Would you give your kids to Trump?

[The Alma Mater]

*shrug*. The US voters have decided he is the most qualified person in the country to make important moral decisions, like "who do we declare war on", "which families do we break apart", "what coat do we wear when visiting people in need", "where do we build great big walls" etc. etc.

If he is the embodiment of morality of the most powerful country on the planet - who are we to call him unworthy ?

He's the president, not the pope. He's nobody's "embodiment of morality."

Reality disagrees. Since he became president it has e.g. become far more socially acceptable to treat women like dirt.
Because if the prez does it, so can Joe.

And again: we are talking about the man who decides on war, immigration, if people with brown skin are bad, if drugs are fine or not etc. etc.
He IS the master of morality.
MAGA.

[Olthar]

He's the president, not the pope. He's nobody's "embodiment of morality." And the entire point of the First Amendment is to give us the right to insult the president without fear of retribution. We weren't founded to bow on our knees before unquestionable leaders. In fact, we specifically rebelled against that sort of thing. Go back to Britain if you don't like people bitching about leaders.

I mean, shit, even in Britain, they've moved past the ego fellation of the monarchs.

"God save the Queen, she's not a human being" didn't come from an American band, after all.

That shit only flies in hellholes like North Korea (or Russia...)

...Stop ruining my gag. D:

He's the president, not the pope. He's nobody's "embodiment of morality."

Reality disagrees. Since he became president it has e.g. become far more socially acceptable to treat women like dirt.
Because if the prez does it, so can Joe.

And again: we are talking about the man who decides on war, immigration, if people with brown skin are bad, if drugs are fine or not etc. etc.
He IS the master of morality.
MAGA.

"Morality"
You seem to have a very skewed perception of that word.

[Infected Mushroom]

Lolno, that's just... just beyond stupid. By all measurable and immeasurable quantities.

He’s rich as a Lannister

l m a o

I believe that after a great deal of deliberation, I would be forced to conclude that giving to Trump is the way to go.

Love means giving the kid d the best shot they have to be “successful” in life. And sometimes, that means going with different parents.

I mean think about it. He’s a president, he’s rich as a Lannister, he’s got allies everywhere. The kid will go to very high places with him. I must let go.

I'm certain your kid would experience no moral, social, or even political repercussions from such a hilariously stupid decision whatsoever.

If he’s raised by a loving father, one with tons of money and influence, I don’t see why he wouldn’t be better off

[Torrocca]

Lolno, that's just... just beyond stupid. By all measurable and immeasurable quantities.



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I'm certain your kid would experience no moral, social, or even political repercussions from such a hilariously stupid decision whatsoever.

If he’s raised by a loving father, one with tons of money and influence, I don’t see why he wouldn’t be better off

>Trump
>loving

hold on while i laugh my way out of this thread

[Infected Mushroom]

If he’s raised by a loving father, one with tons of money and influence, I don’t see why he wouldn’t be better off

>Trump
>loving

hold on while i laugh my way out of this thread

Says in the op

It’s an operational premise, you gotta run with it

I find it hilarious too that many posters on this forum could parent at all but I don’t make a loud show out of it

[Dumb Ideologies]

If I had kids I'd happily dropkick the sprog straight through a White House window.

[Torrocca]

>Trump
>loving

hold on while i laugh my way out of this thread

Says in the op

It’s an operational premise, you gotta run with it

I find it hilarious too that many posters on this forum could parent at all but I don’t make a loud show out of it

Irregardless I'd sooner burn up in a fire.

[Infected Mushroom]

Says in the op

It’s an operational premise, you gotta run with it

I find it hilarious too that many posters on this forum could parent at all but I don’t make a loud show out of it

Irregardless I'd sooner burn up in a fire.

So because you don’t like trump; you’re going to give your kid a less grand existence? That doesn’t sound very loving.

[Infected Mushroom]

If I had kids I'd happily dropkick the sprog straight through a White House window.

Just give to trump then

Win win

[Purgatio]

"Giving" my kid to Trump? Uhh no, definitely not, if that means reliquishing any and all parental responsibilities and rights. But if there was a way to make Trump a 'godfather' or something, with him providing some financial support or funding for higher education, or getting him or her internships and other opportunities, then of course it would be stupid not to grasp those opportunities for your children. But "giving" your children to someone else is out of the question (unless you cannot afford to take care of them and have no choice but to give up for adoption), your kid is going to grow up with the thought that their own parent didn't want them, think about the impact of that on their psychological well-being and self-esteem

[Infected Mushroom]

"Giving" my kid to Trump? Uhh no, definitely not, if that means reliquishing any and all parental responsibilities and rights. But if there was a way to make Trump a 'godfather' or something, with him providing some financial support or funding for higher education, or getting him or her internships and other opportunities, then of course it would be stupid not to grasp those opportunities for your children. But "giving" your children to someone else is out of the question (unless you cannot afford to take care of them and have no choice but to give up for adoption), your kid is going to grow up with the thought that their own parent didn't want them, think about the impact of that on their psychological well-being and self-esteem

Far outweighed by the power of Trump’s god like resources (top schools, top line contacts, more gold then you can spend in a lifetime)

[Torrocca]

Irregardless I'd sooner burn up in a fire.

So because you don’t like trump; you’re going to give your kid a less grand existence? That doesn’t sound very loving.

Grandeur's not my thing.

[Purgatio]

"Giving" my kid to Trump? Uhh no, definitely not, if that means reliquishing any and all parental responsibilities and rights. But if there was a way to make Trump a 'godfather' or something, with him providing some financial support or funding for higher education, or getting him or her internships and other opportunities, then of course it would be stupid not to grasp those opportunities for your children. But "giving" your children to someone else is out of the question (unless you cannot afford to take care of them and have no choice but to give up for adoption), your kid is going to grow up with the thought that their own parent didn't want them, think about the impact of that on their psychological well-being and self-esteem

Far outweighed by the power of Trump’s god like resources (top schools, top line contacts, more gold then you can spend in a lifetime)

I think that argument is very strong if you come from a middle-class or low-income household, where it is difficult to afford the basic things needed to succeed in America (higher education tuition fees, access to internships, top jobs etc), but if you come from an upper-middle-income or high-income family (ie lawyer, doctor, banker, accountants etc) I think the benefit of becoming ultra-rich like Trump is marginal at best in terms of your ability to succeed in life, and far outweighed by the psychological and emotional trauma of knowing your family gave you up to someone else

[Valentine Z]

You can't give your kids to Trump if you are not going to have kids in the first place.

[Infected Mushroom]

So because you don’t like trump; you’re going to give your kid a less grand existence? That doesn’t sound very loving.

Grandeur's not my thing.

A good parent should want their kids to start as high up socially as possible. It is what is in their best interest.

Anything else smacks of: “I didn’t get to have it when I was a child so you (my child) won’t get it either”

[Torrocca]

Grandeur's not my thing.

A good parent should want their kids to start as high up socially as possible. It is what is on their best interest.

Anything else smacks of: “I didn’t get to have it when I was a child so you (my child) won’t get it either”

A good parent wouldn't give their kid away to some random jackwagon just because they want to be a good parent and happen to be higher up on the socioeconomic ladder.

[Infected Mushroom]

Far outweighed by the power of Trump’s god like resources (top schools, top line contacts, more gold then you can spend in a lifetime)

I think that argument is very strong if you come from a middle-class or low-income household, where it is difficult to afford the basic things needed to succeed in America (higher education tuition fees, access to internships, top jobs etc), but if you come from an upper-middle-income or high-income family (ie lawyer, doctor, banker, accountants etc) I think the benefit of becoming ultra-rich like Trump is marginal at best in terms of your ability to succeed in life, and far outweighed by the psychological and emotional trauma of knowing your family gave you up to someone else

Hmmmm... you may be on to something

[Infected Mushroom]

A good parent should want their kids to start as high up socially as possible. It is what is on their best interest.

Anything else smacks of: “I didn’t get to have it when I was a child so you (my child) won’t get it either”

A good parent wouldn't give their kid away to some random jackwagon just because they want to be a good parent and happen to be higher up on the socioeconomic ladder.

They should based on the premises in the op

In most real life situations, no

But assuming the op starting conditions are met, they should

[Torrocca]

A good parent wouldn't give their kid away to some random jackwagon just because they want to be a good parent and happen to be higher up on the socioeconomic ladder.

They should based on the premises in the op

In most real life situations, no

But assuming the op starting conditions are met, they should

"Welp, sorry little Johnny; now we know you've had a nice, long seven years with us here as your kid, but since Trump's become president and made it legal to ask parents to hand over their children to him, we're gonna have to let you go."

"... Where's mommy?"

"Ohoho, Johnny you card you! *sniff* I'm gonna miss you, kiddo. Go on, now, be free and rich. This totally won't fuck you over mentally or socially or in any other way whatsoever, kiddo."

[Infected Mushroom]

They should based on the premises in the op

In most real life situations, no

But assuming the op starting conditions are met, they should

"Welp, sorry little Johnny; now we know you've had a nice, long seven years with us here as your kid, but since Trump's become president and made it legal to ask parents to hand over their children to him, we're gonna have to let you go."

"... Where's mommy?"

"Ohoho, Johnny you card you! *sniff* I'm gonna miss you, kiddo. Go on, now, be free and rich. This totally won't fuck you over mentally or socially or in any other way whatsoever, kiddo."

Where does it say the kid is seven?

No this is a newborn infant

[Torrocca]

"Welp, sorry little Johnny; now we know you've had a nice, long seven years with us here as your kid, but since Trump's become president and made it legal to ask parents to hand over their children to him, we're gonna have to let you go."

"... Where's mommy?"

"Ohoho, Johnny you card you! *sniff* I'm gonna miss you, kiddo. Go on, now, be free and rich. This totally won't fuck you over mentally or socially or in any other way whatsoever, kiddo."

Where does it say the kid is seven?

No this is a newborn infant

I'm going off the title; the age was thus a random pick. :^)

[Grenartia]

I mean, shit, even in Britain, they've moved past the ego fellation of the monarchs.

"God save the Queen, she's not a human being" didn't come from an American band, after all.

That shit only flies in hellholes like North Korea (or Russia...)

...Stop ruining my gag. D:

Not the first time somebody has said those words to me. Of course, it was a completely different context...

[Grenartia]

Lolno, that's just... just beyond stupid. By all measurable and immeasurable quantities.



l m a o



I'm certain your kid would experience no moral, social, or even political repercussions from such a hilariously stupid decision whatsoever.

If he’s raised 1. by a loving father, 2. one with tons of money and influence, I don’t see why he wouldn’t be better off

1. Which Trump is not.

2. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Especially from an early age. Trump himself was raised by a dad with tones of money and influence, and look at the ethically bankrupt man he became.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

No. Narcissists are terrible parents.

[Purgatio]

They should based on the premises in the op

In most real life situations, no

But assuming the op starting conditions are met, they should

"Welp, sorry little Johnny; now we know you've had a nice, long seven years with us here as your kid, but since Trump's become president and made it legal to ask parents to hand over their children to him, we're gonna have to let you go."

"... Where's mommy?"

"Ohoho, Johnny you card you! *sniff* I'm gonna miss you, kiddo. Go on, now, be free and rich. This totally won't fuck you over mentally or socially or in any other way whatsoever, kiddo."

I completely agree that giving your kid away to a rich guy is going to fuck them over mentally and psychologically, because it engenders feelings that you weren't wanted even by your parents, which is why I argued earlier that if you come from an upper-middle-class household and have the financial resources to provide all the necessary platforms for your kid to be successful later in life (living in a neighbourhood with a good school, university education tuition fees, access to internships, financial support to help your kid pay for high rent in a big city or mega-city with access to good job opportunities etc), giving your kid up to Trump is a very very bad idea.

However, the sad reality is that social immobility in America means that if you cannot afford the things I listed earlier for your children, their future is pretty much fucked. You won't have the ability to succeed later in life, you will be trapped in pretty much the same socio-economic class as your parents with practically no opportunity to advance. You will have trouble finding good-paying jobs, you will have trouble living beyond paycheck to paycheck, you will have trouble paying rent or buying a house, you will have trouble having a child and raising a family and all the related expenses, and if you ever get sick you can expect to go bankrupt. Unless that's the reality you want your children to be condemned to, in the socio-economically immobile world we live in, then unless you can afford the things I listed earlier which are crucial to have even the opportunity or chance to succeed in today's modern and technologically-advanced economy, the kind thing to do is for your kid to be raised by someone who can.