review, which also had lots of positive things to say about children being raised in same-sex families.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:20 pm

RiderSyl wrote:Less available parents in the adoption system because "muh morals". Idiocy.


Except it's more available parents in the adoption system because they have a friendly agency to work through.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:11 pm

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RiderSyl wrote:Less available parents in the adoption system because "muh morals". Idiocy.


Except it's more available parents in the adoption system because they have a friendly agency to work through.

Friendly unless they assume you'll rape adopted children with buttsecks and turn them into homozombies.
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Except it's more available parents in the adoption system because they have a friendly agency to work through.

Friendly unless they assume you'll rape adopted children with buttsecks and turn them into homozombies.


Well, if you're planning to adopt Gauth, perhaps a different agency would be in order.
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Postby New Greater Netherlands » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:42 pm

Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.



I agree with you, Because God actually made the man to fall in love with women and woman fall in love with men. So I also think homosexual couples shouldn't adopt and have children
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Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.



I agree with you, Because God actually made the man to fall in love with women and woman fall in love with men. So I also think homosexual couples shouldn't adopt and have children


I do not follow your logic. Besides, religion has no bearing on the laws of the United States.
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Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.



I agree with you, Because God actually made the man to fall in love with women and woman fall in love with men. So I also think homosexual couples shouldn't adopt and have children

But children need parents and there's already not enough people who are prepared to adopt.
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I agree with you, Because God actually made the man to fall in love with women and woman fall in love with men. So I also think homosexual couples shouldn't adopt and have children


I do not follow your logic. Besides, religion has no bearing on the laws of the United States.


Not yet :^)
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The federal government has no business in LGBT adoption. Or marriage

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I do not follow your logic. Besides, religion has no bearing on the laws of the United States.


Not yet :^)


So when are you moving to repeal the First Amendment?
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Arlenton wrote:The federal government has no business in LGBT adoption. Or marriage


So it's OK to treat people as subhuman so long as it's the states doing it?
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