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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
334
36%
Eastern Orthodox
85
9%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, etc.)
6
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
57
6%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
96
10%
Methodist
16
2%
Baptist
95
10%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, Charismatic, etc.)
72
8%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
37
4%
Other Christian
137
15%
 
Total votes : 935
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:39 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Pretty good sentiment to live by I think

Does it apply to just Christians, or the whole of peaceful, law-abiding humanity?


It applies to the non-law abiding humanity as well.
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Greater Cesnica
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:40 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Does it apply to just Christians, or the whole of peaceful, law-abiding humanity?


It applies to the non-law abiding humanity as well.

Nice!
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:41 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:What is CDT's opinion on 'love thy neighbor'?

Seems to be a unanimous viewpoint here, as something to strive for even if we don't always hold to it.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:42 pm

Rn I'm very spiritually confused. So... yeah.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.
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Postby Nordengrund » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:55 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
We don’t follow ancient Israelite civil law or Jewish law, in general, but we still follow the moral law, and pre-Mosaic law.


This law would be safely under the abolished portion



Abrahamic law, yes, although I forgot about that, and I had Noahic law in mind.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:56 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:Rn I'm very spiritually confused. So... yeah.

That's natural. Where does your confusion stem from?
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:59 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Rn I'm very spiritually confused. So... yeah.

That's natural. Where does your confusion stem from?

I was born Muslim, drifted away, drifting towards the Ahmadiyya sect, but rn enamored by Catholicism, which has elements found in the Ahmadiyya sect too (Messiah), been dating a bi girl for 6 years and both Islam and Christianity scare her, some intimate stuff I don't want to discuss in this thread... you get the idea.
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:08 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:That's natural. Where does your confusion stem from?

I was born Muslim, drifted away, drifting towards the Ahmadiyya sect, but rn enamored by Catholicism, which has elements found in the Ahmadiyya sect too (Messiah), been dating a bi girl for 6 years and both Islam and Christianity scare her, some intimate stuff I don't want to discuss in this thread... you get the idea.


I converted to Catholicism after extensive study. I’ve worn every hat of Protestant, and I have a college degree in Religious Studies. Of all the religions I’ve studied only Apostolic Chrisrianity, actually possesses a theology that transcends petty cultism. In my professional opinion
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Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:11 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:That's natural. Where does your confusion stem from?

I was born Muslim, drifted away, drifting towards the Ahmadiyya sect, but rn enamored by Catholicism, which has elements found in the Ahmadiyya sect too (Messiah), been dating a bi girl for 6 years and both Islam and Christianity scare her, some intimate stuff I don't want to discuss in this thread... you get the idea.

I was born Baptist, so I can relate, albeit in a limited way. Whether your girlfriend is frightened by Islam or Christianity, set a positive example for her. Many people are scared off by those who misuse religion.
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Postby Hakons » Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:58 pm

Ragnarheim wrote:
Negarakita wrote:I'm sorry, I already do enough roleplaying on this website to go larping around in real life


Keen on a bit of fiction if you're into Christianity, then.


>pro pillaging
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Negarakita
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Postby Negarakita » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:00 pm

Hakons wrote:
Ragnarheim wrote:
Keen on a bit of fiction if you're into Christianity, then.


>pro pillaging

You don't know, he could be on some serious gang h*ck
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Salus Maior
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:02 pm

Ragnarheim wrote:
Negarakita wrote:Ok so having been kinda scared away from converting to Islam by Amin's latest "Slavery is good because Islam" tirade, I guess I should come here. Is there any branch of Christianity which offers that same relationship with God? Things like dhikr, the hajj, those sorts of things? I feel as though Eastern Orthodoxy is closest to what I want, but Catholicism looks good too. Especially as I do latin.


No. It's all bollocks. Follow Odin.


Odin is lame. He didn't even do anything when the Catholics destroyed all his sacred sites and all his followers converted.

What a weak and effete god.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:18 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Ragnarheim wrote:
No. It's all bollocks. Follow Odin.


Odin is lame. He didn't even do anything when the Catholics destroyed all his sacred sites and all his followers converted.

What a weak and effete god.


Ah, poor Mr. Wednesday.

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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby NPCA » Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:57 am

Baptist.
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:00 pm

Negarakita wrote:
Hakons wrote:
>pro pillaging

You don't know, he could be on some serious gang h*ck

But does he come from the land of the ice and snow, with the midnight sun and the hot springs flow?
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Negarakita
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Postby Negarakita » Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:31 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Negarakita wrote:You don't know, he could be on some serious gang h*ck

But does he come from the land of the ice and snow, with the midnight sun and the hot springs flow?

Not sure. Im guessing thats a missed reference
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The Archregimancy
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Postby The Archregimancy » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:01 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Negarakita wrote:You don't know, he could be on some serious gang h*ck

But does he come from the land of the ice and snow, with the midnight sun and the hot springs flow?


The Varangian Guard do.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:18 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:That's natural. Where does your confusion stem from?

I was born Muslim, drifted away, drifting towards the Ahmadiyya sect, but rn enamored by Catholicism, which has elements found in the Ahmadiyya sect too (Messiah), been dating a bi girl for 6 years and both Islam and Christianity scare her, some intimate stuff I don't want to discuss in this thread... you get the idea.

Lutheran and Anglican churches often are more supportive of gender equality and LGBT rights compared to Roman Catholicism, and we also have many similar beliefs and liturgical practices. Also, may I ask what country you live in?
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Postby Stonok » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:58 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:I was born Muslim, drifted away, drifting towards the Ahmadiyya sect, but rn enamored by Catholicism, which has elements found in the Ahmadiyya sect too (Messiah), been dating a bi girl for 6 years and both Islam and Christianity scare her, some intimate stuff I don't want to discuss in this thread... you get the idea.

Lutheran and Anglican churches often are more supportive of gender equality and LGBT rights compared to Roman Catholicism, and we also have many similar beliefs and liturgical practices. Also, may I ask what country you live in?

The Lutheran Missouri Synod and the Continuing Anglican movement would like to disagree
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:43 pm

Stonok wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:Lutheran and Anglican churches often are more supportive of gender equality and LGBT rights compared to Roman Catholicism, and we also have many similar beliefs and liturgical practices. Also, may I ask what country you live in?

The Lutheran Missouri Synod and the Continuing Anglican movement would like to disagree

Nevermind the Lutheran Wisconsin synod, the African churches of the Anglican communion...
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:38 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:I was born Muslim, drifted away, drifting towards the Ahmadiyya sect, but rn enamored by Catholicism, which has elements found in the Ahmadiyya sect too (Messiah), been dating a bi girl for 6 years and both Islam and Christianity scare her, some intimate stuff I don't want to discuss in this thread... you get the idea.

Lutheran and Anglican churches often are more supportive of gender equality and LGBT rights compared to Roman Catholicism, and we also have many similar beliefs and liturgical practices. Also, may I ask what country you live in?

Better to choose a branch that adheres to scripture, rather than resort to cherry-picking.
Which leaves us with Orthodox and Catholicism.
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Postby Maineiacs » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:37 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
Luminesa wrote:But does he come from the land of the ice and snow, with the midnight sun and the hot springs flow?


The Varangian Guard do.

How soft your fields so green can whisper tales of gore; of how we calmed the tides of war - we are your overlords.



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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:49 pm

https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2018/10/45846/ Pretty good article on the issues with the Catholic "Youth Synod".
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Postby Diopolis » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:59 pm

Salus Maior wrote:https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2018/10/45846/ Pretty good article on the issues with the Catholic "Youth Synod".

Eye of the Tiber had a better response.
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