Would you give your kids to Trump?

[New Axiom]

Well, I personally don’t want kids so if he paid me a handsome sum for these hypothetical rug rats, definitely.

[Nadrea]

First Families are targets of verbal abuse and occasional serious threats. Also, Donald is in his 70s and borderline obese. He’ll definitely die by the time the kid is 18. Between living a life as a first child, and having to lose a paternal figure at an early age, I don’t think giving my kid to Trump would be in his/her best interest whatsoever.

[Infected Mushroom]

So it’s about what you can/can’t have and not really about what is best for the infant?

Что?

That’s how it sounds.

I asked: “is it in the best interest of the child to have you or the President of the USA as the sole legal guardian assuming the President wants to be a good father. Consider the pros and cons for the child and choose what is best for the child (since you presumably love your child and want the best for them.”

Your response:

“I should be able keep the child. I have done nothing wrong. Child = mine mine mine.”

That’s how it comes across. Knee jerk parental possessiveness.

[Hiachijan]

I suppose if I didn’t want children, sure.

Except I’m perfectly fine with raising my own children, so I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t simply give my children to anyone, regardless of whether or not they have a higher social status. I would have to directly observe how they raise other kids beforehand.

[The Burke Islands]

That’s a little unfair to say in my opinion.

Perhaps, but I feel I have the means to give that child a good life, with a good moral upbringing. Not all kids like being in the spotlight, being the child of the POTUS automatically brings a ton of publicity. There’s also the possibility of being spoiled or naive as a result, which is never good. The president also, understandably, doesn’t have much time for family bonding, and a child of theirs could easily feel neglected by their father’s absence.

Would you (you personally) rather be spoiled and naive but have the benefit of a Trump upbringing... or instead be raised by a regular run of the mill parent who promises a good moral education?

Mmmm no, because I was raised by a regular run of the mill parent that gave me a good moral education, and I am very grateful that my father made enough to give me what I needed, not what I wanted.

[Xadufell]

Что?

That’s how it sounds.

I asked: “is it in the best interest of the child to have you or the President of the USA as the sole legal guardian assuming the President wants to be a good father. Consider the pros and cons for the child and choose what is best for the child (since you presumably love your child and want the best for them.”

Your response:

“I should be able keep the child. I have done nothing wrong. Child = mine mine mine.”

That’s how it comes across. Knee jerk parental possessiveness.

I mean, granted how I'd probably bankrupt myself if I had kids (and that is a very large "IF"), then sure. They'd probably definitely have a better life.

[Genivaria]

You know what I'll go a step further.
Not only is the answer no but I think that people like Trump should be investigated by CPS.

You probably think that about a lot of people tho.

I won't deny that honestly.

[Infected Mushroom]

Would you (you personally) rather be spoiled and naive but have the benefit of a Trump upbringing... or instead be raised by a regular run of the mill parent who promises a good moral education?

Mmmm no, because I was raised by a regular run of the mill parent that gave me a good moral education, and I am very grateful that my father made enough to give me what I needed, not what I wanted.

Or rather... that is all you could get. You didn’t get to have a powerful rich father who could open thousands of doors for you so you say to your child:

“If I didn’t get it, you won’t either.”

And then you create this super complex justification about the virtues of limited resources and firm moral discipline. The mind is truly a marvelous machine.

[The Free Joy State]

Trump may "want to be a good father", that doesn't mean he will be a good father.

If his current children "turned out OK" -- the jury's very much still out on that -- it would be because of their mothers, their nannies, their schools and not because of Donald Trump.

Donald Trump is not getting any younger, so naming him "sole guardian" seems completely foolhardy from that point of view. If my hypothetical child is a baby today, what is the chance that Donald Trump will be around when she or he is twenty-one?

Why does Donald Trump want my child? No responsible parent would turn over a child to anyone -- billionaire or not -- just because they asked. If social services want your child, they still have to give adequate reason why. And you can protest it. And appeal. It's not just "give me your baby", "ok then, see ya kiddo".

Donald Trump would raise my child to be a self-entitled brat with no thought for anyone but themselves. The world doesn't need more people like that.

Besidewhich, I love my hypothetical child and I can care for my hypothetical child and there is no practical reason to give them up.

In short: no. Fuck no.

[Deus Mercenary Leadership]

Yeah, my child may have a good life under Trump’s parenting considering all his money and assets, but I’m keeping my child. Raising my kid would be the highest reward.

[Xmara]

Money doesn’t necessarily make a good life. I would choose to raise the child myself.

[Telconi]

You probably think that about a lot of people tho.

I won't deny that honestly.

It's okay, I do too.

[Infected Mushroom]

Trump may "want to be a good father", that doesn't mean he will be a good father.

If his current children "turned out OK" -- the jury's very much still out on that -- it would be because of their mothers, their nannies, their schools and not because of Donald Trump.

Donald Trump is not getting any younger, so naming him "sole guardian" seems completely foolhardy from that point of view. If my hypothetical child is a baby today, what is the chance that Donald Trump will be around when she or he is twenty-one?

Why does Donald Trump want my child? No responsible parent would turn over a child to anyone -- billionaire or not -- just because they asked. If social services want your child, they still have to give adequate reason why. And you can protest it. And appeal. It's not just "give me your baby", "ok then, see ya kiddo".

Donald Trump would raise my child to be a self-entitled brat with no thought for anyone but themselves. The world doesn't need more people like that.

Besidewhich, I love my hypothetical child and I can care for my hypothetical child and there is no practical reason to give them up.

In short: no. Fuck no.

All valid points. However, the premise makes it very clear that Trump wants (and doesn’t merely say offhandedly) that he wants to be a good father. It is also assumed that you (in the op) are convinced of his sincerity.

Don’t ask me how (doesn’t really matter) but as far as the op goes

1. He wants to be a good father
2. You know this

Now it is true he might turn out to be a bad father despite his intentions. But how’s that different from you? You want to be a good parent, but everyone wants to be for the most part.

The difference though, is the social and economic opportunities afforded to the child. And you don’t win there.

[The Burke Islands]

Mmmm no, because I was raised by a regular run of the mill parent that gave me a good moral education, and I am very grateful that my father made enough to give me what I needed, not what I wanted.

Or rather... that is all you could get. You didn’t get to have a powerful rich father who could open thousands of doors for you so you say to your child:

“If I didn’t get it, you won’t either.”

And then you create this super complex justification about the virtues of limited resources and firm moral discipline. The mind is truly a marvelous machine.

Limited resources and firm moral discipline are virtues, they help teach children restraint, the value of managing your resources, and making the best life choices available to them.

It’s rather insulting that you believe Trump could have raised me better than my father did simply because he is a “powerful rich father”.

Being rich and powerful has nothing to do with parental skill. And no, I don’t have a “if I didn’t get it, you won’t either” attitude, if I ended up rich and powerful, I’d still teach my children these values, because I believe they are worth teaching regardless of your social status.

[Infected Mushroom]

Or rather... that is all you could get. You didn’t get to have a powerful rich father who could open thousands of doors for you so you say to your child:

“If I didn’t get it, you won’t either.”

And then you create this super complex justification about the virtues of limited resources and firm moral discipline. The mind is truly a marvelous machine.

Limited resources and firm moral discipline are virtues, they help teach children restraint, the value of managing your resources, and making the best life choices available to them.

It’s rather insulting that you believe Trump could have raised me better than my father did simply because he is a “powerful rich father”.

Being rich and powerful has nothing to do with parental skill. And no, I don’t have a “if I didn’t get it, you won’t either” attitude, if I ended up rich and powerful, I’d still teach my children these values, because I believe they are worth teaching regardless of your social status.

If trump loved you as much as your father did... then why couldn’t he have raised you better? It’s entirely very likely. You’d have far more economic and social opportunities for one thing.

Why is that hard to accept?

[Xmara]

Limited resources and firm moral discipline are virtues, they help teach children restraint, the value of managing your resources, and making the best life choices available to them.

It’s rather insulting that you believe Trump could have raised me better than my father did simply because he is a “powerful rich father”.

Being rich and powerful has nothing to do with parental skill. And no, I don’t have a “if I didn’t get it, you won’t either” attitude, if I ended up rich and powerful, I’d still teach my children these values, because I believe they are worth teaching regardless of your social status.

If trump loved you as much as your father did... then why couldn’t he have raised you better? It’s entirely very likely. You’d have far more economic and social opportunities for one thing.

Why is that hard to accept?

I don’t know how it is in your world, but I for one know that, to use a cliche, money doesn’t buy happiness.

[The Burke Islands]

Limited resources and firm moral discipline are virtues, they help teach children restraint, the value of managing your resources, and making the best life choices available to them.

It’s rather insulting that you believe Trump could have raised me better than my father did simply because he is a “powerful rich father”.

Being rich and powerful has nothing to do with parental skill. And no, I don’t have a “if I didn’t get it, you won’t either” attitude, if I ended up rich and powerful, I’d still teach my children these values, because I believe they are worth teaching regardless of your social status.

If trump loved you as much as your father did... then why couldn’t he have raised you better? It’s entirely very likely. You’d have far more economic and social opportunities for one thing.

Why is that hard to accept?

Because Trump’s moral code isn’t the same as my father’s. Simply having more economic and social opportunities wouldn’t have made me the man I am today, furthermore, having more opportunities for me doesn’t make him a good father, it may make him a good caretaker, but that says nothing about him being a good father.

[Lesser Compline]

Well, considering how many billions of people had parents who didn't have anywhere near the financial resources or economic/political power of Donald Trump but still turned out fine, I would maybe say these aren't the best criteria for judging someone's ability to raise a child. And look at Trump, he's mocked the physically disabled and bragged about his ability to sexually harass any woman he wants so it's not really that difficult to say you wouldn't want such a despicable person raising your kids no matter how much money he has in the bank.

[Infected Mushroom]

If trump loved you as much as your father did... then why couldn’t he have raised you better? It’s entirely very likely. You’d have far more economic and social opportunities for one thing.

Why is that hard to accept?

I don’t know how it is in your world, but I for one know that, to use a cliche, money doesn’t buy happiness.

But it buys good schools, robust healthcare (in the USA), protection, big house... lots of networked allies for jobs and opportunities, gov contacts...

Can you honestly say a child is better off without those things just so that you can be a parent?

[Infected Mushroom]

Well, considering how many billions of people had parents who didn't have anywhere near the financial resources or economic/political power of Donald Trump but still turned out fine, I would maybe say these aren't the best criteria for judging someone's ability to raise a child. And look at Trump, he's mocked the physically disabled and bragged about his ability to sexually harass any woman he wants so it's not really that difficult to say you wouldn't want such a despicable person raising your kids no matter how much money he has in the bank.

Why would you want your kid to turn out “fine” when they can be so much more?

Fine is working to pay back mortgages. Fine is living 5-6 days a week in some dead end office job. Fine is getting married to some Skyler White. Fine is not even making a single foot note in a single history book.

Would you rather be “fine” or someone actually important?

[Genivaria]

Well, considering how many billions of people had parents who didn't have anywhere near the financial resources or economic/political power of Donald Trump but still turned out fine, I would maybe say these aren't the best criteria for judging someone's ability to raise a child. And look at Trump, he's mocked the physically disabled and bragged about his ability to sexually harass any woman he wants so it's not really that difficult to say you wouldn't want such a despicable person raising your kids no matter how much money he has in the bank.

Why would you want your kid to turn our “fine” when they can be so much more?

Would you rather be “fine” or someone actually important?

I really don't know why you think that wealth is somehow the best factor for raising children.

[Infected Mushroom]

Why would you want your kid to turn our “fine” when they can be so much more?

Would you rather be “fine” or someone actually important?

I really don't know why you think that wealth is somehow the best factor for raising children.

I really don’t know why you think that when 2 people have the same equal intention to be a good parent... that the fact that one party has infinitely more resources is irrelevant.

Clearly, you don’t have the child’s best interest at heart.

[Idiocarasia]

yes

[Genivaria]

I really don't know why you think that wealth is somehow the best factor for raising children.

I really don’t know why you think that when 2 people have the same equal intention to be a good parent... that the fact that one party has infinitely more resources is irrelevant.

Clearly, you don’t have the child’s best interest at heart.

Bullshit.
Complete and utter bullshit.

[Big Jim P]

Give? No. Sell? Maybe.