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Postby Bienenhalde » Thu May 03, 2018 5:12 pm

Geneviev wrote:I cry.

Dear Mr. President,
I am a good American citizen. I have never done anything illegal. I attend school and have ambitions to serve my country as a forensic psychologist. I was raised in a conservative Christian family. I am exactly the perfect definition of a good American. The only exception to this is my gender, which I can not help. Christians like yourself often assume that it not only is something I can change, but something I should change. They seem to feel justified in citing religion as a reason to not associate with me and not help me. Laws and executive orders and any action from the government that confirm the idea that religion is more important than humanity only make this problem worse.

My hope for this country is that it will eventually be able to reconcile freedom of religion as it was first intended to be applied with the modern conservative Christian view of it. Mr. President, freedom of religion means that the government does not get involved in religion.


Don't call President Trump a Christian. He is a fake Christian. Also, would you really want to force some conservative Christian doctor to perform your sex change operation? That does not sound like a good idea to me.

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Postby Geneviev » Thu May 03, 2018 5:13 pm

Valgora wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
One of his cabinet members has said as much, yes.

Also, forgot to mention, Trump pulled out of the Paris Accords and wanted to pull funding from PBS and NPR both of which do a great job of having some free science-y resources.

He also wanted to - don't know if it happened - to pull funding from an after school program that gave children a place to do stuff and such while their parent(s) were still working.

Oh my hecking gosh.

If he does that, I'll make more money babysitting and my grades will go down exponentially. But hey, creating jobs. :eyebrow:
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Postby Valrifell » Thu May 03, 2018 5:14 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Valgora wrote:He also wanted to - don't know if it happened - to pull funding from an after school program that gave children a place to do stuff and such while their parent(s) were still working.

Oh my hecking gosh.

If he does that, I'll make more money babysitting and my grades will go down exponentially. But hey, creating jobs. :eyebrow:


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Postby Valgora » Thu May 03, 2018 5:14 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I cry.

Dear Mr. President,
I am a good American citizen. I have never done anything illegal. I attend school and have ambitions to serve my country as a forensic psychologist. I was raised in a conservative Christian family. I am exactly the perfect definition of a good American. The only exception to this is my gender, which I can not help. Christians like yourself often assume that it not only is something I can change, but something I should change. They seem to feel justified in citing religion as a reason to not associate with me and not help me. Laws and executive orders and any action from the government that confirm the idea that religion is more important than humanity only make this problem worse.

My hope for this country is that it will eventually be able to reconcile freedom of religion as it was first intended to be applied with the modern conservative Christian view of it. Mr. President, freedom of religion means that the government does not get involved in religion.


Don't call President Trump a Christian. He is a fake Christian. Also, would you really want to force some conservative Christian doctor to perform your sex change operation? That does not sound like a good idea to me.

A doctor should not be allowed to reject patients just because he doesn't like them because he's conservative.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu May 03, 2018 5:15 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I cry.

Dear Mr. President,
I am a good American citizen. I have never done anything illegal. I attend school and have ambitions to serve my country as a forensic psychologist. I was raised in a conservative Christian family. I am exactly the perfect definition of a good American. The only exception to this is my gender, which I can not help. Christians like yourself often assume that it not only is something I can change, but something I should change. They seem to feel justified in citing religion as a reason to not associate with me and not help me. Laws and executive orders and any action from the government that confirm the idea that religion is more important than humanity only make this problem worse.

My hope for this country is that it will eventually be able to reconcile freedom of religion as it was first intended to be applied with the modern conservative Christian view of it. Mr. President, freedom of religion means that the government does not get involved in religion.


Don't call President Trump a Christian. He is a fake Christian. Also, would you really want to force some conservative Christian doctor to perform your sex change operation? That does not sound like a good idea to me.


If he acts, walks and quacks like a duck.. Christians can't disassociate themselves from Trump saying he's not really a Christian when he enacts everything they want.
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Postby Geneviev » Thu May 03, 2018 5:17 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I cry.

Dear Mr. President,
I am a good American citizen. I have never done anything illegal. I attend school and have ambitions to serve my country as a forensic psychologist. I was raised in a conservative Christian family. I am exactly the perfect definition of a good American. The only exception to this is my gender, which I can not help. Christians like yourself often assume that it not only is something I can change, but something I should change. They seem to feel justified in citing religion as a reason to not associate with me and not help me. Laws and executive orders and any action from the government that confirm the idea that religion is more important than humanity only make this problem worse.

My hope for this country is that it will eventually be able to reconcile freedom of religion as it was first intended to be applied with the modern conservative Christian view of it. Mr. President, freedom of religion means that the government does not get involved in religion.


Don't call President Trump a Christian. He is a fake Christian. Also, would you really want to force some conservative Christian doctor to perform your sex change operation? That does not sound like a good idea to me.

Oh, no, that would be supremely stupid. Who knows what this doctor would hypothetically do? I would just like to be able to walk into a Starbucks with my friends instead of standing outside and waiting for them because of the risk of conservative and somewhat extreme Christians being in there.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu May 03, 2018 5:21 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I cry.

Dear Mr. President,
I am a good American citizen. I have never done anything illegal. I attend school and have ambitions to serve my country as a forensic psychologist. I was raised in a conservative Christian family. I am exactly the perfect definition of a good American. The only exception to this is my gender, which I can not help. Christians like yourself often assume that it not only is something I can change, but something I should change. They seem to feel justified in citing religion as a reason to not associate with me and not help me. Laws and executive orders and any action from the government that confirm the idea that religion is more important than humanity only make this problem worse.

My hope for this country is that it will eventually be able to reconcile freedom of religion as it was first intended to be applied with the modern conservative Christian view of it. Mr. President, freedom of religion means that the government does not get involved in religion.


Don't call President Trump a Christian. He is a fake Christian. Also, would you really want to force some conservative Christian doctor to perform your sex change operation? That does not sound like a good idea to me.


Whereas Trump thinks healthcare providers should be allowed to refuse any to give sort of treatment to someone purely on the basis of the Doctor's personal morals.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu May 03, 2018 5:21 pm

I do hope Trump reposts his photo enjoying the very best tacos in the world made in the Trump Tower Grill for Cinco de Mayo this year.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu May 03, 2018 5:22 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Trump is all for the kind of science that makes him look good, I haven't heard anything about the subject but I'm pretty sure he wanted another manned moon mission.

Also, friendly reminder that Trump has also:

  • Issued a gag order on government departments so they can't use the words "climate change" in any official capacity
  • Scrubbed the term "climate change" or anything alluding to it off the White House website
  • Put Scott Pruitt and Betsy DeVos in important positions they have no business being in
  • Cut the effective budget of NASA (or proposed one)
  • Reduced the amount of money going into scientific grants

Just, you know, in case you forgot how much Trump has cut and apparently actively hates science. No wonder the March for Science is the 4th largest protest in US history.

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NASA is one of the only good things about the government besides the National Parks Service
which he probably also wants to get rid of....

Yellowstone is wasted as a park when all those trees can be cut down and all those minerals mined!
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Postby Albrenia » Thu May 03, 2018 5:23 pm

The religious lobbies will still eat this up, since they don't really care about morality, it seems.

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Postby Geneviev » Thu May 03, 2018 5:24 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
Don't call President Trump a Christian. He is a fake Christian. Also, would you really want to force some conservative Christian doctor to perform your sex change operation? That does not sound like a good idea to me.


If he acts, walks and quacks like a duck.. Christians can't disassociate themselves from Trump saying he's not really a Christian when he enacts everything they want.

I agree. Trump is a Christian. I disagree with him on the basis of what the Bible says, but that still does not make him any less Christian. It just means that I disagree with him. And a lot of Christians don't disagree with him.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Thu May 03, 2018 5:28 pm

Bombadil wrote:If he acts, walks and quacks like a duck.. Christians can't disassociate themselves from Trump saying he's not really a Christian when he enacts everything they want.


But he does not "walk and quack like a duck". He lives a very depraved immoral lifestyle and many of his policies have been opposed by Christian leaders.

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Postby New Emeline » Thu May 03, 2018 5:32 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Bombadil wrote:If he acts, walks and quacks like a duck.. Christians can't disassociate themselves from Trump saying he's not really a Christian when he enacts everything they want.


But he does not "walk and quack like a duck". He lives a very depraved immoral lifestyle and many of his policies have been opposed by Christian leaders.

and many others support him

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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 03, 2018 5:34 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
This actually makes me want to vomit.

I actually did.

Consult a medical professional.


Bienenhalde wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I cry.

Dear Mr. President,
I am a good American citizen. I have never done anything illegal. I attend school and have ambitions to serve my country as a forensic psychologist. I was raised in a conservative Christian family. I am exactly the perfect definition of a good American. The only exception to this is my gender, which I can not help. Christians like yourself often assume that it not only is something I can change, but something I should change. They seem to feel justified in citing religion as a reason to not associate with me and not help me. Laws and executive orders and any action from the government that confirm the idea that religion is more important than humanity only make this problem worse.

My hope for this country is that it will eventually be able to reconcile freedom of religion as it was first intended to be applied with the modern conservative Christian view of it. Mr. President, freedom of religion means that the government does not get involved in religion.


Don't call President Trump a Christian. He is a fake Christian. Also, would you really want to force some conservative Christian doctor to perform your sex change operation? That does not sound like a good idea to me.

Trump might be an atheist, but might also be into that, wotsname, prosperity theology? The thing where if you're rich it means God loves you.


Petrasylvania wrote:
New Emeline wrote:god fucking dammit
NASA is one of the only good things about the government besides the National Parks Service
which he probably also wants to get rid of....

Yellowstone is wasted as a park when all those trees can be cut down and all those minerals mined!

I've heard that there's a proposal to tap the Yellowstone volcano both for generating geothermal power and to prevent it from erupting and killing us all. No one will support it, though, because it would take hundreds of years to actually prevent Yellowstone from erupting and killing us all. And, you know. Geothermal power isn't manly.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu May 03, 2018 5:37 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Bombadil wrote:If he acts, walks and quacks like a duck.. Christians can't disassociate themselves from Trump saying he's not really a Christian when he enacts everything they want.


But he does not "walk and quack like a duck". He lives a very depraved immoral lifestyle and many of his policies have been opposed by Christian leaders.


In terms of his political agenda he does, and he has unwavering support among Christian voters.. I really don't see Christian leaders speaking out against Trump that much.. I mean given his lifestyle they should be at the forefront of outcry as keepers of the moral spirit of America but they're not.

Capitalist religion in America has been roundly exposed for the utter degeneracy and moral bankruptcy of its profession.
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Postby Geneviev » Thu May 03, 2018 5:38 pm

Ifreann wrote:Consult a medical professional.

Working on it. I hear there's therapists out there with training in handling Presidential Traumatic Stress Disorder.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu May 03, 2018 5:38 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Yellowstone is wasted as a park when all those trees can be cut down and all those minerals mined!

I've heard that there's a proposal to tap the Yellowstone volcano both for generating geothermal power and to prevent it from erupting and killing us all. No one will support it, though, because it would take hundreds of years to actually prevent Yellowstone from erupting and killing us all. And, you know. Geothermal power isn't manly.

But it is dwarfly. Especially if there's lava and magma involved.
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Postby Albrenia » Thu May 03, 2018 5:42 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
But he does not "walk and quack like a duck". He lives a very depraved immoral lifestyle and many of his policies have been opposed by Christian leaders.


In terms of his political agenda he does, and he has unwavering support among Christian voters.. I really don't see Christian leaders speaking out against Trump that much.. I mean given his lifestyle they should be at the forefront of outcry as keepers of the moral spirit of America but they're not.

Capitalist religion in America has been roundly exposed for the utter degeneracy and moral bankruptcy of its profession.


Yeah, the religious right sold out to Trump it seems. Not surprising though, considering.

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Postby Bombadil » Thu May 03, 2018 5:42 pm

Ifreann wrote:Trump might be an atheist, but might also be into that, wotsname, prosperity theology? The thing where if you're rich it means God loves you.


Isn't it more that if you give money to the Church then God will reward you tenfold. I mean what a fucking con. Telling poor people that if they send money to a multimillionaire then they'll be rewarded.

Sickening really, I don't get how it isn't stamped on heavily as outright fraud. It's worse than Trump University.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 03, 2018 6:06 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Trump might be an atheist, but might also be into that, wotsname, prosperity theology? The thing where if you're rich it means God loves you.


Isn't it more that if you give money to the Church then God will reward you tenfold. I mean what a fucking con. Telling poor people that if they send money to a multimillionaire then they'll be rewarded.

Sickening really, I don't get how it isn't stamped on heavily as outright fraud. It's worse than Trump University.

Because religious freedom, obvs.
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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Thu May 03, 2018 6:31 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Consult a medical professional.

Working on it. I hear there's therapists out there with training in handling Presidential Traumatic Stress Disorder.


Ah, still PTSD but not PTSD.
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Postby Geneviev » Thu May 03, 2018 6:41 pm

The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Working on it. I hear there's therapists out there with training in handling Presidential Traumatic Stress Disorder.


Ah, still PTSD but not PTSD.

I got it wrong. It's actually Post-Trump Stress Disorder. Honestly, I think it's a real problem.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu May 03, 2018 7:29 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
Don't call President Trump a Christian. He is a fake Christian. Also, would you really want to force some conservative Christian doctor to perform your sex change operation? That does not sound like a good idea to me.


Whereas Trump thinks healthcare providers should be allowed to refuse any to give sort of treatment to someone purely on the basis of the Doctor's personal morals.

Yes, healthcare providers do have that right. Beyond that I'm thrilled to see continued inroads of defunding and privatization.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu May 03, 2018 7:33 pm

Geneviev wrote:
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Ah, still PTSD but not PTSD.

I got it wrong. It's actually Post-Trump Stress Disorder. Honestly, I think it's a real problem.


Now that's just silly.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu May 03, 2018 7:33 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Whereas Trump thinks healthcare providers should be allowed to refuse any to give sort of treatment to someone purely on the basis of the Doctor's personal morals.

Yes, healthcare providers do have that right. Beyond that I'm thrilled to see continued inroads of defunding and privatization.

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